Re: MA team game for new players, new thread
 

My particular problem was this: I tend to play my turns during the day, when I don't have net access. So I download in the morning, play the turn in breaks during the day, and mail it in during the evening, in between family commitments. A host time of 1420 GMT played havok with this.

More generally, on 24h quickhost the submission deadlines will creep forward with every turn generated until they're causing someone inconvenience.

[edit] I think llamabeast keeps archives of previous turns. If there's been an issue with turns not being sent out he might be able to roll back.

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At least I have received turn 7. Most of the others had posted it too; I'm not sure where the problem is.

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It seems rather odd that we'd have 3 stales over one turn, especially now we're out of the holiday period.

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MD, you aren't the only one.

I had same issue - could have sworn I have turned in all turns I received very quickly but somehow staled last turn - appears I missed turn 7 in my inbox.

Will be more careful going forward as I got the 6 hour warning at midnight while sleeping then woke up to find I'd staled.

Re: MA team game for new players, new thread
 

I'm happy to redo the turn.

Are we going to vote on what to do or will Falcon sort it out?

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And some people missed the turn due to unexpected hosting in new year's eve. I am not a fan of redoing turns, but if host decides to do so I will live it that. That is early stage so we have almost nothing to lose [unless someone got really nice event].

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I'm for a reissue of last turn (although I'm not entirely disinterested - my teammate was one of those who staled).

There's no inter-player conflict yet AFAIK, so I don't think a rerun would disadvantage anyone.

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It is true. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif I got all the appropriate e-mails--it just happened that the one day I was away from my computer the most during the holiday was also the day of the deadline. Part of the learning experience I guess, although of course I would not mind getting a new chance (it would be nice to find out just how that battle went)! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Well, I'm not sure if the reissuing of the turn is possible (it depends from if Llamaserver keeps an archive of the trn-files or not) but surely I can't do that. The game itself does not save old trn-files so it may be that the seventh turn can't be sent again. Otherwise it would be just reconfiguring the server's automatics. But if you can live with it, I think that it would be best to let it go and hope that the missed turns won't matter. But if you absolutely need redoing turns, I'm not against it; you just need to contact Llamabeast about it.

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I can roll back the turn, but I don't have archives of the old trn files, so I can't help if you didn't receive one (although that's very unusual). This is something I intend to fix soon - hopefully in the next week or so in fact (I am going to have a coding blitz in the next few days hopefully).

Let me know if you want to roll the turn back.

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I have my turn 7 file. I vote for a redo but won't complain if we just move on as I admit it was my own mistake as I did have the turn 7 file in my inbox. And to think i sat around bored playing SP on Jan 1 not even realizing I had a fresh turn in my box. Argh...

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I've got my turn 7 file and I think we should redo the turn but you've got to make a decision quickly...

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Well, if anyone hasn't deleted the message and all received the file, let's redo the turn. Some kind of announcement has to be made, but I think there's an admin option for that.

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Yeah, it turns out that I actually had the file... apparently, my spam blocker all of a sudden decided that llamabeasts turn files are, sometimes (but not all the time), spam. I didn't even think to look in my spam folder because my other game's files were coming in.

My apologizes and thanks for the redo.

Re: MA team game for new players, new thread
 

Okay, I've rolled back the game to turn 7, and used the admin option FrozenFalcon mentioned to send you all a message. Unfortunately everyone will need to send their 2h files for turn 7 in again.

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We should roll back to turn6 then, 3 or 4 people staled there. That is unfair to roll one turn because some people forgot about it.

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Huh, was I one of them? I'm not sure which one I missed, but I don't want this to get too silly so I'll just keep quiet and play whatever turns come my way. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Ssh Zeldor. I've done the rollback, it can't be undone, nor can it be rolled back further. I wouldn't normally roll back just because someone forgot, but I think holiday chaos is a good excuse.

Anyway, only 2 people staled turn 6 http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

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I hope that I get a really good event at least http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Remember to resend your turn 7s guys! Received zero so far.

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Can I also suggest that 6 hours does not seem enough of a warning to send turns in, maybe increase it to 12 hours, especially as we're on a 30 hour quickhost now.

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Done. This should be no problem to anyone, since the time without being reminded is still 20 hours, which is still longer than with 6 hour reminder and 24 hour interwall.

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I sent my turn in 7 twice - the first one didn't seem to take (no receipt for over an hour), though once I re-sent it I got the Llama message it had rec'd both.

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Can we postpone hosting? There seems to be something wrong with my teammate HJFudge. He did that turn but now he would stale 2 times in a row.

