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Re: Mail Status....

Why, go and beat them with your national troops! Early wars are a tried and true strategy: every single time I used it, I got trashed, so it must be good. I am merely unable of pulling it out without being blown out from the skies.

Slightly more seriously, the status mail is sent 24 hours before the deadline no matter what happens, and is mostly here to let the players who have uploaded that their turn is in and the others that they have 24 hours before hosting. It is also nice to check that all player files work, and that no player sent a .trn file instead of a .2h, among other things.

But since I am fairly lazy, those status mails are direct and to the point, so no attention should be given to the form of those mails. I simply give the appropriate information, throw in a subject and a verb to get something looking like a proper sentence, and voil�! the status mail is ready.

Re: Mail Status....

Guys, I extend an appology from Petar and I. We have been total flakes so far, especially as diplomacy goes. Those who have played us before know that even when we are arrogant, we try to do it without skimping on the effort.

Right now, we are just starved for time. We will get on it once I am back in Strasbourg. For now, I just want to say - we are both backing off towards our capitals, and we will not expand in the directions where our pretenders were going when they fought other players troops. All messages will be answered, just later, ok?

Global situation. Turn 10

Some Folks have asked for information about this game as it progresses. Obviously some aspects of each empire need to remain unobserved. However I think it'd be cool to say a little about your team and how things are going.

Ulm/Mictlan- The Blood Empire
This fledgling nation borders six factions. Ulm'lan diplomacy has been more effective in some provinces than others. Total war with Caelum and Acroscephale was narrowly avoided by both parties as expanding armies rattled sabres across a ice covered mountain range.
The Nation of Pan-bysia lays upon another border, these industrious folk have a strong dominion and seem to betotally peaceful lovers of Nature and hellish flames. A rather odd lot, but who are we to complain. All remains quiet there.
The distant Empire of Jotun-Van remains almost a mystery, though the most daring of Ulmish traders have found they're way to the frozen lands of this distant Empire.
The Blood empire is virtually ignorant of the C'ti-Gnonian peoples. A brazen scout from marignon was captured within the ulmish capitol. Unfortunately the spy died while under interigation of overzealous templars. We would wish these peoples peace and continued distance.
Relations with Erm-ithia have not as of yet developed. Though speaking with the dead is rarely fruitful, we hold no particular disdain for the strangest marriage of factions known through the ages.
Overall, the Blood Empire is strong and taking root within many provinces. While no other faction has shown itself as 'Enemy', we continue with caution. Several other empires are within striking range, as our ripe pastures are equally open to evil raiders of false gods.
-Yc

Re: Global situation. Turn 10

My little band of Seers are delighted by your summary YellowCacti.

I was thinking of pasting the rumours in this thread as well. They are fairly cryptic and ominous, so I guess they would be the words of some prophet. Incidentally, if you would like to send a rumour, feel free to do so (or the gist of a rumour).

The highlights after turn 6:
- The realm of Vanheim is the biggest in the known world, and their wealth is second only to the Iron Kingdom of Ulm.
- Pythium and Pangaea have been blessed with an abundance of magic jewels.
- Caelum remains the most enlightened realm in the world, and their knowledge of arcana is unparalleled.
- The land of Ermor is a place of great importance for the spirituality; nowhere else is the power of a Pretender greater than in their realm.
- The armies of Mictlan and Ermor are the most numerous at present.

The highlights for turn 7:
- The Sibling realm of Pythium and the Blazing realm of Abysia are the smallest in the known world; these nations seem content with their ancient possessions.
- Ermor is the poorest land in the realm, where even copper is worth a small king's ransom.
- The Iron realm of Ulm, the Antediluvian realm of Arcoscephale, the Fiery realm of Marignon and the Northern Marches of Jotunheim are the lands where fewest magic jewels can be found.
- The Fiery realm of Marignon is the place where knowledge is the least pursued, perhaps as a side result of the work of the Inquisition.
- The deities of Mictlan have the least power among their subjects, surely because they require much more of their believers than those soft Goddesses and Gods do.
- The army of Caelum is the smallest in the world; the Caelites are said to have lost any taste for weapons they might have had, and perhaps all measure of courage they ever had.

Turn 8:
Everything seems so quiet now that fall is coming to an end. With the ever shortening days and the white mantle of winter spreading over the land, warfare should come to an end... or so was hoped.

