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Hey guys, not sure how the hosting cycle will fall, but I'm gonna be out from Friday morning until Sunday evening. I can take a turn Friday morning, but I'll be gone for over 48 hours so if the turns should happen to fall in such a way can I petition to not have a turn hosted Sunday morning? Will be fine Sunday night...
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I'm fine with delaying the game.
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Ok, let's try to get couple more turns before Friday. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
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I don't mind a delay either.
And my problem isn't visible in the graphs :X |
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I'm going to be gone the same time period, so i'd also like a hold for the weekend.
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Just Ermor/Agrajag to do there turn. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif
Before the weekend break... |
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Agamemnon has fallen.
Good game everybody! I'll keep reading this thread as I want to know what is happening http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif Go Vanheim, go! |
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After months of building new infrastructure, donations, good medical care and lots of other good *stuff* that Helheim did for the formally enslaved populace of Agartha the clock dinged and the fortress doors opened up to us.
Our brave warriors marched into the cave to cleanse once and for all the evil terrorist golins. Unfortunately the caves were completely dark and our humble troops could not find their way and were getting picked off by arrows and cowardly goblin attacks. It was then that our smart commander had a cleaver idea. He brought out the friendly seal we had liberated from the Argathians in our first occupa...[cough] liberation of their lands. After one "honk" from the seal the foolish Argathians ran as fast they could to "guard" it. Once again our alliance with the emperor pengiuns proved useful as the guards were quickly devoured and the lands finally cleansed of their evil presence. Now serfs far and wide have signed up to gather glory against mighty Vanheim and his dark master. We shall see what a pitiful wrathful skies attack does to an our army of 2000 serf warriors holding ground before advancing to attack. We shall bring peace, democracy and freedom to this world. It will be our legacy! |
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The bloody empire continues to expand. A large force has gathered inside the scholars' fortress, fearing to meet us in the open. Our honorable priest king has no patience for a protracted siege and has avoided this province, preferring to collect sacrifices around the less defended villages. There have been ominous reports from our other borders, fantistic figures seen in the distance. Reports initially were that large groups of toops using these mechanical flying devices were deployed along our western front, but apparently these are some sort of frosty angelic beings, their wings are not mechanical, they are (super)natural! Equally disconcerting, reports from the eastern front are of men of gigantic purportions, equally icy. There are also rumors of some sort of sentient fish swimming beneath the waves, though few believe such old wives tales. There has been no hostility yet, but defenses are being mobilized as we wait for one of them to decide for us which nation will follow the scholars into the sacrificial pit.
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The night air was chilly as the three battered chiefs sat to their gruesome feast. The occansional cries of wounded men carried up from the ragged encampment below.
"That did not go well," pronounced Gerulf with more cheer in his voice than the night warranted. "Nope," grunted Korgoth from beneath a burning stare. "I heard that those Tien Chi guys are coming in right behind them. Heard that last bunch were some sort of slave army they sent in first to clear the way." "Worked," said Ervig staring laconically at the camp below. Gerulf adjusted an arm on the pile of corpses the three were using as a dinner table. "Kinda wierd the way they all just wandered off into the woods after the battle. Whaddya think that was about?" The pop and snap of the fire filled the silence as the others stared dully at Gerulf. Korgoth wiped a new trickle of blood off the bubbling wound on his face and went back to bone he was gnawing on. "Don't worry about it Korgoth, you were ugly as dog's butt already anyway." "Ain't worried," he replied. "Think the next lot will have as many archers as the last bunch," asked Gerulf as he worked the fat from his meal into his beard. The other two exchanged incredulous looks before Korgoth asked "Does he ever shut up?" "Only when he's sleeping," replied Ervig as he slammed a hammer fist into Gerulf's startled face. |
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Nice Tyrant!
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As the last flaming arrows fell, the few Ulmish troops who managed to survive the rain of fire limped off the battlefield. The Hannyas surveyed their surroundings. Crimson ground, burning flesh, and piles of bodies were everywhere. In amongst the corpses, they found the two Dai Oni who were slain in combat. Both T'ien Ch'i and Ulmish troops had tasted the blade of the Prophet. He died an honorable death.
