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Cainehill November 30th, 2006 03:36 PM

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Y'know, it'd be bloody nice to have a set turn schedule, since it's obvious that hosting isn't "every time I get all the 2h files." Feh.

Meglobob November 30th, 2006 03:40 PM

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Cainehill said:

Y'know, it'd be bloody nice to have a set turn schedule, since it's obvious that hosting isn't "every time I get all the 2h files." Feh.

Upstreamedge/Adam is doing a excellent job hosting, this game has zipped along.

However, I would like to 2nd Cainehill's request for a set 48hr turnaround, we are in mid game now and my turn takes over a hour or more to do correctly. Already I have sent in alot of 'rushed' turns.

upstreamedge November 30th, 2006 05:47 PM

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cainehill, I am trying to stick to a 24 hour schedule, but the internet at my college is nightmarishly bad. I also have been in transit for a couple days because of the vacation.

Meglobob December 1st, 2006 02:46 PM

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I have just had a stale turn, my first one, not surprising since I never even got a chance to send in my orders...

I cannot keep playing at this kind of pace, so will after drop out of the game, even through I do not want too. :

I was not sent a reminder or any thing that my turn was due in...

I can continue to play in the game with a 48hr turnaround, if we stay at 24hr then I am going to keep missing turns, so I will switch Man to AI.

tibbs December 1st, 2006 04:27 PM

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Maybe we should consider bumping it up to 48 hour so as not to lose players at this stage of the game. It's hard to do a straight 24 hour turnaround time doing PBEM, and I think most other games I am in complete a turn at way before the 48 hours expire.

upstreamedge December 2nd, 2006 12:57 AM

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i moved to 48 hours

Twan December 6th, 2006 03:17 PM

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I have a big technical problem (to resume I'll probably have to send back my unique pc for repair) and don't know if I will be able to play before a week or so. If I give no news in the following days host without me, sub me or turn me AI.

Hadrian_II December 6th, 2006 06:54 PM

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Twan said:
I have a big technical problem (to resume I'll probably have to send back my unique pc for repair) and don't know if I will be able to play before a week or so.

That's what happens if you backstab innocent people http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/evil.gif

upstreamedge December 6th, 2006 07:13 PM

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what kingdom is twan?

Meglobob December 6th, 2006 08:39 PM

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upstreamedge said:
what kingdom is twan?

Machaka, probably the current game leader. His position is very, very powerful.

If he is 100% sure that he can not continue playing, I am sure someone would enjoy taking the position over.

Twan December 7th, 2006 10:43 AM

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A friend has found another pc for me, but I have a lot of things to do this afternoon. I bring it to my home tonight, install it and will probably able to play my turns this night or tomorrow morning (it's 14h in France).

ps : Hadrian you can call it a surprise attack but not really a backstab, it's not like we had lots of diplomatic relations or you had to fight another war. If I've attacked you it's because I didn't wanted to strike the giants as they are already fighting Ulm, and had far more exchanges with Man than with you since the early game. I have only 3 neighbors, so it had to be you. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

upstreamedge December 7th, 2006 11:05 AM

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sweet, btw I am upadating to 3.04

Twan December 8th, 2006 08:22 PM

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We have to make our apologies to all those who advised us to attack Man first. As they warned us, Crystalmist was unable to stay in peace more than one or two months and has begun to attack us as soon as we were at war with anyone else, neglecting the chance Dwalaki offered to him to be the last of our targets.

After the Agartha's warnings some years ago and the way he invaded his former ally Marignon later it's not really a surprise and as soon he said "rest easy friend, I have decieded to watch other nations fight and build my power up." we could be sure that he was going to strike fast. Anyway the defensive army we sent was unsufficient to stop his first assault, and just killed 146 of the unlucky wolves and unarmored lizards forming his frontline (we have contacted the animal protection society), at the price of 28 regular soldiers lives including some of our leaders.

We invite the god of Arcocephale to thank a lot his new ally as the destruction of Man will now be our main objective. Anyway, we also invite Hadrian-II not to trust him an instant.

