Re: RZ is back
 

Patala is a grave threat in this game now. They could run away with the win.

WSP is mostly accurate with his description of the break down of our NAP. Caelum was lagging on producing the items it had promised. But it was for good reason as Caelum had attempted to explain to Man. Caelum had not researched the technology to create them because Caelum was involved in a hot and heavy war on the southern front with T'ien Ch'i at the time and needed to research other things for the war effort.

It was mostly just a breakdown in communications between the two nations. Still, it should have been easy to resolve this magic item issue. The items would have been forthcoming in a couple of turns, and Caelum explained the delay to Man due to the war research efforts and the lack of Construction research.

We did have a firm border agreement and a 20 turn long NAP in place with a 3 turn warning stipulation. Man demanded additional territories in breach of our border agrement soon after it was 'signed'. Man only gave 1 or, at most, 2 turns of warning before attacking and breaking the NAP.

Perhaps Man was seizing upon an opportunistic moment when Caelum was heavily embroiled in a war on the southern border. Man is sort of correct that Caelum was not honoring the letter of the agreement by not delivering the promised magic items. No specific time table had been set for when they were supposed to be delivered, and Caelum did not have the ability to create them. Man decided 5 turns was too long to wait for the items.

Maybe Man was looking for an excuse to invade. Or maybe they really felt like the agreement was not being honored. That is debatable. Man did not make much effort to negotiate and issued demands from a percieved position of strength after wiping out Abyssia quickly. Caelum had helped kill Abyssia. Caelum attemped to make it clear that we wanted peace and that the agreement would be honored.

Re: RZ is back
 

Setting 36 hour quickhost.

As long as Patala doesn't expand any more, there isn't any urgency in counterattacking. If he tries to go after one of us, we have to provide whatever support is needed to stop him.

I intend to finish off Mictlan (who refused my offer of peace,) and if Man can't defeat Caelum's Mammoth-army, he can't defeat Patala's Elephant-army either, so that's that.

Re: RZ is back
 

I see a huge lack of logic in several posts here. This game will not be won by whoever is most powerful. It will be won by whoever manages to get enough VPs.

At the moment Man has most VPs and is likely to have a shot at getting a VP from Caelum.

Re: RZ is back
 

Folket, that's true.

However, it's a LONG way to victory - and Man appears to be fleeing from Caelum's border.

Re: RZ is back
 

Patala is going to keep growing and could swallow all of the giant's provinces. Patala is the real threat.

Re: RZ is back
 

DrPraetorious, I'm sorry, but Man appears to be loosing this war. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Re: RZ is back
 

I would like to put timer on 48 hours. I find that 36 hours are a little to fast for me.

Re: RZ is back
 

Okay, I'll change it when I get home.

Re: RZ is back
 

New turn....anyone know why man is computer controlled btw ?

Re: RZ is back
 

I assume that WSZP decided he couldn't take Caelum and went CPU. I hardly think his position was hopeless, but I'll grant that he wasn't doing so well.

Re: RZ is back
 

After our first big battle when I killed about 420 of his units to about 40 of mine he was ready to concede the whole game to Patala. No one said it was going to be easy.

Re: RZ is back
 

I'll be on buisness travel from Apr 23 to Apr 26. I don't know if I'll have internet access during this time.

Can the game be put on hold during this time? If the delay is to long, a substitute is acceptable.

Thanks

Re: RZ is back
 

For a game of this size and length such delays are inevitable. I'll turn off the host interval - if you can get a turn in anyway, wonderful.

Re: RZ is back
 

Thanks DrP.

Patala\'s god
 

I have encountered the god of Patala. He is impressive (but he will fall). Let's make sure he does not get out of control, he must be contained.

Re: Patala\'s god
 

It's not his deity that concerns me; I'm worried about his communion, his large army, and his presumably large number of well-equipped (thank to the Forge) SCs - Patala gets reasonable pricing on some scary chassis. In Dom3, small numbers of SCs don't really work that well, but *large* numbers of SCs can be really unpleasant, especially when backed up by a communion and an army of above-average units.

The first order of business is, I suppose, to steal his globals and make sure he can't get them back. I can make both of them, but don't have the kind of gems needed to make the take-away stick. I understand if you guys don't want me to take *both* the Gift of Health and the Forge.

