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DragonFire11 November 11th, 2004 12:02 PM

Re: Connect
 
Ouch, I have a strange problem. Yesterday I was playing a single player battle and I got an out of memory error (I have half a gig of RAM). The game would not restart. So I reloaded, and re-patched but still it won't work.

Any ideas?

Grim Knight November 11th, 2004 02:03 PM

Re: Connect
 
Server IP has shifted.

IP is now: 69.10.118.172

I work graveyard and just got home and checked the Boards and noticed this, I am resetting the Timer to avoid Stale Turns.

This is fairly rare so hopefully will not happen again any time soon.

Grim Knight

Grim Knight November 11th, 2004 02:15 PM

Re: Connect
 
Dragonfire, does it give you a specific error when you try to load the program?

Does the error occur when you are open the program itself or when you select a menu item inside the game?

If it is giveing a specific error, what are the details of the error specifically does it reference any recognizable file names?

Have you recently installed any patches to your OS or to any major programs that always run, Antivirus, Firewall, etc.?

What OS are you running?

When you reloaded did you completely uninstall the game first?

If you uninstalled it did you delete any files left behind other than Maps, Mods, Pretenders, and Save Games?

There are just not enough details in your initial post to draw any conclusions.

Grim Knight

DragonFire11 November 11th, 2004 10:43 PM

Re: Connect
 
Hi Grim Knight:

Here are more details:

1. I get no error message, except for when the game first crashed which was insufficient memory. Now the game simply won't start and all I get is a black screen for a few seconds and then I am on my desktop.

2. I have not installed anything recently including patches. In fact, a couple of months back I did a new load of windows and the system is quite clean.

3. I am using XP Home SP2.

4. The first reload I simply reinstalled. The second reload I uninstalled, moved all folders except one or two game files, and then reinstalled. I will try a complete reinstall momentarily.

5. Shrapnel emailed and suggested that I delete all files in my windows temp folder -- this did not work.

6. The PC seems stable and functioning in all other respects except for Dom2. I read somewhere that the SP2 can affect some games, but since I have not had this issue previously it seems an unlikely cause.

7. I also did a system restore to a couple of days ago when the game worked. No luck.

I hope this info helps.

DragonFire11 November 11th, 2004 10:49 PM

Re: Connect
 
I just did a complete fresh install with no folders remaining. A total failure.

Actually, I've never before seen a problem like this one. I am stumped.

DragonFire11 November 11th, 2004 10:52 PM

Re: Connect
 
Shrapnel asked that I look into the stderr file in the dom folder. It contains the following:

Något gick fel!
Failed to create temp directory properly (already existed)

I don't have a clue what this means, but it might point to the problem.

The Panther November 11th, 2004 11:14 PM

Re: Connect
 
Try to do an uninstall and then install the game from the CD again. Just deleting the proper folders might not be enough.

DragonFire11 November 11th, 2004 11:20 PM

Re: Connect
 
Ah, I tried that!

Thanks.

deccan November 12th, 2004 12:11 AM

Re: Connect
 
This post might help:

Check if this "C:\DOCUME~1\Chris\LOCALS~1\Temp/dom16882" directory exists. If it does (it shouldn't) you can delete it and try again.

Edit: Doh! Trouble finding the right URL...

DragonFire11 November 12th, 2004 01:24 AM

Re: Connect
 
That was it Deccan -- but Shrapnel tech support helped me first. It was a tough one to hunt down for sure, but it's fixed and apparently the next patch will fix this issue. Thanks for your help! So I'm back in the game.

Grim Knight November 12th, 2004 01:59 PM

Re: Connect
 
Cool, looks like it was fixed before I could reply.

Grim Knight.

Grim Knight November 12th, 2004 02:14 PM

Re: Connect
 
New Turn is Up.

Grim Knight

KroolDeath November 12th, 2004 09:28 PM

Re: Connect
 
Hmmm, I have yet to have a valid turn in this game with the game restarts and unable to connect.

Aku November 13th, 2004 01:20 AM

Re: Connect
 
my turns are all working fine...but i did delete the old game file before we restarted

oh and just boron left

should we restart again if people are having difficulties?

The Panther November 13th, 2004 01:22 AM

Re: Connect
 
Too many restarts already...

