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Sent orders for turn 15. This is THE VERY LAST time for Man to change his mind and agree peace. If not you will face total annihilation.

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Goblyn, could you please NOT use the turn file I sent you? I'll send you the proper one later today (but before the deadline!).

Re: Newbie PBEM - looking for players. Possibly RP
 

Hmmm, so after all, you agree peace? Yes! Yes? Maybe?

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Turn 15 submitted http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
Arcoscephale's grace time has ended.
(Maybe I'll get more RPish later today, or maybe in a few turns)

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I beg your pardon but may I ask your patience? I'm going to a Warhammer 40k Tournament tomorrow, and only comeing in sunday.
I hope turn 16 will arrive today, or ealy tomorrow, and I hope a day more will not hurt that much. I promise, I will make the turn as soon as I arrive home sunday night.
Thanks a lot.

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I need turns from Abysia and Bandar Log only. Bandar log confirmed they will send the turn today.

Agartha wishes to inform that it has made an agreement with ancient tritons and is claiming the sea as it's protectorate.

Re: Newbie PBEM - looking for players. Possibly RP
 

I have sent my turn yesterday, submitting again now.

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I need Abysia's and Caelum turn now.
I got your turn Hako, thanks.
I really don't feel like sending a turn without everyone's moves, but if it continues to be so slow, I'll have to get back to the deadline idea.

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I'm really sorry to hear that, since I sent you all the turns very shortly after recieveing, but I can't send this weekend. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif
edit: I went away in this minute.

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I will be hosting and sending the turn in 1 hour from this post. I'm sorry folks for being a lousy hoster, though.
I got your turn WSzaboPeter.

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Turn 16 sent.
Abysia and Man have missing turns. Folks, are you with us?

Re: Newbie PBEM - looking for players. Possibly RP
 

Goblyn? I did send you my turn. Check the mail in which I said "here's the final version of the 2h file!".

Could you please rehost? ><

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I have your turn, but how can I re-host? I don't have a backup of the last turn. I'm sorry, i'm getting it mixed up terribly. If I have just the past turns you sent me can I move the game back somehow?

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Good question. What are the files the game needs to host, the .trn, the .2h, and the ftherland? You have the 2hs and the trns in your inbox/outbox respectively, so it's the ftherland that's the problem.

I cannot stress what a huge disadvantage staling that turn has put me at -- so does anyone have any ideas?

EDIT - Can we try just using the old 2h and .trn files, plus the new ftherland? I'm not sure the ftherland file changes from turn to turn, so it's worth a try.

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I'll try to right now. If it won't work, we have to somehow make it fair for you, ME.

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Using the old .2h files seems to do nothing.
This might be a stupid idea, but what if I'd host the current turn with only you moving? So that way everyone would lose a single move.

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Did you use the old trn files as well, though? I think you might have to use them and the 2h files together.

The problem with that is that my losses were much, much worse than I could recover in a single turn. (I would have taken some losses anyway - but as it is, I'm almost out of the game.)

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Well... Man being attacked cannot just miss the turn. Graphs now just show his army is gone. Maybe ask some veterans if any chance to rehost?

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What i'm doing now is putting both .trn and .2h files for turn 15 into the directory. It shows all of you as having turn 15, but as you didn't make any moves.

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Hm. Does that mean all of us would stale turn 15, but then turn 16 would go on without a problem?

EDIT - Although, if all our 2h files are in the folder, I don't see why the game wouldn't recognise our moves.

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I also have no idea, but I posted and asked for help on the main forum. I'm simply afraid that it's not the turn files that contain all the data and that I should have made backup of the main file.

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I'm taking the technical discussion to the thread in the main forum. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Okay, I tested it with a hotseat game. Goblyn, if you rehost using the 2h and trn files from turn 15, it WILL work despite the fact it shows us as not having any moves. What happens is, turn 15 will work fine, all of us except you will stale turn 16, and turn 17 will be back to normal.

In other words, if you yourself don't do any moves on turn 16, we should all be fine. The only problem is, we won't be able to rehire mercenaries or give orders on turn 16 (I see a bunch of them will have to be rehired on turn 16), but I think that's a small price to pay. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

EDIT - We'll probably also miss the turn 16 battle reports, if any. Still, at least the battles will work. Might be a good idea to back up the whole folder for this turn.

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So that mean we should wait for a new *.trn file before submitting our next turn then?

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Sorry for stalling, but I'm back now. I've sent the .2h file for turn 16 now but can redo them if neccessary.

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If that's okay with everyone (including Goblyn), then I guess so.

