Re: Pangeya is missing
 

lol, i'm so glad you feel qualified to speak for him. however, the truth is that the original victory alliance was between him and me. He left to side w/ you in order to keep the game more balanced, since none of us, besides you, thinks victory alliances mean much.

Anyways, as we've said many times: there is no allied victory w/ me and quant any more, so you have no leg to stand on. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

malt isn't that interested in continuing because he's basically out of the game. He's been begging to be taken out for turns http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

as to izaqyos, i'm not sure what his current position is. certainly i don't trust you to provide it.

Frankly Storm, your prevarications and confabulations border on the pathological.

There is no more tentative agreement for an allied victory in order to avoid a tedious endgame. That is finished. So play your move - and if you feel incapable of it, at least make the attempt to find a sub. Otherwise you are just a little ****.

Throne of Heavens
 

Quantum, you have not addressed any points of *my* letter, after I addressed all points made in *your* original letter. If you think you can ignore your opponents arguments but they must reply to yours, I suggest you think again. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif


Of course the dimplomacy is important part of Dom2 game. But it has nothing to do with "allied victory" that archae offered to you and you accepted. That changed the nature of the game from FFA to "team game", and you know it. I never done anything like that in my games. And please stop trying to come up with things like "semi-allied victory", it is laughable. You told me yourself that Arcahe offered you "to share the victory in the game with him", and you thought it is a "nice option" that you accepted. You never intended to fight him after you would beat me. You just wanted the game to be over as soon as you can. Well, you got you wish. Enjoy it if you can.

Oh, and you have de-facto directly accursed me of lieing, with your insistance that you have seen 2 WQ under my control, which you have even named. Just after I specificaly told that I don't have two WQs, never had, and haven't even resummoned the one I have, since it was never killed by you or anybody else. How about adressing *this* point for a change, huh? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image.../firedevil.gif

Re: Vanhiem is missing/out of thier minds
 

storm, why won't you address the fact that me and quantum have abandoned any suggestion of an allied victory, since it seems to have blown a fuse in your brain?

there is no allied victory. deal w/ it.

unless your problem is that there exists any alliance against you (which I am pretty sure is your real beef). however, I really don't think military alliances are against the rules of this game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Re: Vanhiem is missing/out of thier minds
 

Well, thanks for telling me what I'm thinking. The truth is that me and Arch had talked about it from the start (we never decided either way), and I am willing to continue the game afterward, especially if Ry'leh and Marignon are still having fun with it.

Let me boil it down:

You feel Arch and I are being unfair, not by allying, but by keeping the alliance after you are gone, correct?

The ending the game part was always optional and conditioal on the feelings of all remaining players.

Anyway, if everything is as hopeless as you say, your empire would be gone by then. So it really has no impact on you other than a nice way to lose but be able to say "I only lost due to unfair tactics".

Throne of Heavens
 

To archae : Yeah, right. You should drop that "allied victory" crap that you came up with when I strongly objected to it to both you and quantum 3 turns ago, telling you what I think about it. Instead you completely ignored it, laughing and basicly telling me to take a hike, that it is not agaisnt the rules, etc.

Well, guess what? Take a hike. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

After 3 or 4 turns of your "allied victory" war with 20-30+ battles per turn only on my part, and with your nation overruning the entire NE part of the southern continent as a direct result of your "allied victory" plan, it's a bit too late for that now, don't you think? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image.../firedevil.gif You would never archieved anything close to the gains that you got if not for your "victory partner", and you know it very well. Besides even if I would be willing to continue, and pretend to believe you, what exactly would be changed?? Absolutely nothing. After what was said here in this thread, you and QM would do *exactly* what you were planing to do, just for the heck of it, but this time you simply would not tell about it in public. Don't think people are stupid Archae. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif That only makes yourself look stupid.

Re: Vanhiem is missing/out of thier minds
 

how is our allying against you illegal or unfair? we were both pissed at you and decided to attack. the victory conditions were completely irrelevant to us; hence, why we have no problem dropping them. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

you're just a wuss. look at yourself in the mirror. All you are doing is desperately searching for some lame excuse to blame your loss on - we've all heard you brag about how you win so often (LOL!), but it should be clear to all how you achieve this...

