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archaeolept August 3rd, 2005 10:26 PM

Re: Götterdämmerung- New 8 player desert eye blood
 
i'm using Server adress :
ip: 69.231.215.140

port: 2001

is it something different?

ok got the address from boron, but he was marked as connected when i joined...

Ok submitted a turn. There wasn't much to do... ;p

and is there a list of what mods are being used?

Cainehill August 4th, 2005 02:31 AM

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Boron (Ermor) has been staying connected (according to the server display) but isn't bothering to do his turns since he discovered MtG, not here and not in the anonymous game. "Burn him! He looks like a witch!"

Mods, unless I'm mistaken, are all latest versions of Zen's mods, as done by Zen. No hero mod, no Retribution mod.

Boron August 4th, 2005 06:52 AM

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Quote:

Cainehill said:
Boron (Ermor) has been staying connected (according to the server display) but isn't bothering to do his turns since he discovered MtG, not here and not in the anonymous game. "Burn him! He looks like a witch!"

Mods, unless I'm mistaken, are all latest versions of Zen's mods, as done by Zen. No hero mod, no Retribution mod.

Archeo and Hubris asked me to wait until Archeo posts an ok in the Forum.
So don't ***** around http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif.

Boron August 4th, 2005 08:06 AM

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New turn is up.

archaeolept August 4th, 2005 09:38 AM

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heh, sorry, but there's not going to be much I can do to slow down Boron. Even if everyone allies, it'll be hard to slow him. we need c'tis's death mages on the front line against this scourge.

Aku August 4th, 2005 03:41 PM

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Sorry Arch,

Caine refused peace. So I will fight Caine until he is dead. Caine didnt like the idea of everyone fighting Boron.

Also I dont know wtf Caine is smoking by giving Hubris such a hard time about wanting to give up the game to Boron when he was the only one with a chance against Boron and now hes going to be dead in the next few turns.

Cainehill August 4th, 2005 05:03 PM

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Excuse me? You had the gall to propose "peace" the same turn you had taken another province from me. Don't know wtf you were smoking, rather like assaulting someone, taking their wallet, and the very next moment saying, "Hey, peace, let's call it even-steven now."

No way in hell I was going to ally with someone who that very turn had stolen a province from me. If I got the province back, maybe : but when I took the province back, you launched another full scale invasion.

And it's ludicrous you two saying, OMG, Boron is going to win, right after at least one of you had been contacting Boron to get him to help you by attacking me. So now Marignon is going down, because the two of you started attacking me instead of Ermor, and all my lovely death mages are going to have to cast wither bones on your skeletal snakes instead of Ermor's hordes. Very very clever of y'all.

Aku August 4th, 2005 06:00 PM

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This province you speak of was bordering my capital. No way in hell am I going to have peace with you and let you have a province bordering my capital. You then refused peace and that is the reason of this so called invasion.

So Caine go ahead and cast your wither bones on me instead of Boron. Even if that army dies I have another one 3 times as large waiting to go out.

Since you want Boron to win so badly I will grant you that as your death wish. I will make no attempt to stop Boron at all. In fact I will help him win the game after I raze your capital to the ground.

And about Maringon attacking you. Who knows why. Maybe he wanted to kill your miserable empire that refused to aid in the fight against Boron. You refused to aid against Boron so its either you are for him or against him and you obviously chose to be on the side of Boron since you want him to win so badly.

Hubris August 4th, 2005 06:41 PM

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Ok, I'm going to part from my usual rule of silence about stuff like this. The reason I attacked you, Cainehill, is because, honestly, your empire was pathetic. I walked through a fort, took some money from you, and then proceded to kill 3 of Boron's temples to your south (that being the only reason you haven't domdied yet, btw). However, being a newbie myself, I forgot that Boron's land produce no supply. So after killing those two temples, most of that army had diseases. Furthermore, since Boron had back attacked my fort, I couldn't double move to it. The only adjacent province that had any supplies was your capital. And, since I didn't know whether your troops were patrolling or not, I used Fires from the sky to make it a little safer. Last thing I need is lots of chaff eating all my arrows...

I never really cared to attack you Caine, you just happened to be in the way, and you threatened a province that I very much needed. In fact, threatening that province delayed my attack on Boron 6 turns.

In case you're delusional, you're really being an *** about all of this. I think archaeo would be ready to back me up on this: the game was over when I stopped playing. There isn't even a learning experience left. All there is is you and your self-absorbed, masochistic bull.

If you really want to continue this game, I'll be happy to send you the files so you can play with yourself.

Cainehill August 4th, 2005 07:34 PM

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Quote:

Aku said:
This province you speak of was bordering my capital. No way in hell am I going to have peace with you and let you have a province bordering my capital. You then refused peace and that is the reason of this so called invasion.

A province you hadn't taken in ... 55 turns, while you'd already had time and troops enough to attack me previously - you remember, when about 20 mages and your prophet died?

Quote:

Since you want Boron to win so badly I will grant you that as your death wish. I will make no attempt to stop Boron at all. In fact I will help him win the game after I raze your capital to the ground.

FOAD. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

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And about Maringon attacking you. Who knows why. Maybe he wanted to kill your miserable empire that refused to aid in the fight against Boron. You refused to aid against Boron so its either you are for him or against him and you obviously chose to be on the side of Boron since you want him to win so badly.