Rumours of an unlikely union between the two realms of the Northern Marches, Jotunheim and Vanheim, were becoming more common. Together, the Northern realms hold more land than any other, and winter will certainly not prevent them from expanding their holdings further. It appears that blood will dot the snow after all.

Turn 9:
During those long nights in the heart of winter, the common folk gather by the fireplace, exchanging stories to raise their spirit. Where the harvest was bountiful, a few prayers in glory to the One can be heard, thanking the Pretender for this new found abundance. Where food is scarce, the One is called upon in the hopes of better days to come.

Boasts about the greatness of one's nation are frequent, regardless of the actual welfare of the realm; but not all the braggarts have equal reason to be so content. Bold would be the one claiming to know the future, for there was no telling which realm would be first to fall; when faced by the cold iron and the fury of magic, pride means so little.

Turn 10:
The longest day was over, and the grip of winter was weakening day after day. Many times the sun would rise and fall before the green hues of spring would arrive, as all were reminded by the biting cold in the mornings. Soothsayers spoke of this year as the Bittersweet winter, an herald of the times to come, and of the increasing strength of the Icy Gods.

The weather was not the only reason for some of the shivers that were felt this year however. Dire tidings from the Sibling realm of Pythium were brought by travellers; their words were not for the wonders of Pythium, often called the jewel of civilisation and humankind, but for the battles that were fought near the city. Some had it Pythium itself had already been sacked, others claimed the invaders had been crushed; each time the story was told, the fate of Pythium changed.

On one thing did the rumours agree: that Pythium could be endangered thus, or fall so swiftly, was no good omen for the future.

Re: Global situation. Turn 10

Bravo Alneyan a beautiful post indeed, it created images and made me long for more.

Should be more of this and less of the numbers say I.

Re: Global situation. Turn 10

The Association of Travelling Rumourmongers may not be sued on any ground whatsoever; the information is provided free of charge without any guarantee regading its validity, as evidenced by the fine print coming with all our rumours.

We nonetheless provide top-notch intelligence to all interested clients, but that would cost a small extra, and a tiny bribe to solve "matters of conscience of an honest host". http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Rumour for turn 11

As word from Pythium grew scarce, they faded away from the prime concerns of the people: never the prideful Pythium had fallen to an enemy, strong in the confort of her walls. And whatever their fate was, precious little could be done. Rather, the closer neighbours were becoming a concern. While in the past borders were held by mild hirelings, lords and even royalty were now strengthening their hold on their provinces. Sometimes the quill determined where the border between two realms was to be; other times the sword solved such disputes. Peace still reigned, but already skirmishes occurred, and talk of war could be heard among the bolder soldiers.

Winter was coming to an end, more sharply than in known memory: it was as hot as in springtime, flowers were blossoming, and the land was almost wakening. A fiery cult was gaining in influence, or so was said; others spoke of the ever-burning pyres of Abysia, where more of their folk worked than was usual, and the ones with the "inner flame" were often sighted far from their birthplace. But late blizzards brought the painful reminder that winter was not over yet; Abyssians were not the only ones having such power as to alter the weather of the land.

Re: Rumour for turn 11

Did the turn run? huhuhu?
-yc

Re: Rumour for turn 11

It is scheduled to run in exactly 23 minutes and counting (2000 GMT, so 2100 my time). Problem is, I am still missing turns for two teams, so it will likely be delayed.

Re: Rumour for turn 11

Among the taverns of Ulm-Lan patrons grumble about lazy Ulmish Knights who spend too much time picking the King's apples and lounging in the Sun. All is dispicably peaceful, and entertainment is focused within a few arenas spread about the lands.
-Yc

Re: Rumour for turn 11

Did anybody receive yesterday turn? I've got nothing. Has it been hosted?

Re: Rumour for turn 11

I havn't recieved it.

Where oh where.....

Perhaps some industrious youth could e-mail the Host?
-Yc

Re: Where oh where.....

My DSL died on me, hence the delay. The turn has just run, and will reach you in a short while (though the rumour will be sent later on, once I am done with catching up).

Re: Where oh where.....

Alneyan, However you want to run the rumors is fine with me. They are delightful and enrich the game.
-Yc

Re: Where oh where.....

Even other Pretenders, not yet threatened with destruction, had met death; only lucky Pretenders had managed to avoid the most traumatic experience. Worst of all, such deaths were often made with mundane steel, by commoners: it seemed that even powerful Pretenders could still be killed by mortal soldiers, with no specific outfit. Such were those trouble times: a world where goddesses and gods were made and were killed.