Who else can take one or the other? We can funnel gems to people, but whoever takes the Forge will have to agree to provide forging services for other players.

Re: Patala\'s god
 

I can cast both I belive, however dispelling them might be an alternative.

Re: Patala\'s god
 

If we dispel them he'll just put them back up - we should cast them ourselves with enough gems that he can't compete.

I have a construction bonus site so I'd like to make the Forge - but I should put, like, 150 Earth Gems in to make sure he can't get it back (at least). I don't have 150 earth gems.

Re: Patala\'s god
 

I believe that we have a sub for Patala.

Waiting on evilhomer, shifting QH interval back to 48 hrs.

Re: Patala\'s god
 

Hey guys, go easy on me will you? I know im in a good position but as you all know im not a great player http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Re: Patala\'s god
 

A few friendly demons will head your way for a visit.

Re: Patala\'s god
 

Ive seen them...

Re: Patala\'s god
 

Bah im to tired to do my turn tonight, first thing tomorrow tho =)

Re: Patala\'s god
 

Server seems to be down

Re: Patala\'s god
 

What, really?

According to my end, you're connected.

--TNDP

Re: Patala\'s god
 

Could someone else try to connect and see if it's really down? I can connect to myself but that doesn't tell you much.

--TNDP

Re: Patala\'s god
 

Might have been some temporary problem at my end. Anyway new turn is up

Re: Patala\'s god
 

I'm in Iowa, USA. I was able to get an internet connection but I can't connect to any of the game servers. Probably some firewall setting on my work computer which I won't mess with.

Anyway, I'll be home tomorrow evenning to continue my turns.

Re: Patala\'s god
 

Im connected but i cant download my turn...

Re: Patala\'s god
 

That's.... odd. What does it do?

Re: Patala\'s god
 

Its goes to the recieving turn file screen but the bar that usually fills up with green just stays blank.

Re: Patala\'s god
 

Well, I don't know what's going on. I'll try and connect from my laptop in the morning - in any case I won't let you stale.

Re: Patala\'s god
 

Incidentally, I have no trouble downloading the .trn file to my laptop.

This doesn't mean there isn't a problem at my end - we've been having thunderstorms the past couple days; even assuming a switch wasn't struck by lightning somewhere, there have been various reports of service problems on the uni's network.

Re: Patala\'s god
 

well connecting to your server seems slow but it does work for me.

Re: Patala\'s god
 

Hopefully this will clear up in a few days. If it doesn't, I'll try changing IP addresses.

Re: Patala\'s god
 

Whats happening with this game ?

Re: Patala\'s god
 

We're waiting on Patala.

Re: Patala\'s god
 

Okay, I'm setting a 48 hr quickhost again.

Anyone who can't make this interval, I'm setting to CPU.

Re: Patala\'s god
 

NEW IP ADDRESS:

Hopefully shovah32 will be able to connect. If anyone else has problems, let me know.

NEW IP: 160.39.37.114
NEW PORT: 11145

Re: Patala\'s god
 

Patala seems to show no intent on making his turn, better try to find a sub/setting him ai

Re: Patala\'s god
 

Well, I sent him a PM and he insisted that he still can't connect. Evidently the server *is* sending some bad packets.

If I can't figure out something tomorrow I'll find *another* sub or set him AI.

Re: Patala\'s god
 

It's been over 24 hours since I changed the IP/Port, and I don't know if that solved Shovah32's problem because I haven't heard from him in spite of leaving like 4 PMs.

So if I can't find another sub by morning I'll set Patala to CPU.

Re: Patala\'s god
 

The new IP works for me, no problem.

Re: Patala\'s god
 

Patala has been set to CPU.

If anyone else has connection problems, let me know.

Re: Patala\'s god
 

Remind me not to let my dad near my internet connection http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

Re: Patala\'s god
 

I'll be patching after this host-cycle.

Re: Patala\'s god
 

Turn is done.

Re: Patala\'s god
 

And the game is back up and patched. Enjoy.

Happy happy, joy joy
 

Well, the server process is frozen and unresponsive, I have a hangover and a cold, and I have to drive to Rutgers in an hour.

I'm restarting the server, hopefully that was a one-time problem.

And now my connection is down
 

Switching network cards does not seem to help.

If it doesn't resolve itself in a reasonable timeframe I'll switch to another machine.