Throne of Heavens
 

Heh. Silly rabbit. Next time try to form your "joint victory" coalition from the begining with all nations except one, if "victory conditions are irrelivent" to you. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif That way you'll be able to win all your games. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif And btw that's the only way you will be able to win against good opponents. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Accursing me of being weak player after I refused a100% assured victory twice in this game, simply because I though it is not a sportsmanship-like, and after you later went so far as to form "joint victory" coalition in what supposed to be FFA game, just because you were too afraid to deal with me yourself is very funny. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif




EDIT: LOL, nm my suggestion about your future games archae. Based upon your words here that I've missed first time, you are already doing just that, and perhaps you have done that in your past games as well:

So how many "victory alliances" have you formed in this game arache? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif What a joke. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

Re: Vanhiem is missing/out of thier minds
 

Why the hell the poor Maltrease is in this struggle beetween you three ... ?

If I see any of his post here, I could understand, but why he's in the middle here without having said anything here. If he's said something in private, probably he wants to keep it private.

For what I know, is damn common that the 2nd and 3rd nation coalizes against the 1st power on the chart (graphs). Even if they project a join alliance, well, this will result in the game outcome and the players will lose some distrust.
In my opinion, for what I've understood, because I'm out of this game since long time, probably will happen a Mictlan/Pangea war when Van is finished off, and depending on Marignon and Ryleh strenght they could act as ally to make the balance going left or right.

The advice I could tell you, for how is frustrating, is to keep playing til the Last, because you said "No Quitter", it's your game and your rule, even if it's a battle lost and of the series "Against the Odds" (a wargaming magazine that usually includes a wargame where 1 side is badly outnumbered).

Re: Vanhiem is missing/out of thier minds
 

I wish you could get it though your head that the possible joint victory was more of coutesy from Arch than anything else. I had assumed that after the war Arch would come out clearly domenent, and further fighting would be pointless. However, if this is not the case, and the other players are interested in trying to take down Arch at that point, I would be happy to break the alliance stay on board. And, as I said before, whatever happens after your empire is gone is irelevent to whether you are quitting.

Re: Vanhiem is missing/out of thier minds
 

Personally, I expect you refused the 'assured victory' because you have a Messiah / God complex (rather appropriate given the game), and because you never thought that you could lose. I'd think you've been listening to Boron and Cohen too much, with their "Stormie's the most experienced Dominions player" bit, except you've always been that way.

You whine about how for 3 or 4 turns they've whomped your ***. How is that different from if they both simply decided to eradicate the only player more obnoxious in his diplomacy than Cohen? It wouldn't require, in any shape or fashion, a joint victory alliance - but then, I think you've been smoking too many joints, really, and maybe Reefer Madness is right and you have become totally disassociated from reality.

Hey! I'm not insulting you - after all, reality sucks, who wouldn't want to be able to ignore it and live in a dream world?

And of course - you ignore all the bits of what has been posted (by the players) that don't fit your "reality" - like the way you pissed off major nations in the game. ( And don't forget, Stormie, I'm pretty sure Quantum Mechanic at least didn't have anything against you prior to this game. Oh, unless he's Norfleet, that is. ) Screwing up diplomatically isn't a good way to win wars.

But, you like to lie in your diplomatic Messages, and you like to bully in them - telling people to accept borders that are unacceptable (for them) or you'll crush them. And you like to lie, period, but no sense in pointing out the threads that I demonstrated this in the past. So I have no doubt but that you _did_ have two WQs, personally.

Still haven't explained the math of someone having "10 times as many SCs" as you though - you claim you only had 1 WQ instead of 2; fine. THat still left you with what, 7 SCs to his 12 or 14? Dude, did you get your education in Florida? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

And Last but not least - you're still quitting a game that you're a major player in, after all your whining and squealing about other people quitting. You're not even finding a substitute.

Sad, Pathetic, Lame behavior all in all. Not that I'm saying that you're any of these things (others can make up their own minds) but that your behavior is.

As expected.