I think I will have to find a sub for him. Can we postpone hosting by 24 hours?

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Sorry Zeldor, I did not receive your message in time. R'lyeh indeed has now staled 2 turns; try to find a sub for him if you need to. As for the hosting, I can give you extra time because it propably would take more than 30 hours to first find a sub, get him the turn (allthough there's a server option to send it) and him to send the 2h file to the server. Sorry again for not checking the forums in time.

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He sent the last one, strange. Can you try to contact him? I have tried for over a week and nothing...

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There should be a way of rating players to know who is reliable.

I am relatively new to Dominions and PBEM games in general but a bit disappointed by how often players tend to disappear w/o any notice or quit in the middle of the game.

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Thats funny - I've actually noticed the opposite about dom players. Every now and then someone just disappears, but usually they will warn in the thread that they are going to be away and/or find a temp/perm replacement.

Are you playing mostly with newer players? Might be that the ppl you are playing against havent been filtered out yet.

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Yes, now that you mention all the issues have been in noob games. Also, I have not played any other PBEM games so have nothing to benchmark to.

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R'lyeh seems to have sent in a turn. Do we have a new player, or is HJFudge back?

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I have no idea. He had previous sent last time but didn't resend it now. He got subbed in one game and now I found a sub for him in Urapara cause he was going to stale 3rd turn and there was no word from him.

I didn't hear from him for over 2 weeks, so something is not right. Even if he is playing R'lyeh but is irresponsive he would probably need a forced sub, cause it is team game. And it would be like playing team game with AI.

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My turn went totally insane... I have lost few mages just like that, lost about 30 troops in one place, then got some strange mages that shouldn't even exist... probably nothing major, but funny http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: MA team game for new players, new thread
 

I take it you're talking about more than sirens and animists from random events here.

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My warrior got transferred into commander, some of my other commanders just disappeared. Also my mercenary shows as mercenary of Marignon in mercenary tab.

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Hey, I paid good money to out bid you for those mercenaries and now I only get them for one turn and they disappear! - all while somehow technically still belonging to me?

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I won them and spent a lot of gold on them. Did you have them at all? From what I remember you had them for 3 months, then I paid more and received them normally. So you had them 3 or 4 months?

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Besides HJFudge, another problem seems to be MartialDoctor, who's playing Acroscephale. MartialDoctor staled last turn, and seems to stale this too. Zeldor cannot contact HJFudge who seems to stale this turn too; I'll postpone hosting by 24 hours to give their teammates time to contact them / find substitutes.

Re: MA team game for new players, new thread
 

Hi, Gregstrom told me subs might be needed, I'm willing to take over until the player gets back or permanently if needed.

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On the redone turn (7) I checked the mercenaries and saw that you only had them for one more month. I bid on them and on turn 8 they appeared in my province. On turn 9 they had disappeared yet they still appeared as mine on the mercenary tab. Not a big deal, I'm just kind of confused.

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Yeah, sorry about my delay guys. I am just too pressed for time to be playing this game - I should have thought ahead of time before signing up for this. However, at the time of sign up, I figured I could find the time for it.

I will continue to do my turns while I look for a substitute.

Re: MA team game for new players, new thread
 

See Agema's post above.

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otthegreat:

Maybe you didn't delete old .2h file after rollback? It could cause that mess...

I didn't have that mercenaries before, you couldn't buy them from me http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif They were yours or Machakan and on last month of service so I paid for them and got them. You could get the new .2h file active, you would see them as mine [as I won the bid] and also in 1 month service left [as the turn was rolled back]. But I guess you have discount for them now, a bit unfair. But I cannot be 100% sure it took money from me on them.

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Agema will substitute MartialDoctor as Acroscephale from monday. Hopefully MartialDoctor may play his turns before that.

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Ok, will do. I will continue doing my turns up until that time.

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Could we increase the timer to 48 hours until monday as MartialDoctor is still having trouble getting turns in on time.

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I would be really happy to stick with 24 hours, until some wars start. But if someone really really needs it...

Re: MA team game for new players, new thread
 

There appear to be some players that have few hours between them playing the turn and sending it so with 24 hours the hosting time can be problem with some. I put the timer for 48 hours, and putting it back to 30 hours on monday.

Re: MA team game for new players, new thread
 

Can we re-name this thread EPIKBATTEL - it always takes me a few seconds to track it down.

Re: MA team game for new players, new thread
 

Done. Hopefully all notice this. Also, you can favorite a thread, so you don't have to find it again each time.

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Thanks -

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