Nice misrepresentation - you a politician? I didn't refuse to aid in the fight against Boron - I refused to ally with you while you'd been stealing my provinces. Marignon never contacted me to ask for aid - not for supply items, not for armies, nada.

And if it hadn't been for your incessant attacks, I would've been attacking Ermor. If it hadn't been for your attacks I wouldn't have had such a "miserable / pathetic empire" that Marignon decided to also attack.

And frankly, for having just 2-3 provinces, my nation is actually pretty buff, what with ... 28 nature gems a turn coming in, and the research and casters to make large upkeep free armies, and hordes of lamia queens.

No, the both of you decided that my nation would be no more than a speed bump, something that you could gobble up, and in failing to do so, the two of you blew your chance of actually doing something against Ermor.

Side note : Hubris, whether or not you blew through those two temples my dominion wasn't going away anytime too soon; where my pretender / prophet are my dominion was quite secure, thank you very much, and I would've dealt with those temples myself if I hadn't had to keep countering the two of you - just as I'm ready to take them out (which wouldn't have left _my_ armies disease ridden and dying) I'd keep getting another honking huge army on one of my citadels.

Hubris August 4th, 2005 07:56 PM

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Well, I made the claim about you being delusional in a sarcastic mocking way, but it appears I was dead on.

Oh, and, for anyone who is actually interested in this drama, if you want to talk about what happened, or any of that crap, please feel free to PM me. But I'm not going to get into a he-said-she-said with stuffy britches just because he takes a [censored] and calls it gold.

Aku August 4th, 2005 08:05 PM

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Caine maybe it would help if you used your fingers to count. I only attacked you with one army that no where near had 20 mages because most were in my capital researching. It was more like 5 mages with my prophet maybe 6.

This Caine is my 2nd army...that is two fingers.

Also if you havent noticed I was fighting Abysia for a while as well as your pathetic empire. The fight with Abysia actually occupied me for quite a while where I did no attacks on you. Havent you wondered why my 2nd attempt on you is coming so drastically late?

Also you made no attempt at trying negotiations with me. You flat out rejected peace with no ifs ands or buts. There was no chance to even negotiate with you since you are so thick headed thinking you are god of the world. My interpretation of your rejection was telling me to go F myself, I dont care if Boron wins.

Next time get out of your little box and think globally how the game should be handled instead of petty little issues in your I r uber attitude.

Cainehill August 4th, 2005 08:33 PM

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'scuse me, but I think you were the person who should have attempted "negotiations" - I made it clear that I wasn't going to ally with you when you'd just taken provinces from me. Did you negotiate "You can have those provinces back" or anything? Errr... No.

And frankly, to some extent I didn't care if Boron wins - I wasn't going to win, in part due to you, but also because I took Carrion Wood scales and left the Carrion out of the Woods. So, being the vengeful type, my attitude was that Boron (at the time) hadn't given me injury or offense - you had. So guess who I'm interested in going after?

If I had even a slim chance of winning, I'd have played with more of a mind towards keeping Boron from winning. But as I didn't, revenge was the only goal I could reasonably pursue with some expectation of success.

Understand now?

If you want to try to beat Ermor instead of simply continuing to try and maul me, fine : get off my fortress without storming, and we can see whether or not 3 nations all with strong anti-Ermor capabilities can push him back.

Otherwise, well - doesn't really matter that much to me one way or the other, as I've been playing this out to do some experimentation (and because I didn't care to go AI just because I screwed up with my pretender design).

archaeolept August 4th, 2005 09:05 PM

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hmm, well, i'm not sure i was looking to joining in on an end game flamefest http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

really, there's nothing I can realistically do to slow down boron's hordes - marignon is a goner. If you guys declare peace, go to status quo ante bellum, w/ I guess the original province by aku's capital for aku, i'll send caine the hammer of the forge lord and I'll send aku something, though I don't really have anything else http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

but w/out a unified front, any pretense of repulsing boron is laughable - though I don't know how strong abysia is, I guess.

Hey, abysia - every 20 fire gems you send me will buy you a flames from the sky on boron's massive armies...

Ed Kolis August 5th, 2005 12:08 AM

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I am glad my empire is dead... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Boron August 5th, 2005 07:06 AM

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I am going to progress this way:
Raiding my foes down to 3-4 Provinces, slowly decimating the remaining strongholds with ghost riders/ashen angels/earth attacks.
Then aiming at dominionkill.
If someone makes a fault and moves one of his SC isolated or such then i teleport in my tartarians.

I see no need to risk them yet though because i am rather positive that my raid/dominionkill strategy will probably work anyways. This may take a while though, like 10-15 turns.

archaeolept August 5th, 2005 09:45 AM

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lol, there's only one thing I can say, and I'll try to put this gently - all of you sure f*cked up (other than Boron of course). Boron could go AI and still win. Hell, Boron could try to lose, and as long as he doesn't actively destroy his own temples, he'd still win. Everyone is looking at dominion kill soon enough.

Boron August 6th, 2005 06:12 PM

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Game is down.

Boron August 8th, 2005 08:49 AM

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Game is still down. I didn't see Hubris online the last 2 days. Aku said he seems to have trouble with his ISP.

PashaDawg August 8th, 2005 09:01 AM

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Gosh - - - everyone seems to be having computer problems.

Aku August 8th, 2005 09:34 AM

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I talked to Hubris briefly last night before he went down again. For some reason everything he does takes up to 99% cpu power and he said even trillian takes 50%. He has been trying to fix it.


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