Meglobob December 8th, 2006 08:34 PM

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Twan said:
We have to make our apologies to all those who advised us to attack Man first. As they warned us, Crystalmist was unable to stay in peace more than one or two months and has begun to attack us as soon as we were at war with anyone else, neglecting the chance Dwalaki offered to him to be the last of our targets.

After the Agartha's warnings some years ago and the way he invaded his former ally Marignon later it's not really a surprise and as soon he said "rest easy friend, I have decieded to watch other nations fight and build my power up." we could be sure that he was going to strike fast. Anyway the defensive army we sent was unsufficient to stop his first assault, and just killed 146 of the unlucky wolves and unarmored lizards forming his frontline (we have contacted the animal protection society), at the price of 28 regular soldiers lives including some of our leaders.

We invite the god of Arcocephale to thank a lot his new ally as the destruction of Man will now be our main objective. Anyway, we also invite Hadrian-II not to trust him an instant.

I was never going to standby and let you grow more powerful than you already are by swallowing Arcoscephale. You upset the delicate balance of power by trying to crush your perceived weakest neighbour, Arcoscephale. Now you can face man on one side of your empire and Arcoscephale on the other. Two front wars are such good fun...

As for my trustworthiness, ask T'ien Ch'i, he will vouch that man keeps his word and his fair in his dealings with other nations.

Twan December 8th, 2006 09:35 PM

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Arco wasn't attacked as my perceived weakest neighbor but because he was the only one I could attack without having the feeling of backstabing him. But I agree that everyone does not have the means of taking this kind of impressions into consideration, and you have probably chosen one of the best moments to have good chances to win.

upstreamedge December 11th, 2006 06:49 PM

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The noble empire of Tien'Chi will vouch for the knights of man. The god of Marignon had become... unstable (AI), and we could not let it wait like a viper in our backyards. The mighty armies of Man will not fall as long as the empire stands.

Hadrian_II December 12th, 2006 03:06 PM

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Its always interesting how a ruthless person reacts, when she notices that her actions will not get unpunished. And the god of Machacka is such a person for sure.

Longtime he was pretending to be our ally, he even offered us to help against a possible attack by Jotunheim, but the noble gigants returned on our border so there was no war. Now in a time, where our troops are trying to fight the threat by Pythium in the south, he crosses our border, and attacked our weakly protected north. As soon as his troops entered our country, the noble people of Man offered to assist us in the just war against machaka.

Now that it does no longer look as he will win an easy victory, he is whining like a little girl. The Astrologers of Arcoscephale concluded that Dwalaki is an insane god and no longer in control of his actions, and so has to be anhillated in order to save his thralls from his evil grip.

Soon the Troops of Arcoscephale are reaching the north and will face and crush the spiderpeople. We are looking forward to drink wine with man inside machakas capital city.

Hadrian-II
Lord of Strength, Lord of Metals and Prince of Animals
God of Arcoscephale

P.S. the biter will be bitten

Meglobob December 12th, 2006 03:15 PM

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Hadrian_II said:
Its always interesting how a ruthless person reacts, when she notices that her actions will not get unpunished. And the god of Machacka is such a person for sure.

Longtime he was pretending to be our ally, he even offered us to help against a possible attack by Jotunheim, but the noble gigants returned on our border so there was no war. Now in a time, where our troops are trying to fight the threat by Pythium in the south, he crosses our border, and attacked our weakly protected north. As soon as his troops entered our country, the noble people of Man offered to assist us in the just war against machaka.

Now that it does no longer look as he will win an easy victory, he is whining like a little girl. The Astrologers of Arcoscephale concluded that Dwalaki is an insane god and no longer in control of his actions, and so has to be anhillated in order to save his thralls from his evil grip.

Soon the Troops of Arcoscephale are reaching the north and will face and crush the spiderpeople. We are looking forward to drink wine with man inside machakas capital city.

Hadrian-II
Lord of Strength, Lord of Metals and Prince of Animals
God of Arcoscephale

P.S. the biter will be bitten

I hope so Arcoscephale. It would please me greatly, for us to jointly bring Machaka down. However, he is extemely dangerous, he was throwing pillars of fire around (evocation lvl 8), so tread carefully and anything to protect yourself from fire would be good.