Throne of Heavens
 

You are missing the point Cohen. First I was not the top nation, Mictlan was. As I wrote above several times, he had *much* better army, *many* more SCs, higher gem income and better reseach. I only had small lead in gold income and province number. He also have not been in any serious war since the begining of the game. In fact all he ever done in this game was to swallow first your sub than you when you have returned from your trip. Nothing else, just siting on his arse, farming bloodslaves. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif


Second - quantum and archae had no intentions fo duke it out between themselves whatsoever. They decided to form "joint victory" coalition instead. They have said that themslef to me very clearly.


From quantum's own mouth: "I'm afraid I have some bad news. Mictlan has offered me a very nice joint victory option, so I'm afraid I'm giving notice on our None-Agression treaty".


When I complained about this "joint victory" crap and told him that this is supposed to be FFA game, he refused to change their plan and that: "Honestly a large fator is the increased micro the longer the game goes on".

When I complained about it to Arache, his response was almost exactly the same. And he also told me that he is doing it largly because he " just hates that part of the endgame". http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image.../firedevil.gif



If quantum and archae hated the dom2's endgames so much, why not just find the subs for you like other people did, instead of turning the game from FFA to "join voctory" crap??? Simply because you wanted to "win" the game so badly? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif That's a very lame attitude, to say at least.

Re: MP Game - \"Throne Of Heavens\", veterans and experienced players only (full)
 

Remember, Stormliar wrote in the very first post in thread:
Hey, Stormie? What's your RL (Real Life) emergency that's causing you to quit the game? What happened to "as advanced warning as possible and doing your best to find a human sub"?

I haven't heard any RL emergency. I haven't heard any efforts to get a human sub.

And I don't see _ANY_ rule saying the game was FFA, no allied victories. Just like in other games you've lied, claiming that the rules were specifically tailored to keep Norfleet out, when there was _NO_ rule that in any way excluded him.

You lie like a salesman selling flies.

Throne of Heavens
 

Personally I expect you to have no idea what you are talkign about, because you was never a part of this game. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif Unlike yourslef, Archae, along with other players, had seen things quite clearly, and that's the only reason why he backed down from Zap's threat to throw the game in my favor, after much urging from me. Archae was very pissed and he have complained everywhere about what he called Zap's "blackmail".



Of course you probably suspected as much yourself, since you happly took your part in bashing Zap when he was thinking of quiting, not on the merit but just because he was on your personal "hate list", like Cohen, Baron, myself, others. But as an self-admited addicted flamer you just could not walk past this thread when you saw some familiar faces here. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

Sorry Cain, no cigars for you here. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif I know what you are. Go back to your troll's cave. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

Re: Throne of Heavens
 

Well, Cainehill manage to put me in the middle everytime.
I never said that Storm is one of the most experienced players here ... I don't know even many of the players that walk around there so I can't exactly tell anything about.

For Diplo, well ... to everyone their point of view.
And in every game, different diplo.
Full stop.

Re: Throne of Heavens
 

LOL. Are you surprised? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif That's good old Cain for you. I was only surprised that he didn't pop up earlier. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif He was probably distracted by new 2 forums format, poor guy.

Re: Pangeya is missing
 

This is spinning way out of control. Caine said earlier that I had no reason to be upset with Storm before joining the game, and that's true. Infact, I still am not interested in a conflict over this. I'm merely attempting to end this game in a way that most of the remaining players can agree with. What you say about my comments about the end game are true, but nothing was ever set in stone about what exactly would happen when Storm was gone. Strangely enough, our brief 3 turn war was actually one of the more interesting parts of the game to me (because of my general dislike of the late game, this was only my second expirience I have had fighting a war in it, so I got to use/see tactics that I had not previously).

What I can't understand is how Storm's quitting was tied to whether there would be any kind of alliance victory. The issues seem totally separate, after all, Storm's empire would be gone before it ever became an issue.

Re: Pangeya is missing
 

*shrug* I am not interested in the conflict myself. The purpose of my original message was to express my feelings over direction of the game have taken at the end, and why I am bowing out of it. In fact, in my original message I said that your and Miclan nations played well and become 2 out of 3 the major nations in this game at the end.