The Hannyas ordered that the heads of the soldiers of Ulm should be piked. This would certainly send the message to the barbarian nation that revenge had been achieved. With mountians of dead bodies, the Hannyas decided that this was enough. That they had been successful in their mission for vengance, and no more Yomi had to die. The army was disbanded, and everyone went home. They knew that in the future, when people would talk about Ushi Ushi, they would tell of how his army had slain hundreds, and of how no other nation killed so many troops in one month. Victory was both lost and achieved. |
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Very nice AARs Tyrant and Ramshead.
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Announcement from Tien Chi
It has begun.
The mighty nation of Helheim has decided it is time to put their play-seal aside and to strike at Tien Chi Empire. Apparently they have spent several turns positioning their flying sacred troops deep in the back of Tien Chi nation. This turn the infiltrators got the order to attack. Meanwhile main Helheim armies are moving through Ulm lands toward the heart of Tien Chi empire. All this doesn't seem to be distracting Helheim one bit from finishing brave but small Vanheim nation, whom they have already pretty much defeated in just few turns. So this turn Tien Chi Empire has found itself facing by far the most powerful nation of our realm, who is also allied with Ulm, which is the 4th nation on several graphs. Needless to say the odds are heavily stacked against us. Helheim is clearly trying to eliminate what their perceive as the largest threat to their plans for world domination, as they informed us themselves in their letter we recieved this turn. We can't say we blame them for this. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif However if this will happen the game will be won by Helheim, without slightest doubts. This should be obvious to anybody who is familiar with uber-blessed Helheim and who has been watching graphs recently. Even before the start of the war, the Tien Chi Empire had almost twice less provinces than Helheim. As everybody know, the graphs for army strength are very misleading. Despite "similar" army size the Helheim nation has infinitely better army due to their masses of sacred glamour troops, both flying and cavalry, empowered by mighty bless of course. And unlike Tien Chi, Helheim nations didn't suffer any serious losses from the very beginning, so their have huge hordes of almost invincible W9 glamour sacred troops, with whom they can raid any uncastled province. (We knew it from the very beginning, and that’s why I’ve build as many castles as I could. But this will not be nearly enough in this situation.) So this is the moment of truth for all Helheim neighbors, as well as all other nations. Helheim is already by far the most powerful nation of our world. In few turns they will get gem income and money income of most of my uncastled provinces, since there is little I can do at this point to prevent riding by glamour flaying sacred troops - Tien Chi nation is not exactly famous for its riding and counter riding abilities. If you look at the graphs, you can add most of my money income and gem income, as well as those of Vanheim nation, to those of Helheim, to get an idea how the Helheim will look like in 2-3 turns. So here is the bottom line: Helheim has made their move to eliminate the nation that they have considered the most dangerous for their world domination. Not only that, but they did it in alliance with another strong nation. If Helheim is allowed to continue to grow, and to devour Vanheim empire and my own, they will without any doubts win the game. As a nation number two (or number 3-4 on other graphs), who is facing nation number one AND nation number 4 or 5 at the same time, we ask all other nations who would like to maintain the balance of power in our game, and to prevent Helheim from dominating the game even further that they are doing it already, to act. Any form of help - such as direct military intervention (best of all), or aid in form of water and air gems, or help with forging items, would be highly appreciated by Tien Chi Empire. In few turns most of my gem and money income will belong to Helheim, giving them huge boost in power. To all free nations of our Realm - it is time to act if you want to continue to be free. As for our own nation - on the behalf of Tien Chi Empreror, here is the Royal Decree, mobilizing our nation for war against Helheim invaders. "We shall fight. We shall fight in the mountains. We shall fight on the plains. We shall fight in the swamps. We will fight in our besieged castles. We shall never surrender". So spoke Geya, Ruler of Tien Chi Empire P.S. We understand that the first natural reaction of some nations, when they would read the news of this war, would probably be: “Great!!! Now these two scary nations who lead in graphs will tear each other apart, while we will have a chance to grow and prosper. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif However such perception would be far from reality. Helheim is much scarier and stronger that Tien Chi. And by allying with Ulm before attacking their weaker rival they have ensured that they will win this war quickly, if other nations will not step in. Like I said, add gem/money income of Vanheim and Tien Chi to Helheim, and you will get the nation who is considerably stronger than all other nations combined. |
Re: Announcement from Tien Chi
A fine speach by a noble and powerful empire.