Grim Knight November 13th, 2004 02:20 PM

Re: Connect
 
At this point the server is running fine. In the previous thread before I offered to host the game I did try to make it clear that I don't have an entirely static IP address, it does change on occaision for various reasons, usually only if I am forced to power off my cable modem, this is an occurence that happens once in a while, but usually it is weeks or even months between these occurences.

The other issues with the Hard Drive crash and everything was beyond my control and I do apologize for that, it was a major bummer from my end too beleive me. I have as I said taken measures to ensure that nothing that drastic happens again.

Every morning when I get home from work, I check the server and verify that the IP address has remained unchanged. If it has changed I will post the new IP here immediatly and reset the timer back to 24 hours to give everyone a chance to get their turns in, and try to avoid stale turns.

I agree with Panther we have had too many restarts already so as long as a Majority of the players are able to connect without issue the game will continue as is.

Grim Knight.

DragonFire11 November 13th, 2004 04:22 PM

Re: Connect
 
Thanks Grim Knight! I appreciate your contribution and I can easily live with the minor issues. Don't sweat it.

Aku November 13th, 2004 04:28 PM

Re: Connect
 
Grim Knight dont worry you are doing a good job as host.

KroolDeath November 13th, 2004 04:53 PM

Re: Connect
 
Yes, I'm ok, just had to whine a sec.:)

Krool

PashaDawg November 13th, 2004 05:07 PM

Re: Connect
 
Everything's going good over here in the fertile forests of Pangaea! We've even brought the Good News to a needy province of independent heathens.

deccan November 13th, 2004 09:41 PM

Re: Connect
 
Turn 6 is up.

Steerpike November 13th, 2004 10:00 PM

Strange battle result
 
Whoa! I had a battle Last turn which when I viewed it my Giants most definately won, yet the result said that I lost and they, the independants, had no casualties.
I am upset a little by this and fearful of a reapeat.
Has anyone else had funny results?

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/fear.gif

archaeolept November 13th, 2004 10:07 PM

Re: Strange battle result
 
ehh, almost always this means you weren't watching the right battle. you need to have the same patch as the server (probably 2.14) in order to correctly view a battle. otherwise, you are just watching battles in some alternate reality.

Steerpike November 13th, 2004 10:19 PM

Re: Strange battle result
 
I have that patch though

Aku November 13th, 2004 10:29 PM

Re: Strange battle result
 
Something strange happened to me too this turn. My capital got 37 unrest and I had no random events. Very weird. And i am on patch 2.14.

archaeolept November 13th, 2004 10:29 PM

Re: Strange battle result
 
save the file and send it to illwinter

CuriousCat November 14th, 2004 12:40 AM

Re: Strange battle result
 
Grim Knight can you verify that the newly reinstalled server is patched to 2.14?

Grim Knight November 14th, 2004 05:08 PM

Re: Strange battle result
 
Yes, I closed and restarted the server and in the main menu it definitly says 2.14.

So consider it confirmed.

The only thing I can think of is the possibility that it is somehow reading old data from one of the previous starts. At least this is the only thing that comes to my mind as a likely possibility, so it may be a good idea for everyone to clear their old game folders and let them be recreated when next you connect to the game.

Grim Knight.

Aku November 16th, 2004 01:46 AM

Re: Strange battle result
 
turn 9 is up

Steerpike November 16th, 2004 10:56 AM

lack of statistics
 
Phew! only one exam to go.
The lack of info on my noble opponents is doing my head in a little bit, this is the first time I have played with stats off and I like it a lot but I crave to know more and I havn't found a province with scouts yet.
Little tidbits of info get through though to tantalise the tastebuds, such as Devil Queen dying (you have plenty of Mercs to ease your pain Abyssia), or Red Dragon who had such a hard time in the aborted Newbie Slugfest 2 is now a monster seemingly taking all before him (or her, I think the Females are bigger http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif).
Yes things are starting to get exciting in an opaque kind of way.
Please let me take a province with cheap scouts next turn.
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

deccan November 16th, 2004 06:58 PM

Re: lack of statistics
 
Devil Queen dying? Just another immortal VQ likely...