Sorry quantum, but if you admit that what I said about your comments are true (and it is true), than that's exactly what they meant. "Joint victory" agreement that Mictlan had offered to you, which, as you both said, was largly motivated by your strong mutual dislike for the endgames, leaved only one road open. The road our game took during these Last 5 turns. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/fear.gif

Well, I am glad you seem to change your opinion about endgames. Personally I think endgames are a lot of fun, especialy in a game such as our, which had several very strong nations at the end, and few minor one. All with very large resourses, very different armies and very different battle tactics. Honestly I was looking forward toward very interesting endgame.

All I can say is that I wish you would come to this conclusion about endgames earlier and would refuse the "shortcut" that Mictlan had offered to you.

It is quite an opposite. These issues are very tightly connected, since the only reason why my empire would be gone was your "joint victory" agreement.

Heh, funny thing is that archae even had guts to ask me "why I would not try to break your alliance diplomatically?" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif What a joke. How could one possibly break an alliance where both partners decided that they will share the victory in the game after they crash all opposition? And why would somebody want to waste 20-30 more turns with 20-40 battles per turn, as I had during Last 3 or 4 turns, disregarding the fact that the game he would be playing will no longer be FFA but "team game" instead, simply because 2 players decided that it will be so mostly because they both didn't like endgames at the time when they forged their agreement? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

Frankly it does not make any sense to me.


Anyway, if you or Arcahe will find subs for all missing players (it looks like you need to find subs for my Vanheim, R'lyeh, and probably Marignon), I'll gladly send to somebody my two passwords for this game. But I can't honestly ask somebody to sub for Vanheim because I would not imagine somebody would want to play Vanheim, or any other in-game nations except your two, in the "team game" where 1 pre-set team has much more resourses than the rest of the nations combined. And also because the game I would be recruiting for will be no longer FFA game that it was supposed to be.


But who knows, maybe somebody will be interested, perhaps for pure educational or for masohistic purposes. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif I'll reset new 6000 hours timer one more time if you want me to.

Re: Pangeya is missing
 

I think it's prefectly reasonable for two nations to ally against another for whatever reason.
I don't have a problem with Pan & Mictlan alliance.
My problem is that by deciding on an allied victory in our FFA game they turned the tables for other players.
If Pan & Mictlan want to wipe Van, R'lyeh and Marignon and then settle it out between then I consider it perfectly acceptable.
So long as there's one winner to the game not two.
It's a subtle but important difference.

Anyway, this conflict is blown way out of proportions.
After reading the opinions of the involved players and better
understanding the situation and especially that there isn't going to be an allied victory I am all for continuing the game.

Yes, my position isn't strong and I will most probably not win the game.
So what?! as long as the game is fair I will continue to enjoy it till I'm blown off the face of the map http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif.

So if you guys are willing to settle your differences, by all means let's continue the game!

The sun will rise in 1 day.
 

As usual in these situations the truth lies somewhere in-between the strong sided positions people take.

It always disappoints me to see so much negative energy being created and directed to our forum. Negative energy is best used to fuel armies of the undead, feeding the coming Armagedon, or at the very least used to heatup that frozen pizza.

As for the game, the Marigon council had spent over 63 turns (before I took over the empire) preparing for the destruction of Mictan. My stewardship would not be complete if I didn't claim victory over Mictan, or at least prove to the council the error of their ways. Our mages have FAITH that they are invincible to armies made from purple blood.

So the mighty and invincible nation of Marigon is prepared to continue the game if the fates lead us in that direction. If the game does die, only 7 of our 30 priest will weap terribly more than the other 23 feel is appropriate.

BTW - I claim victory over Mictan.

Re: Pangeya is missing
 

I agree, that's exactly my problem as well. And the curent situation on the ground is the direct result of their "joint victory agreement". As the nation on the recieving end of it, I can qurantee that there is no way Mictlan would gain the territory that he gained since the begining of hostilites if not for their "joint victory agreement". Even more, if not for thier joint voctory agreement my own actions would be very different. For example - I would never attack Mictlan myself 4 turns ago, even after he withdrew from NAT. The only reason why I did it was thier "joint victory" plan that Pan have informed me about and Archae promptly confirmed, when they both withdrew from NAT treaties. At that point I knew I had nothing to lose since Mictlan would attack me anyway, as soon as he will finish positioning his sneaky troops over my territory, as he did with Machaka. So I decided that I might as well do something about it while I still can, instead of siting on my arse and waiting for the axe to fall. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

I don't think that the map editing that somebody have suggested earlier is a good option either. First of all - it is a huge pain in the butt. Second - what about units/artifacts/armies, etc.? Third - I don't know about you, but I don't keep any old turns around on my comp. There will be no end of arguments about what was what and who was where if we try to "rewind" the game to the time when this "joint voctory" crap was introduced. At least I can honesty say that this proposol do not seem to be very viable to me, all things considering.