We do not argue that if we conquered the entire Tien Chi empire tomorrow, without losses and with the game situation exactly as it is now that we would likely succeed in bringing our form of peace to this world. We wish we lived in the reality as described by Tien Chi's silver tongued leader, unfortunately the situation is a tad different. Oni surrendered their lands to Tien Chi without a fight and instead sent their entire forces against Ulm. This allowed Tien Chi an easy assumption of power all the while seriously weakening ULM (their next target). Where is Tien Chi's military loss in this conflict? Does their army graph ever dip? This turn I raided a few of their lands, how many provinces of ULM did he conquer (Again without significant loss, as the majority of Ulmish troops died to Oni's suicide). Check the oracles graphs! If we had not intervened Ulm wouldn't have lasted more then a few months in its weakened state. Even with our aid it will be a very tough battle vs. a huge empire with a MASSIVE gem income, varied magical mages and a HUGE income. Yes they have fewer provinces... If you want to double my income I will gladly trade away half of our lands. How fast do you think Tien Chi's research is going to be once all those site searching mages start hitting the books? Thinking late game: Do you want to fight against some W9 blessed Helherdings? OR Warriors of the Five elements with a W9 F9 bless, that is with 50% immunity to all elements. How hard would it be for a diverse magical nation such as Tien Chi to cast battlewide spells that brings this resistance up to 100% against all magic?? What will mighty Caelum when facing 50 shock and cold resistance troops. Your thunderstrikes which would devastate our army would be worthless! Do you want to fight a somewhat limited magical nation with Helherdings vulnerable to magic attacks, or a diverse magical nation with an incredible gem income (and the ability to use them all) with magically immune troops and powerful sacred summons that can take advantage of this W9 F9 bless. Frankly I WOULD consider this situation "Two scary nations who lead in the graphs tearing each other apart". IF we had not stepped in now, ULM would be completely overrun by Tien Chi. Then with a massive gem and gold income, access to magically immune highly skilled fighters and the skilled leadership they would be truly unstoppable. As it is they still might be... Oni's gift to Tien Chi was extremely powerful. Before being swayed by words (mine or his) I would ask that you do consult the oracles and their recordings of what has happend in the land. What do Forts mean in term of mages? What do mages do with gems? Late game what is more dangerous a bunch of recruitable glamoured troops, or a nation fully loaded with gems with high research and the ability to field massive numbers of powerful mages? We did not ask for our conflict with Vanheim and frankly were hurt when our honorable brothers incorrectly saw us as the #1 enemy. If Vanheim would like to end its hostilities against us we would welcome peace with them. |
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Are you guys playing in the same game as me? All those wars and fun your having. Here I am stuck in the 'boring lands', where a mage opening his book is the height of excitment.
Oh great Wraith why did u place the giants here and not amongst the great wars to the southwest? The giants of Nielfelheim are envious and jealous of both T'ien C'hi and Helheim. We can not discern who is the most powerful or who will emerge the strongest... |
Re: Announcement from Tien Chi
Here is my respose to the recent letter from my noble Helheim opponent.