Twan December 12th, 2006 04:45 PM

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Hadrian, we confirm that the sole time you estimated needed to ask for an alliance, or even to talk with us, was when you were attacked by the giants (according to what you said). It's not exactly the case of Man and it would be too long to quote all the messages where they spoke as our allies, from before their war against Agartha to turn 30 or so, it's why you were attacked and not them, even if their never ending wars would have offered good opportunities and excuses, and also why our irritation about Crystalmist has become public. Anyway we have well noted that you announced since the beginning that you will never negociate, surrender etc... so be reinsured we are not going to stop hostilities with you, even if Man has become a clear priority and if your mages seem unable to find the gateway spell in their grimoires to bring us some armies to kill.

Cainehill December 13th, 2006 04:48 AM

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Hadrian_II said:
Now in a time, where our troops are trying to fight the threat by Pythium in the south, he crosses our border, and attacked our weakly protected north. As soon as his troops entered our country, the noble people of Man offered to assist us in the just war against machaka.


ROFL! Fighting the threat by Pythium, when you haven't fought a single battle with Pythium's troops that I've noticed, only an unprovoked assault upon Shinuyama to take advantage of our fighting with that threat.

*snigger*

Hadrian_II December 13th, 2006 06:28 PM

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Cainehill said:

ROFL! Fighting the threat by Pythium, when you haven't fought a single battle with Pythium's troops that I've noticed, only an unprovoked assault upon Shinuyama to take advantage of our fighting with that threat.

*snigger*

Well Pythium has not attacked us yet, so the tactic seems to work. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif

Cainehill December 14th, 2006 12:25 PM

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My understanding is that the game should've hosted yesterday, but I haven't received a turn, don't see any mention of a delay.

We on hold, or ...? ( Just not wanting a stale now I have both an AI and a human player to deal with. )

Twan December 14th, 2006 11:03 PM

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It seem...

Twan December 15th, 2006 08:52 AM

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...

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Well Pythium has not attacked us yet, so the tactic seems to work.

So... If I understand well the "good and innocent" people of Arcocephale who said we should be punished for "backstabing" their peaceful and/or heroic nation only fighting for the good of all, and were officialy supported by Man because "Arco was our perceived weakest neighbor"... were in fact themselves striking in the back their own perceived weakest neighbor, and the real player nation in the worse position, already fighting a difficult war against a strong rogue state. It seems the only innocent nation in this story is Shinuyama, by the force of things.

solo December 15th, 2006 11:39 AM

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Quote:

Cainehill said:

My understanding is that the game should've hosted yesterday, but I haven't received a turn, don't see any mention of a delay.

We on hold, or ...? ( Just not wanting a stale now I have both an AI and a human player to deal with. )

Same question here. No turn received yet. Would help players to post when turns are sent and when the next ones are due.

Hadrian_II December 15th, 2006 01:49 PM

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Twan said:

So... If I understand well the "good and innocent" people of Arcocephale who said we should be punished for "backstabing" their peaceful and/or heroic nation only fighting for the good of all, and were officialy supported by Man because "Arco was our perceived weakest neighbor"... were in fact themselves striking in the back their own perceived weakest neighbor, and the real player nation in the worse position, already fighting a difficult war against a strong rogue state. It seems the only innocent nation in this story is Shinuyama, by the force of things.

The nation of Arcoscephale was forced to put some place between us and Pythium, and so we had to conquer some neutral province to guarantee security to our citizens. In contrast to that Machacka attacked us just to Pillage and Plunder our rich provinces.

upstreamedge December 17th, 2006 04:49 AM

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sorry for the delay guys, I had my wisdom teeth out and the vicadan made me waaaaay more loopy than I thought, I sent an email out and I would like if you guys would resend me your turns just to MAKE SURE I have them, I had my computer while I can not find all the turns, so just do that for me.

Thanks and Sorry

tibbs December 17th, 2006 09:05 PM

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Somehow I received a stale turn. I sent my turn on 12/11 and resent it on 12/17 after upstream sent that email out. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Cainehill December 17th, 2006 09:44 PM

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tibbs said:
Somehow I received a stale turn. I sent my turn on 12/11 and resent it on 12/17 after upstream sent that email out. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Christ. Same here - turn sent on 12/12 and again today (12/17) and yet I get _another_ flooding stale.