Re: The sun will rise in 1 day.
 

High Council of Vanheim witnesses and supports this claim. Mictlan is clearly on the verge of total defeat by Marignon. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif Now you have 2 votes out of 5. Find one more and you'll win! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Re: The sun will rise in 1 day.
 

I'm glad Ry'leh and Mrignon finally spoke their voice in this,
I am happy to continue the game until their nations are ground to dust. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Storm, you don't seem to be getting it, but I will try one more time. We would have allied against you even if we had never thought of turning it into allied victory. Your diplomacy had annoyed us both a lot, and the graphs showed you had become quite powerful. So the issues really are totally separate, you would be facing the same thing if everyone agreed to no allied victory. Unless, of course, you don't believe me that this was our main motivation, which I suppose you are free to do. I never said I now liked the end game, but then again I never hated it either, only preffered the early-middle game.

As far as what to do, how about we continue the war, myself and mictlan vs. Van, Ry'leh and Marignon? If there comes at time when the surviving players are becoming bored, we will deal with it then. Unless Storm disbelieves me about the motivations for the war, this seems to solve everyone's issues.

Re: The sun will rise in 1 day.
 

Qunatum, I think you are the one who is not geting it.

You said yourself that your main motivation for going into war was to avoid long endgames that you hate. You already confirmed that my quotes of your saying just that were correct. Are you going to try to backpedal and deny it now? Same for Archeolept. Also I don't think you have read my previous letter carefully. As I said, my own actions over Last 5 turns would be very different if not for your "joint" victory. I would not attack Mictlan for example after you attacked me. Instead I would quickly wipe your armies with all my SCs in the north, while spending all my money and gems on summoning troops and building castles in the south, to slow Micltan down when he will finally choose to interfere. You have absolutely nothing to stop the full might of my SCs, artifacts and armies. Unlike Mictlan, you also have almost no stealth troops to avoid my ghost riders/teleporting AQs/pretender/Vans. If the war with Mictlan would start even 3 turns later than it did, by that time all of your best troops and SCs would be gone. Than I would have to face mostly Mictlan, at least for the close future.

And if you think I am braging, think about what I did to your on your northern front over the Last 5 turns. And FYI all this time I have been using only 20-25% of my resourses against you. The rest of my forces were tied on the Mictlan front. By yourself you were never a dangerious enemy for Vanheim. Only Mictlan was.


I am not saying this to insult you, just trying to make you understand that things would go very differently if not for your "joint victory" agreement with Mictlan. So saying "ok, let's pretend nothing happened during Last 5 turns and continue as it is but under different name" does not make any sense to me.

Anyway, if you want to continue this game, I am sending my passwords to Maltrease. He will be the new keeper of the gamem if he wants to. Also if he wants, he can also take control over my Vanheim. I have reset the game for the Last time.


P.S. BTW if Quantum is serious about withdrewing from their "joint victory" agreement and honestly agrees to return to FFA game format, than the only logical choice for him would be to attack Mictlan immideatly, in alliance with all other nations. As of this turn , there is no chance in hell for any combination of in-game nations to beat Mictlan/Pangeya alliance, no matter what label they will put on top of it or how they spin it. At the same time Mictlan is much stronger than Pangeya. I would say that if all nations would combine their might against Mictlan and will cooperate very efficiently, they might have a chance agaisnt him, although Mictlan would still have an advantage. So QM, if you are indeed honestly want to try to win the game instead of this "joint victory" crap that you said is no longer valid, your only possible course of action is to withdrew from your allaince, ally with everybody else, and try to stop Mictlan before he gobble too much territory. Frankly you would still most likely fail since Mictlan is too strong by now, but this is the only real possibility to prevent Mictlan from wining the game, if you are indeed honest about your rediscovered commitment to FFA. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Re: The sun will rise in 1 day.
 