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So naturally Yomi was more pissed at Ulm, who suddenly attacked him in the back, than he was at me, with whom he was fighting this fair 1 vs 1 war, as he asked me himself. So when Yomi told me that he had a change of plans and would like to teach Ulm a lesson instead of letting him get his lands while he Yomi was fighting me, of course I didn't object to it - why would I??? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif Would you said - "No, fight me instead, and let Ulm take your lands?" I don't think so. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif So your statement that I get Yomi land without losses or fighting is incorrect - prior to Ulm rude intervention there was all out battles and serious losses on my side. Most of my early game sacred died at this war. (BTW I am not saying you are telling lies, I am sure you just didn't know it. You can ask Yomi if you like, but I am telling the truth) Quote:
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Trying to convince people that W5E are more scary than heldrots is not going to fly for anybody familiar with Helheim. Helheim sacred are the best by far, to the point of being considered overpowered. While W5E are quite good with double bless, they are not uber by any means, and they die easely. Plus I am not sure why you keep calling them them magically immune - 50% resistance is not immunity. As I said – I would gladly trade my w5E for your heldrots at proportion 5:1, and I am not extravagating. Anyway, the bottom line is I never said "I am suffering the terrible losses, look at me!". But I am well familiar with Helheim and with the current situation in our game to see what will happen in the next few turns. What I said is " There is no possible way I can fight number one nation (Helheim) with his ally and prevent them from overrunning my Empire. So they are going to win this war and get my land as well as land of Vanheim. And once you add Tien Chi and Vanheim territory to your own, you will win the game. You have admitted it yourself in your post. And we both know that it will happen, if this war will continue and other nations will not interfere. Geya, Lord of Tien Chi |
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My bottom line is "take a look at the graphs" and come to your own conclusions before jumping to the aid of one of us "superpowers".
Megablog, weren't you talking about "fun under the waters" a while back? What happended to those plans? |
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The nation of Caelum has concluded that Helhiem is by far the most serious threat to the world. I say this because I am next to both of the nations and I have watched a great deal of their expansion. I urge all free nations to take up arms against Helhiem. The rulers of both nations are ostensibly both noble and just, but it is my prediction that Helhiem will overrun the whole of creation while Tien Chi, while powerful, could be contained by one nation. Thus, although I'd have prefered to continue peaceful dealing with my former comrades, I see no real choice in the matter. I am asking for aid from any nation that has an interest in not fighting Helhiem personally. If, however, you have a border with them, then by all means scoop up some of their land for yourself. If you are unable to do so, then by all means send whatever you can spare to Tien Chi or Caelum. We will fight to protect your lands.
My only regret is that I did not act sooner and assist Vanhiem. I hope that they will forgive me. Remember: all that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. |
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You have described situation very accurately Sky Lord. Indeed, your lands border both of us, and your flying invisible eyes have surely told you a lot about both my and Helheim nations. We are sorry we shot one of them down few moons ago. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif Your assessment of my strength and strength of my noble rival is correct. Tien Chi Empire seconds your call to all free nations to take arms against Helheim or, for those who are unable to do so, to support Caelum or my nation in our fight with Helheim. The Tien Chi Empire welcomes their new ally in this dark hour. |
Back from the Dead
Greetings fellow nations! I am the Dai Oni who was the prophet of Yomi.
After I was slain on the field in the last battle with Ulm, I was returned to Hell, my home. I have heard from those who have connections with your world that there seems to be some confusion regarding Yomi, and what it's actions with your realm were. We Dai Oni hold some weight here in Hell, and I was granted a brief leave to quell the uncertainty. Concerning Yomi's war with T'ien Ch'i, the first battle we had against each other was an accident, and while Yomi lost, we inflicted some nice casualties on there warriors of the five elements. Or I guess I should say that I inflicted some nice casualties, because I was the one swinging the sword. In fact, that was the battle where I got all my afflictions that resulted in me getting retired to spell caster duty, blech! I digress. We knew then and there that our war was inevitable. Shortly after this first altercation, the official war begun. Yomi