I can't hold it in anymore.

Bwhahahah!! This was so funny..

If I'd known Acroscepale had twenty-nine mystics with a banner of the north star, we could have perhaps spoken about an extended peace!
-Yc

Hush, at least you're not Marignon, YC.

I can't believe I killed his god with an earth attack, hehe. That just shouldn't happen..

Look,
Stop messin' around with the fanatical Marignoners.....We gots Giants ta slay!
-Yc

We're just talking back and forth to each other, YC! Someone else post on this page!!!

Keep in mind the Wisdom of the Ancients, YC and CU: "Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!" You will understand the wisdom of those words as soon as the turn runs. *Sniggers*

Erm, Hear that Cunknown....
Somebody's gonna cast a spell on you!

I think you sent the files from last turn, Alneyan.

I did. It had been such a long time since I last made a mistake when sending the turns, I had to do it again. Updated turns should have reached you by now.

Thanks a lot for hosting this game, Alneyan, you've been doing a great job!

Nice co-ordination fellows. Think Mictlan alone lost ten provinces! Why all the hate?
-Yc

I have to object to Alneyan playing Van/Jot. If they quit the game, make their factions AI controlled. It's not fair to YC and me.

I would much rather let someone else play them than turn them AI; we all know how the AI is - dumb, and worse, likely to just attack Pangaea or Abysia, a decision that nobody in their right minds would take.

Any decision on the matter will be up to Abysia/Pangaea however. If they would rather put someone else in charge, there is also the issue of rerunning the turn: there were two major battles in Vanheim/Jotunheim, and those should be left to the new player. In this case, all players would not get to change their orders, of course, and the new player would have no access to the current outcome of the battles.

Okay, well, we can leave it as is for now. It is cool that you are taking such an interest in a game you're not even playing! Definitely you are the best host ever.

I just really want to win, that's all. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

I'll calm down about it now.

Um.. is this game over?

I think that Pan/Abyssia have a decent shot, especially if Alneyan is playing Van/Jot.

I think we should keep playing unless the other side doesn't think they have a shot. Both Mictlan and I took major losses last turn, although we're both still very strong.

I have to agree with you CU: from what I do know of Pangaea and Abysia, they have a lot of resources, and should be able to do something to slow you down. I cannot force them to go on though, unless someone else happens to be interested in taking them over.

I believe the main threat (in terms of military power) is Mictlan, but that could be just because I have a much easier time dealing with Ulmish armies (especially when using someone's else battle tactics) than Mictlan elite commanders. Still, I think there are ways to take down those Mictlanese armies... though victory, of course, is another matter altogether.

The game is now over, with Mictlan and Ulm being the winners.

Attached to this post is the archive of all the turns in the game, along with the orders issued by all players (in the case of turn 43, only the turn files are in, as this turn was the last in the game). The master password is Eleanor.

I looked through the turn files from the last turn. That's a nice bit of record keeping Alenyan. Your Awesome. Abyssia was at Blood 9. Pan had a nice 'mid-game' summons strategy going. Van and Jot were dug in. I think though that Mictlan (Also at Blood 9) would have started getting the demon lords before Abyssia. Ulm, in my opinion was underestimated. Cunknown is a great player. He had a steady strategy with earth attacks, and they would only get worse. Also, Tartarian production had begun. With his chalice and exceptional forging capacity, Ulm would be fielding tartarians en masse. Once some pressure was put to Abyssia, it's blood income would diminish and Mictlan-Ulm would have won. This isn't 100%. But I feel confident after looking through the files. Great game. All players put a full effort into the game. This one was so much fun. Jotenheim was a good sport! I did him wrong, though our destinies were not entwined.
-Yc

@ YC:
Abysia was already quite crippled on turn 43 after Chris retaliated.
There was no way to keep the blood flowing anymore http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif.

Your strat was really awesome.

I browsed the game's turns.
Takes forever to do so. I wish IW will add a replay feature to the game.

My take,
I think Mictlan and Ulm worked out the best pair strategy, in that they complemented each other to make a strong duo.

Also, had I not agreed to that deal with Mictlan (which he didn't respect) game might have turned out differently.
I'm not complaining though, just wanted to put this on the table.

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izaqyos said:
My take,
I think Mictlan and Ulm worked out the best pair strategy, in that they complemented each other to make a strong duo.

Yep they had the most innovative combo.
Me + Aku wanted to do Pan CW + Ermor we didn't think someone else takes Ermor when Pan is already taken http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif