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I'm out of town from tomorrow through the 28th, so I'm going to reset the clock until the evening of the 29th. I hope to get in a turn or two during Christmas, but it won't be a sure thing, so we'll have to see how it goes.

Right now, we're on turn 96, and it's waiting on me and Edi. I'll get in my turn tonight, and so hopefully we'll see it host before I head out.

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Still not hosted http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

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It looks like you just killed me, Thufir. Wiped out most of my main army, but I didn't expect things to go much differently. I don't have ready access to cheap SCs like you do, so I'm eventually going to lose badly.

Edi

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Surely Edi you can summon Bane Lords... or better yet summon Vampires. IMHO Vampire Lords are excellent cheap SCs, and immortal to boot so if you wind up fighting a defensive war they are outstandingly cost effective.

I know Abysia does not have many death casters, but surely by now you must have some indep mages with death and blood... and once you summon one Vampire Lord, they can summon each other quite easily... all you need is a ton of blood!

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Sorry about that! I'm working on my turn right now, and I'll reset to 48hr QH when I'm done (although be warned - it's taking me 3+ hrs to do a turn these days http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif )

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Sorry to hear that Edi, if it helps any, I think that you've been doing a good job with your global spells, but clearly your army is in need of SCs (or SC chassis used as casters). Also, any of Soapy's suggestions are a good idea. I did (as may be obvious) take a page from a recent thread where Rain of Stones or Earthquake was a suggested spell vs. national mages. I actually had some difficulty employing the tactic, as I made a couple of errors in scripting/movement orders, but clearly the spell works quite well!

Personally, I don't think it's so much a question of how Abysia fares vs. Man, but rather Man vs Abysia plus Atlantis (plus Ulm, if you can, or have brought Soapy over to your side). Clearly, I out-resourse Abysia right now, maybe even Abysia plus Atlantis, but I don't think the outcome is a given if everyone is ganging up on me.

OTOH, if the game is no longer enjoyable for you, I would understand that. I don't think its outrageous to turn Abysia AI, or we can also look for a sub (especially if odd_enuf or Soapy thinks that that is important).

Let us know how you want to procede.

- Thufir


Edit:

I really hate to give my enemies any intel on what works against me, but I will tell you Last turn was a bad turn for me, and that both you and Atlantis contributed to the damage done. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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The devils from horde to hell are excellent thugs .
Abysia has excellent access to SCs anyways http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif .
Panther as Abysia has now all IDs and ADs in my new game , newbie slugfest . We are VH research there and on turn 58 now .
Imo Abysia , Mictlan and Jotunheim have the easiest access to lots of different SCs/thugs .
Despite common opinion Flames from the sky / afar kill also hidden troops . Thufir killed lots of my clamhoarders (scouts/black servants) with some FFTS .

P.S. What thufir says is true . You did quite some damage to him .

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My apologies for the many delays http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif - I'm working on my turn once again, however.

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Bane Lords, yes, if I wipe out all of my death gems. Death income is and has been throughout the game my weakest point, I just got shafted in that department when sites were allocated. Vamp Lords, I might be able to, but it's difficult.

I'll see what I can do to salvage things.


True enough, but if you can decimate me quickly enough, I'll be out of the picture, and if I can't counter your tactics, it's what will happen. We'll see.


I'm not going AI, I'm sticking with this until the end. Who knows what might happen.


Well, it's all part of the service! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif
Glad to hear that my efforts are not completely in vain then. I do like the tools I've got, and there's something to be said for being immune to Fire Domes...

Edi

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We are now reset to 48hr QH, but obviously, I've had some difficulty keeping up. I'll see if I can find a way to get my turns done more quickly, but I may have to back off to 72hr QH.

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I'd say it was bad, i alone killed off a wished for nataraja with 3-5 artifacts, a large army including a bunch of storm devils, and 25 commanders, including 6+ fully decked out titans, several who were enslaved minded

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I don't know what I've done, but apparently Thufir's forging industry has suffered some setbacks due to long distance artillery I provided...

Edi

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Working on my turn now - this time my excuse is that I've had the flu since New Year's Eve http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

odd_enuf, you exaggerate a bit methinks. However, simply killing my Nataraja was devestating enough. Your paralysis spam was a surprise, and a most excellent anti-SC tactic! I debated a long time whether to use the burning pearl or amulet of anti-magic in the Natarajas spare slot - I now am wondering how that battle would've gone had I chosen the amulet instead.

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All right, I'm officially done for. I just lost six or seven provinces to ghostriders, had some of those taken over by blackhawks, had all of my SCs killed, or worse, charmed, and most of my remaining army destroyed.

My fire gem income has also been significantly cut due to Eternal Pyre being dispelled, I imagine Thufir was getting tired of having Skyfire raining down on his armies...

Anyway, the sum total of my situation is that what I can do from now on will be the feeble twitching of a near-corpse, and I certainly don't have anything capable of dealing with 6+ fully equipped Tartarians, a King of Fire, charmers, a Heliophagus and now two fully equipped Arch Devils (Ethanim and Furcas), and certainly not while having between three and six ghost riders or more cast at me every turn (because I hadn't managed to madcastle everything).

I'm not going AI quite yet, there's still some ways of hitting back and if nothing else, dumping my gems and items for someone who can make better use of them when I'm too far gone to do anything effective.

Edi

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Ouch... somehow it didnt look that bad from my perspective!

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Is this game dead? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

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Seems that way to me, the hosting deadline has been repeatedly extended so that I haven't even bothered to check for the past three days. I'll play my turn when a new one becomes available, but so far it's been hanging on Thufir.

Edi

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yea, if thufir can't keep up a schedual, he should stop resetting the time and iethor accept the stales or go AI, its not fair to the rest of us.

odd_enuf

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Hmm, this thread has not been active in a long time, but looks like the game is slowly but surely coming to a close. Odd_enuf is going to win this one, but I'm susprised I'm still even around. I imagine Soapy is not a very happy camper after what I've done to several of his armies that have poked their noses in through the wrong door...

Edi

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Heheh, well I am not unhappy per se. I have only slowly lost ground vs Atlantis, and managed to inflict some nice setbacks to him.

That said he has OBSCENE resources, and with Man idling and giving up all his territory to Atlantis I would give myself, overall, a snowball's chance in hell of victory.

Still its pretty fun to fling 600 devil armies around.

Thats a LOT of summer lions you have there Edi! Heheh very very impressive http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

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Well, I didn't really have anything else to do with my fire gems that would have done me any good, and I had a lot of idling F3 mages around. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Unfortunately I think I'm soon out of tricks. Did you check your email, by the way?

Edi

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Yea and I responded... did you not get it?

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Yeah, I did. Just hadn't gotten the reply when I posted that.

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This game is crazy... !!!!!

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Well after that last battle (1000 units on each side! Alas I lost it pretty badly...) I am prepared to say that I can no longer even pretend to conduct offensive operations.

From here on our, it will just be desperate resistance and house to house fighting http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

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Excuse me, but what the hell has just been happening? I've been away for about a week or so, and checking the game now, everything seems to have gone crazy! I've got almost all of my units in the middle of Atlantis territory with no idea how they got there, being hammered by Murdering Winter, half my commanders are presumably dead and everything else has gone to hell in a handbasket as well. Not that I had any hope of winning or anything, but this was just a big "WTF?!" experience.

Thufir has been gone for a long time, so I don't know if there is any real sense actually continuing to the bitter finish. I'll be dead of dominion drain in short order anyway.

Edi

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Heheh I think Atlantis is just practciing beating up on us.

I am putting up a token resistance but yes the end is quite inevitable.