knew that they had one chance of holding back the onslaught of T'ien Ch'i troops, who were simply of better quality. Yomi lost the vital battle and withdrew it's troops to a new location where they would regroup. While Yomi was drawing it's forces together into one large army, Ulm attacked the force and lost. Yomi's casualties were minimal whereas Ulm's forces lost heavily. Check the oracle charts if you must. A letter was immediately sent to Ulm revealing our anger, which existed for two things. One was that he was obviously trying to take advantage of a weakened nation and interfere with a war he had no right to interfere with. Two was that he attacked without declaring war. Such an underhanded move is considered by Yomi as one of the most dishonorable things a nation can do. With a new enemy, Yomi had to weight it's options. We had already lost the war against T'ien Ch'i. The most we could hope to do against them was to have a protracted fight that wasted their time and wore them down. Yomi decided that fighting a dishonorable opponent would be a much more satisfying experience, and so we made an agreement with T'ien Ch'i. Our nations, who were once enemies, cooperated with each other, so that Yomi could strike fear into the mighty Ulm and have vengeance. While Yomi was getting everything together, Ulm consolidated his forces and withdrew them closer to the heart of his empire. He was clearly shaken by the loses of our previous engagement. Once Yomi's forces were brought together, we moved out. We managed to take a few provinces with negligible defense. Then there was the battle. It was fantastic! Our horde of Bakemono archers with flaming arrows absolutely massacred, slaughtered, and butchered the Ulmish troops like the cattle they were! They managed to break through our front line, but I held them back just long enough before they turned and fled! It was truly a sight to behold! Again, feel free to consult the charts if you don't believe me. Now that I have cleared any vagueness regarding that conflict, I can offer my advice. I never met Helheim, but it was pretty easy to see by the charts that they were an extremely formidable nation. Combine the black flagged nation's power with Ulm's, since they have some sort of an alliance, and you have, no doubt, the most intense concentration of power in the world! I defy for anyone to discredit that statement! If one does nothing to stop this powerful duo who are poised to sweep across the land like a flood, then exactly what would it take for you to make any action! If one does nothing before the threat of oblivion, then there is nothing that would motivate you, and you and your people should suffer for your apathy! For those nations who see this situation as the threat that it rightfully is, I say take action now! Delaying efforts when the world in on the precipice of destruction will profit you nothing! Follow the examples of Vanheim, T'ien Ch'i, and Caelum! For those who fear defeat, fear not! If Yomi can dent the second most powerful nation, then the sky is the limit! Coordinate your forces with your allies and fight with honor and fury! Rain righteous death upon your enemies! But only honest efforts will yield results. Well, I have done what I wanted to do. Goodbye and good luck. |
Time waits for no one!
Anyone know why the game is no longer on a 48hr turnaround? 1 player can hold up the entire game now!
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Probably Graeme got around to the request to delay the game, although the immediete need for that has passed.
I'll be taking my turn very soon (within the hour hopefully)... there would still be another 24 hours on the clock (or close to it), if the timer wasn't removed. |
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Game has hosted.
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Nice AAR Ighali, Ramshead and Corwin. Keeps things exciting and interesting!
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An Appeal to Caelum from Ulm
Excuse me for sec, i need to light some incence to cover up the stench of Yomis DIPLOMACY FROM BEYOND THE GRAVE. ( spooky ghost noise )
There, much better. Now let me begin with a chronology of the actual events between Yomi and Ulm. 1) Yomi requested a peace pact. No mention of TC was made. I did not reply. 2) Several turns passed 3) TC attemped to recruit me into an alliance against Helhiem. I declined because i have a border pact with Helheim. 4) Yomi began massing armies on our border. 5) TC, not Yomi, asked me to stay out of an alleged war between him and Yomi. 6) I attacked Yomi and failed, slaying a pair of Dai Oni during the battle. 7) Yomi abandoned their capitol and surrendered all of their land to TC without a fight, put their entire force in a pile and suicided against me, slaughtering my forces prodigiously. It's possible that there are a few widows somewhere in T'ien Chi, but as far i can tell neither Yomi nor TC lost more than a small handful of troops in this so-called war. Yomis' graph went down only because of me, and TC's never did. I had a half dozen scouts on the scene and they never once witnessed a battle between flagged forces. To put it nicely, Ushi Ushi was weak in the knees and his suicide was a sissy move. As to TC's request that i keep out of their war, it was clearly a ploy. Was it was cover for an attack on me in alliance with Yomi, who was, i repeat, massing his troops on my border and not defending against TC. Or did he just want me to wait till he was done overrunning Yomi before he attacked me. (Sorta like how he wants you out of the way while he overruns me.) Check the map, he had no where else to go. Having driven Yomi to suicide with whispers of despair, the silver tongued diplomats of T'ien Chi now attempt, with Rovian guile, to divert attention elswhere so they can press the advantage they have gained against my weakened kingdom without interfernece. They wave their hands, dance tap, refer vagely to graphs and spin peculiar prophecies about future events as they attempt to focus attention on Helhiem. But their performance omits a key point- they are not fighting Helheim, they are invading Ulm. They do not even share a border with Helheim yet. Indeed, if you succeed against Helheim they never will have. Yes, Helheim has sent some raiders against TC in order to give me time to recover from my losess against TC's puppet. They have desecrated some temptes and scared off some flocks, but no more than that. We are greatful for the help, but these raids will not decide the war, my army's fate will. Lord of Caelum, I appeal to you to reconsider your alliance with T'ien Chi. Both Helheim and TC casually dismiss the idea that a fight between them over my territory will bog them both down, but you know what, that's exactly would happen. I ask you to let it happen. Let the heavily blessed TC Warriors, Demons of Heavenly Waters, and Pegasus riders fight with the heavily blessed Valkyries. I have no idea how powerful your forces are, but unless they are darn good it seems to me that you are getting the short end of the stick. You fight powerful Helheim while your ally gets to pick off yet another weakened nation and grab the spoils. How does this help you? Sit it out, build up, aviod losses, and let me try to bleed TC. You can always join in later. For me it'simple, i'm going to defend myself. Unlike Yomi i'll fight for my castles. The Warriors of the Five Elements, with their spiffy blessings and fancy pants, are going to be spending a year digging ditches and complaining to the mess hall cook about beans to eat three meals a day. Like Yomi, we will very likely fall, unlike Yomi, we will fight with honor to the end. |
Re: An Appeal to Caelum from Ulm
Very nice AAR Tyrant, as always.
I enjoy your writing style. Out of respect for it I will not dispute what you said paragraphs by paragraph, although I could. Sufficient to say is that I stand by my version of the events, it is 100% true. Yomi has confirmed it as well. Until you had attacked Yomi there was no talk about you whatsoever between me and Yomi, so there were no global conspiracy against you. And, as I said earlier, it was Yomi's request that we fight 1 vs 1 war, he asked me it himself, and I seconded it in my letter to you, which you have promptly ignored. In other words, you have brought your doom upon yourself by your own actions, when you attacked Yomi hoping to get some easy picking while they fight me. Think about it - why would possibly Yomi, who had large army and who was fighting me, all of the sudden went after you, leaving his few remaining provinces to me without fight, if not for your actions? It doesn't make any sense. I've described events of the past accurately in my post, and Yomi has confirmed it. Dead people do not lie. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif Sorry, my respected rival, but that's the way it is. Prior to your sudden attack on Yomi, in my exchange with Yomi your nation wasn't even mentioned once. You can have my word on it. I understand that you are disappointed that your plans have backfired on you in such a way, I would be too if I would be in your shoes. Geya, Lord of Tien Chi Empire P.S. In any case, frankly all this doesn't matter much for our current situation and for the balance of power in our world. I am not trying to pursue Sky Lord - he has already made his choice, and he has chosen wisely, relying on his own scouts rather than on my, yours or Helheim's words. I also think Sky Lord cares much more about who represents larger treat to the world and who is the most powerful, than who has the moral right. If so, his choice is a prudent one. Other nations, who do not even have border with us, probably care even less about this old and remote war, but they all care very much about power and threat to their freedom. Nevertheless I just wanted to set the record straight as far as what happened and why, in the interest of future historians and sages. |
Victory to the Underdog
The nation of Vanheim is dismissed too quickly. Although our troops have no supernatural quickness or flaming swords, the Dwarves of Vanheim have struck a mighty blow today against the citadel of Helheim itself. Helheim is now under siege by Vanheim armies, led by the heroic Gordon Donne. Knowing that victory in the field would be impossible to achieve without powerful magic or potent blessings of our own, two "potempkin village" forces of serf warriors made trouble along Helheim's border while Gordon snuck through their territories unnoticed until, this turn, he besieged Helheim itself.