The councile of Marigon has come across a new powerful artififact and the necassary runes to make use of it.

With this power it has been able to take direct control of all nations. You will notice that all wealth and magic gems have been reappropriated to "aid" in our cause.

All independent (other nations) units have been disbanded, and the world has finally taken its first steps towards a Lasting piece.

The world IS a safer place now that Marigon has taken control. Soon we issue a new order explaining all the rights and freedoms you no longer have. Fear not though, you will be able to find all the peace and happiness that you need by worshipping our God.

I understand that some of you may not like this outcome, so the councile has decided to allow anyone to appeal this decision. Simply send a four page essay detailing your objections to Maltrease and he will exclude your from the hostile mind control take over.

The dead line for receiving this essay is 10pm EST on Oct 7, 2004.

Re: The sun will rise in 1 day.
 

LOL. Good roleplaying Maltrease. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif The fate of these Realms is in your hands now. Good luck!

Re: The sun will rise in 1 day.
 

I don't know why I should be at all surprised by Storm's hypocrisy and idiocy. It certainly doesn't seem to be a surprise to many others. I'm forced to consider him as having some borderline pathological personality disorder. Frankly, I hope he just stays away from anywhere I am. Its quite clear why, while Norfleet was a vile cheater, so many people nevertheless preferred him to stormwhiner.

As to this game, it now seems to be a bit soured. However, it might be interesting to turn it into a little war as per Maltrease's suggestion.

Perhaps a few more days break to see what we do w/ this? Malt, could you reset the hosting - just stop and restart should do it. When storm changed the hosting Last I thought he had force hosted a new turn, and so I connected and uploaded a completely incomplete turn. thanks.

Re: The sun will rise in 1 day.
 

ROFLOL. Thank you Arcahe, you have made my day. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif Do you think that hiting your opponent with words such as "borderline pathological personality disorder" makes you look very intelligent? Trust me, it doesn't. It only makes you look childish and silly.

I am not going to waste my time on pissing contest with you. I find that observing you spiting lame insults with foam at your mouth is much more amusing. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

I have no control over your paranoya Archae. I have already reseted hosting twice, to avoid any stale turns in case other people will want to continue this game. I've also posted about it on the board, twice. You maybe the one to who loves to screw the game for other people, if you don't like something. A small hint for you my friend - don't judge other people by yourself. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif
Perhaps you should take some anxiety medication, huh? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Re: The sun will rise in 1 day.
 

^^ http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif
________________

that would be great. bye.

Re: The sun will rise in 1 day.
 

You are welcome. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: The sun will rise in 1 day.
 

you forgot to quote in full. the "bye" was especially pertinant. and, in fact, I thought exceptionally polite given the circumstances.

Re: The sun will rise in 1 day.
 

Surpising as it may be to you, I didn't not forget. I quoted only the part that I was responding to, nothing more. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif Given the circumstances, that was exceptionally polite.

Re: The sun will rise in 1 day.
 

I have seen that Last turn was hosted.

I want to be sure about a few things. (my understanding)

1. Is Storm still in? (no)
2. Is Van on AI? (no)
3. So what's up with Van? (free for the taking)
4. Political situation. What are current alliances? (We agreed that most enteraining is Mict vs. Pan+R'llyeh+Marignon)

TIA.

Re: The sun will rise in 1 day.
 

well, there's not much game w/out someone taking over Van. Maltrease proposed he'd run van in some half-assed manner, in an alliance of everyone against me. That seems fine, as long as pan gives his requisite notice so that i can defend that front. this game could still have some fun left in it then.

I'd say keep the hosting slow for the time-being.

If you know someone else who'd want to take over Van, that would also work.

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don't think anyone will be interested in that particular position.

Except Marignon, Any of us who takes over Van will gain a significant advantage.

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yah i think maltrease would do well marshalling van's forces against sweet li'l ol' me. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

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So someone's still being a child, and bailing out without finding a replacement? How ... surprising.