Cainehill December 19th, 2006 03:54 AM

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And we still don't have any comment from the host regarding the problem. FTS.

upstreamedge December 19th, 2006 03:21 PM

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i dont know what happened with the stale turns, but I think I have a bug in my game. In some single player games as well orders do not register. I am going to be making turn backups, so that I can make sure everyone who emails me their orders gets their turn in. Sorry for the technical difficulties.

tibbs December 19th, 2006 05:06 PM

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You could try re-installing the game to see if that will resolve your problems.

Thanks,
Chris

Twan December 21st, 2006 02:23 PM

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Is the game paused ?

tibbs December 22nd, 2006 11:57 AM

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I haven't recieved a turn in a few days here but I will be out of town the next 3 days.

Thanks,
Chris
Jotunheim

upstreamedge December 27th, 2006 05:04 PM

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ya, i was on a sailboat

Meglobob December 27th, 2006 05:12 PM

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ya, i was on a sailboat

Hope you had water breathing handy, just in case... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

upstreamedge January 4th, 2007 01:47 AM

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next turn in 24, or as soon as i get a turn from man and machaka

Meglobob January 4th, 2007 08:44 AM

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next turn in 24, or as soon as i get a turn from man and machaka

Sent mine. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Cainehill January 4th, 2007 02:38 PM

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Between the staling and the complete lack of a predictable hosting schedule (24! No, 48! No, 144!) I'd say scuttle the game.

upstreamedge January 4th, 2007 02:48 PM

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sorry, i was on vacation. I am back now and will be bale to resume the 48 hour host after I receive the 2 turn files I am missing. I think you should be more understanding of the fact that people on vacation over the holidays might not have a video game as their top priority.

Cainehill January 4th, 2007 03:04 PM

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Might I suggest that NEXT time you consider having the courtesy to post something about revised vacation schedules?

Meglobob January 4th, 2007 03:06 PM

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Cainehill said:
Between the staling and the complete lack of a predictable hosting schedule (24! No, 48! No, 144!) I'd say scuttle the game.

I say NO. You can always go AI, if you are not happy. ALL the MP's I am in slowed or stopped over xmas/new year not just this one. I was very happy with that.

By the way, Man (me) has sent his turn in, twice but I will send a 3rd if you need me too.

tibbs January 4th, 2007 03:23 PM

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I say keep the game going, BUT, it would be nice if any changes to hosting schedule were posted to keep us informed.

Thanks for hosting the game for us upstreamedge.

Regards,
Chris

upstreamedge January 4th, 2007 07:17 PM

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Ya, sorry about that. I am from Colorado and there was a blizzard that kept me from returning for several days. I had no internet on the boat, and could not post the revision. Next turn is sent 48 hour hosting is now resumed.

Hadrian_II January 4th, 2007 08:32 PM

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This turn looks really bad, it looks like machacka crushed me. (duh). Tho only satisfaction is that ulm crushes my neighbour jotunheim also.

btw. in one battle against machacka he casts reliev, and all the sprites go obfuscated, and my game crashes. So it might be good if upstreamedge could post everything in the bugthread, ppl need to recreate this bug for fixing. (i post there, so you can just answer to me)

tibbs January 5th, 2007 02:04 PM

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This turn looks really bad, it looks like machacka crushed me. (duh). Tho only satisfaction is that ulm crushes my neighbour jotunheim also.


What? What did Jotunheim ever do to you?

Twan January 6th, 2007 08:30 AM

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It's sad you couldn't see this beautiful battle (probably a graphic bug due to relief special effect).
Chain casted Storm of Thorns really rocks, even against big creatures, like your 20 or so Sirrushes, they were losing half their actions destroying the vines (and had their defense reduced most of the time).

ps : I vote for 1 turn / 72 or 96h, 48h is short at this point

Hadrian_II January 6th, 2007 10:09 AM

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Its not that jotun did something to me, it's just to see that other people go down too. (so that i haven't to feel alone)

upstreamedge January 6th, 2007 03:14 PM

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btw I want to give props to Ulm for turning being pressed back to his capitol around

upstreamedge January 6th, 2007 03:54 PM

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and coming back


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