Unfortunately, sacrifices were made in the name of this gambit. In the mountains of Vanheim, the Dwarves have retreated to their fortress and the surrounding lands left with only a token defense. They now lay sunken beneath a black ocean of Helheim soldiers, flowing inexorably further towards the western border of Arcosephale with the passing of each night. But the province of Vanheim itself remains free and strong. And as long as Vanheim stands and Gordon still lives, so do the hopes of the Dwarves. I would entreat all of my "allies" to sharply step up their aid if they wish Vanheim to weather Helheim's wrath. As wonderful as words are, the time for them is over. Purple prose does not pay the upkeep, silver tongues aren't worth the food to feed them, and the beleaguered Vans have yet to see an ounce of Tien Ch'i gold or the glimmer of a single Caelian air gem. Your empires talk a good fight, but so far it is the Vans who have been fighting Helheim alone for the past six months. Helheim has sent me an offer of peace, and I am sorely tempted to accept it, provided reasonable concessions on his part. Only the overwhelming suspicion that he would backstab me the moment my troops left his capitol stays my pen-hand. -Kong Jun She, Emperor of Vanheim and the Dwarves |
Re: Victory to the Underdog
The nation of Helheim is confused and impressed by Vanheims abilities. We had no aggression towards Vanheim and allowed peaceful trade and tourism along our borders before they attacked us without warning.
The previous month we had tentatively offered a peace (albeit late in the month) only to have our capital besieged by a cleaver sneak attack led by a glorous general. We understand this, regrettably the realities of our time regartably require and allow actions like these. Our only pain is the suspicion of stabbing a knife into someone after we have made a deal. Despite the fear over our size and effective arguments over our threat vs others we have never acted dishonourably. Sadly a peace at this point is unlikely. Our gods gardens have been trampled and only his inner sactuary remains safe and pure. We hope to prevail and if so, we will always remember the tale of Gordon Donne and his noble victories. |
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The destruction of our ally Agartha, and the fearsome power of the Black Horsemen of Helheim was a warning that Vanheim heeded well.
We were too late to save departed Agamemnon (though we tried), so we took steps to gain as much of an advantage as possible before we could be attacked: a pre-emptive strike. Rest assured that no ambition of personal gain was involved. A sane nation does not attempt to conquer a nation twice is its size and power for territorial expansion alone. I believe that Gordon's raid has give me something of value with which to begin bargaining. How could we do so otherwise, with nothing for Vanheim to offer? But if Ull of Helheim will accept only death, we can march to that pyrrhic conclusion together. - Kong of Vanheim |
The \"Strange War\"
Funny, the great war between 5 our nations has begun 2 turns ago (or rather joined by 3 nations 2 turns ago, since Vanheim has been fighting their black twin since earlier). But Ulm's, Helheim's, Caelum's, and mine armies keep growing, with no major battles yet.
So far my only serious casualties were one company of W5Es, who were trying to catch some of the Helheim's raiders near my capital. The whole squad was completely wiped out together with support troops. But they have managed to kill few valkiries and one heldrot before they died. Caelum is also stomping alone fine with his mammoths, without encountering any opposition so far. Meanwhile Helheims invisible armies keep growing as well. Personally I don't like this silence. And I don't trust it one bit. >:( I think Helheim is up to something huge, if he has been preparing it for 3 turns now. Ulm is more predictable due to the nature of his troops, but he also keep sneaking his stealthy troops inside his besieged fort. Last turn almost half of my armies could not even scratch his walls. Good thing Ulm has decided not to patrol his fort, his armies had a chance to win that battle I think. The anticipation in the air is so thick you could almost touch it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif OOC: It's almost like a "phony war" in 1939-1940, when WW2 started. All major powers declared war on each other, but for almost a year, there were no real battles. Then all hell broke lose of course. |
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The calm before the storm.