The Panther November 16th, 2004 08:04 PM

Re: lack of statistics
 
Quote:

Steerpike said:
Phew! only one exam to go.
The lack of info on my noble opponents is doing my head in a little bit, this is the first time I have played with stats off and I like it a lot but I crave to know more and I havn't found a province with scouts yet.
Little tidbits of info get through though to tantalise the tastebuds, such as Devil Queen dying (you have plenty of Mercs to ease your pain Abyssia), or Red Dragon who had such a hard time in the aborted Newbie Slugfest 2 is now a monster seemingly taking all before him (or her, I think the Females are bigger http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif).
Yes things are starting to get exciting in an opaque kind of way.
Please let me take a province with cheap scouts next turn.
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

Ah, but I have already found the Giants and the Harpies!

As for the Devil Queen dying, sadly this is true. Attacking blind early frequently causes this little annoyance. But dying increases your ranking in the HoF, for whatever odd reason! Each death is worth something like 10 points in the HoF score.

It is also amazing what can be gleaned from the only stat that is always on, the HoF. I too saw just how happy Boron must be with the restart!

Steerpike November 16th, 2004 08:48 PM

Re: lack of statistics
 
whoops! my mistake its Marignon with all the mercs. The little flags for some reason confused me. Oops, Grim Knight must be selling fire gems left right and centre to afford those boys.

PashaDawg November 17th, 2004 12:44 AM

Re: lack of statistics
 
Quote:

The Panther said:

Ah, but I have already found the Giants and the Harpies!


And Our stealthy harpies see you, Devil Wench.

Steerpike November 17th, 2004 11:51 AM

Re: lack of statistics
 
Quote:

PashaDawg said:
Quote:

The Panther said:

Ah, but I have already found the Giants and the Harpies!


And Our stealthy harpies see you, Devil Wench.


Aaahhh, sounds like a love affair is brewing already. Tis the "Taming of the Shrew" anew, yet which pray tell is the shrew to be tamed?

I personally love the both of yee and wish to prove my love with my GIGANTIC manhood, any takers? Pasha AU Naturale... Devil Queeen.

Aku November 18th, 2004 12:54 AM

Re: lack of statistics
 
turn 11 is up!

PashaDawg November 18th, 2004 01:11 AM

Re: lack of statistics
 
Quote:

Steerpike said:

I personally love the both of yee and wish to prove my love with my GIGANTIC manhood, any takers? Pasha AU Naturale... Devil Queeen.

HA!! You have not seen the magnificent schwanstoke of the Great Lord of the Wild!

Aku November 18th, 2004 03:28 AM

Re: lack of statistics
 
hmm anyone else notice that in the hof...vanheims god just died lol...i wonder if he was immortal

deccan November 18th, 2004 08:27 AM

Re: lack of statistics
 
Looks like Beorne and KroolDeath started next to one another again. Wonder if one or the other is going to hold a grudge...

Beorne November 19th, 2004 05:49 AM

Re: lack of statistics
 
In the Last games I was "squeezed" by Grim and Panther over poor KroolDeath but this has not avoided the crushing of my empire.
Considering that now I have lots of open field to expand in, and with my obsidan/feathered warriors my punch vs indep 9 is very slow and weak (and considering I fear Van) I hope peace will reign for long time between my rivers of blood ...

Aku November 19th, 2004 06:21 PM

Re: lack of statistics
 
turn 13 is up!

deccan November 20th, 2004 03:00 AM

Re: lack of statistics
 
New turn up.

Aku November 20th, 2004 03:34 AM

Re: lack of statistics
 
uh oh...pasha isnt going to be happy when he sees his turn

Steerpike November 20th, 2004 03:52 AM

Re: lack of statistics
 
Alright Aku share with all Pashas misfortune. I wont laugh I promise. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

deccan November 20th, 2004 04:00 AM

Re: lack of statistics
 
So much for the magnificent schwanstoke of the Great Lord of the Wild!

Steerpike November 20th, 2004 04:51 AM

Re: lack of statistics
 
Sorry Aku , I was too lazy to look at the HOF, that makes three Pretenders who have died, nasty http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif

Aku November 20th, 2004 12:32 PM

Re: lack of statistics
 
Every 5 turns a new pretender dies lmfao. Bec of difficult research they cant research their uber spells to keep them alive lol.

PashaDawg November 20th, 2004 02:47 PM

Re: lack of statistics
 
Nothing to worry about... it's just a flesh wound.

deccan November 21st, 2004 09:03 AM

Re: lack of statistics
 
New turn is up.

KroolDeath November 21st, 2004 04:29 PM

Re: lack of statistics
 
Yea, so much for trying to take a province alone with my Pretender.

And no grudges against Beorne, too busy with Call God right now! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Krool


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