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yah, well, we already covered that. I would say that I've come around for the most part to your point of view on the matter.

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Actually Pan+R'lyeh+Marignon have no chance whatsoever against Mictlan. But if you don't believe me, try it and you'll see it very soon.

You need to get somebody playing Van to balance the game.
Just my two cents.

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f*ck off stormbinder. you've left the game, now bugger off back to your little hole and let us sort out this mess.

the proposal by maltrease was for him to take over van and use him in the alliance. It could be entertaining.

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ROFLOL Arcahe. I was not aware that you live in the little hole. It is too bad that your mother didn't teach you any manners. Perhaps it's not too late, huh? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif You do sounds as if you are still in the tender age when it might still be possible. The alternative explanantion for your frequent tantrums is worse for you. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

I don't need your permission to post in the thread that I've started, thank you very much. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif I post my opinion, if you don't like it - too bad. You are free to ignore it.

As for Van and alliance - that's what I proposed to Malt myself when I bowed out of the game. I am sorry to say but you seem to have memory problem in addition to all your other issues.

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sweet. the forums now have an "ignore user" option

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Hmm I wonder if there is a way to turn on "ignore user" for everyone at the same time. Yes, there must be. Its MySQL based and has a command window. Might take some fiddling but it would be possible. That would be funnier than banning someone, just turn on a blanket ignore to anything they put in. Whats the old word for it? Shunning? or Worfs discombooberation or whatever it was when they all turned their backs.

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I think the word you are searching for is "ostracism" Gandelf. It came fom the Ancient Greece, than it migrated into Latin, and from there to other european Languages. And yes, it could be more fun than ignoring or banning, forum-wise. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

It could be a bit hard to implement though, considering the fact that not all people accept cookies in their browsers, which you would likely need to implement such a feature. But the idea is interesting. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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hmmm, I think we're just waiting for quantum to say he's into playing a bit of "let's all gang up on the peaceful Micts who never harmed anybody."

Malt, you should definitely play the vannish turn. Let's keep this really slow host schedule going too, pls.

Also, have you managed to gain control of the game yet? I need you to change the master pass or else Stormbinder will be able to snoop around my game, possibly causing trouble; which I fully expect him to do, frankly, since that is my opinion of his character.

He certainly has no legitimate reason whatsoever to keep control of the game.
shunning is probably the most apt term, but there is that old phrase "sent to Coventry."

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LOL. You are so funny Arcahe. You try so hard to insult somebody but just end up looking stupid every time. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
Try to think about it for a second - even if I would have any interest of "snooping" around your turns, which of course I don't, how could I possibly affect the game which I am no longer part of?? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif It would require a direct cooperation and conspiracy between me and at least one in-game player against you.
You know, you remind me of Norfleet, he also loved to come up with ridiculious conspiracy theories, of how everybody is out to get him. Perhaps you should write him, ask if he needs a roomate in his undeground bunker. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Or do you suspect me to somehow alter your turns in such subtle and malicious way that you would not even notice that I did it? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif


To Maltrease: Got your email Malt, wrote you reply already. Glad that you are having good time on your vocation. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif About Throne game - I just disowned Vanheim nation on Mose's server. I am not sure if it have changed anything else though. I haven't found any other ways to "disown" the game. If you know of one, let me know and will be glad to do it. Personally I thought that you can already change whatever you want in the game, since I gave you the master password for it together with my own password. I could be wrong though, since I haven't played with this part of Mose's scripts before.

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Iirc when you stop the game after it is stopped you can disown it .

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Hmmm, is it so? Thanks Boron. That could explain why I haven't seen such option, since the game is currently running.


Well guys, if you want me to try to do it let me know. I don't want to meddle with stoping and restarting of this game that I am no longer part of, unless players will ask me to do it.

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I am not sure though if there is an own-option then for other ppl as well .
So if you really want to do this or archeolopt wants you to do this seriously then it would be best to ask mose himself probably .

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Just curious - is this game still running?

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lol it was Last i looked http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

i had quite a few gems...

stormwhiner refused to ever give up ownership, so no one can stop it. hmmm, i guess maybe someone should email mose.