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Our goal in this conflict was only to distract Tien Chi and give Ulm time to recover and a fighting chance.
Sadly there will be no storm upon Tien Chi as our forces are no waiting in ambush in his lands. We wish they were, our generals are beating themselves on the head for not coming up with tactic described by the Tien empire. Unfortunately our forces have been engaged against Vanheim. Even this turn brave general Egil brought another force to besiege beloved Argatha. The people were just experiencing peace, democracy and true joy when these foreign fighters came and ruined everything. If not for these incursions Argatha would be a land of milk and honey like all other lands we hold dominion over. The sneaky troops have gotten so bad that our congress and senate got together and passed a new law to prevent this type of terrorist attack. From now on all bad guys and foreign troops are required to register upon entry and are given a big "I'm A Bad Guy" T-shirt to be worn at all times. This way we can see these armies coming and prepare a proper defense. Already this policy has proven extremely effective: 1.) All bad guys must register. 2.) Nobody has registered. 3.) Our land is free from bad guys!! Our government was so pleased with this result that they voted themselves a 50% raise. Luckily our elite and *top secret* order (you know the one that pulls the strings) knows the real truth. We will do anything to keep up the spirits of our people in these dire times. |
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The war is lost for Vanheim. We knew the W9 Helhirdings were too powerful to fight without blessings, but we still underestimated them. Vanheim was garrisoned with 70 Van HI, 50 points of province defense, 30 Pale riders, 1 gargoyle and 2 Van leaders- a powerful force. But Helheim crushed this force, losing only a single Helhirding and a handful of indy archers.
We will fight to the end, but, in all seriousness, we no longer believe the Helhirdings can be defeated without high level evocation spells. |
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Predictions
So, just for fun, I am going to make a prediction. With Vanheim out of the way, Helheim will turn it's attention toward Caelum. The two of them will have a war that mainly consists of flying and raiding by both sides. Unless Caelum has some powerful magic on their side, they will probably lose. Once Helheim is finished with Caelum, they will move on to T'ien Ch'i, who will still be mired in a war with Ulm. Ulm will be near death, but Helheim will come to the rescue just in time. The two of them will push back and eventually defeat T'ien Ch'i. Helheim will see an easy opportunity to take Ulm out and will do so promptly, possibly even before T'ien Ch'i is defeated. Helheim will then move further east crushing everything in their path until they meet Niefelheim. The giants spent their entire time researching and cast the powerful Win spell. So my prediction is that Niefelheim wins by casting the Win spell!!
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I've decided not to share the specific numbers; I don't want to scare you guys away. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
Helheim already controls nearly half the map- his empire goes all the way to the top of the world. Also, for any would-be rescuers, the province # of Vanheim is 146. I'm not bowing out yet. As long as my raiders are still active I'll have to get dominion killed, and that might take a while (I still have decent dominion http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif). In the meantime, there'll be a final battle in the fortress and, of course, my raiding forces causing trouble in Helheim (Agartha is sieged this turn by my raiders). |
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Hehe, how many players in this game? If were one of the others i think i'd be a bit offended at being dismissed so lightly.
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Are you always such a party pooper? There is no Win spell. The entire thing was written in jest. Besides, how am I supposed to make a serious prediction on things that I know almost nothing about? There is no telling what could happen between now and the end of the game.
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Lol, it's not just you Ram, most of this thread has been about TC vs Helheim. I have never made out of my little corner, so i have no idea what's up in the rest of the world, but something must be happening.
There's been more diplomacy and propaganda in this match than all of my DomII games put together. Normally i hate that, but it's been pretty fun this time around. |
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They actually got a history from you, Corwin, and me, and they have given us hardly anything. What is going on with the other nations? There are surely heated fights going on elsewhere.
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All quiet on the western front!
And the eastern, indeed every front.
All peace and harmony in my part of the world. All the nations are roughly equal in power, so we all sit here carefully watching each another... Perhaps building our strength up, for when the T'ien C'hi/Helheim unholy alliance arrives. It would not surprise me you know! Paranoid me...never! |
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