Saarud, might not need to submit turn 16...

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So what is going on then? I sent orders for turn 16. but if they are not used that's fine, I just hope the game doesn't stall here for too long.

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I havent sent my orders, I'm waiting for CelestialGoblyn to tell us what he wants us to do.

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So what's up? When are we going to get our next .trn file?

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Yeah, what's to be done? C. Goblyn, could you give us some update?

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My net was down for the whole weekend. Guys, thanks a lot for the solution, I will be putting everything in order now and sending you your turns.

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I'm sending the .trn files right now. It is showing turn 18 to me. I have no idea if you will get your proper state now.

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Well, it seems as if I had ~3 stale turns the way you made things, but nothing got horribly messed up, so I'll assume this is okay and start doing my next turn.

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Umm where did turn 17 go? I never got it... nor did I act on turn 17, did anyone else?

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Well, it's not really ok. The whole point of that 'operation' was to go back to the turn where MindElemental could do his turn, but I am not sure if that worked. As far as I can see, nothing changed and even got worse as everyoune staled 3 turns... for me that means disased starving troops, wasted reseach, and boost of gold... I can still play, cause that game is realy interesting, but I was wondring if it wasn't better just to continue while having the previous situation. But I am wondering what MindElemental's gonna say?

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Hmm. Did everyone's orders for turn 15 work right?

It looks like my turn 15 orders still didn't go through and I staled that turn -- like Hako, I ended up researching the wrong thing -- and now on top of that I also have diseased troops. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Since it looks like I still have the original problem, I think I'm with hako -- maybe we should just revert to the original situation, although WSzaboPeter would have to cease fire for a few turns to give me time to rebuild the losses that resulted from staling.

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Can we still revert back? If we can, that's fine. But let's just please start doing turns normally again either from the file we have now or from the old turn (which CelestialGoblyn will have to resend to me at least, if we do that).

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I still got the turn sent in the first case.

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Mind Elemental, I offered you peace many times. A 3 turn peace means that my attack force will suffer very badly from starvation, you will make some troops, but not enough and you gain almost nothing, while I weaken myself. Not to mention that this stale thing put me in a bad situation, but then again, that's past.

But since your loss was unlucky I offer you a very last chance for a long term peace, effective from the next turn. (I sent my orders.) According to this I will NOT attack you for two years, and you will agree the same. Moreover, you will give that fort two squares from my capital to me in the next turn by setting the defenders to flee and break the siege. I don't wish any other provinces, only those I already conquered from you and will conquer in this turn. I you think you need some provinces badly I agree to trade them with other provinces on 1:1 basis. I think that is a fair peace, since otherwise you would loose all your provinces.

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Mind Elemental, I sent you another try at hosting from turn 15. If that won't work then I'm quite unsure what to do.
Also, it's labelled as turn 19 now. I can revert to turn 18 but I have no backups from before that.

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Let's just go on the last file you sent us all, which is 18, right?

Yes this sucks, but we all got stales. I wish I'd been so lucky to have mages researching the wrong school, I had several doing nothing at all after doing rituals or moving around the turn before.

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No joy, Goblyn. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif At this stage, I'll go with whatever the rest of you want.

WSzaboPeter, if I'm reading you correctly, your proposal would essentially permanently leave you with the gains from my stale (two provinces plus the fort that I was trying to break siege at), right?

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I'm very sorry.
I can go with 18 then, myself I didn't even took loses from the way things progressed.
I can abide with any rules that everyone agrees on, if only you folks are fine with playing.

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Any chances Goblyn we can get the turn 15 sent with MindElemental's turn not processed?

EDIT:

Ok, If its not possible - fine, we can go with that as it is, I'm ok:)
Any special rules than?
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One more edit:
I will submit my turn today at about 21:00 GMT + 0, London time. Sory for this delay... work, work, work :/

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Mind Elemental, yes but otherwise you stand no chance of survival.

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Yes, we are using turn 18 I sent. Let's proceed from it and try to make it all work. Thanks.

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Okay, finally.
I'm going to do the turn 18 thingey and send it over now.

Re: Newbie PBEM - looking for players. Possibly RP
 

Hi, sorry guys, I still didn't send my turn yet... may take about 2 hours till I get to my PC - I'll send it definitely today.

Re: Newbie PBEM - looking for players. Possibly RP
 

I made a new version of my turn now, turns out I forgot some things.
I hope you'll use the new version in stead of the old one :X

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Yes, I got your revised turns, Agrajag and Mind Elemental.
Turn 19 sent properly.