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nothing much going on in Bogarus, but very interested in what's going on with Caelum, and how many troops they have.

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Maybe some of my freespawn zombies are defecting to Caelum. Hmm.

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more likely reason, their god drugged them. So instead of the normal birth rate for Caelum, they are now breeding like flying rabbits. On a more serious note what happend to Nerildar

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Uh...

Feeling it was weird how everyone is so curious about my nation I checked the game. I have the biggest army!

Nothing is going on with Caelum. Because of strong neighboring indy provinces I've decided to wait another turn before attacking an indy province, causing my troops to stockpile (check the provinces score - I got only one). I did not hax the game OR get awesome troop inducing events.

Please, there is no reason to forge an alliance against me at this time. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

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don't worry it was nothing like that. I was just truly curious about how you had so many troops

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Nerildar? If he stales twice consecutively, do he become AI? I'll go PM him, but not holding my breath.

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Bleh, would it be better just to get a replacement player?

However, if the decision comes down to switching him to AI or restarting with a new player I definately vote for AI. We've all waited long enough to get this game going.

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we would not restart, we would get a sub

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Although I agree way too much time has been lost getting this game started already, I doubt anyone would want to sub a game 2 turns in ( can't design your own pretender even with only 2 turns done) with 2 stales on his nation.

Isn't there a way to remove the nation entirely?

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I say we just AI him. No one will want to sub a player on turn 2, and another restart would be too painful.

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Can we buff the gold or something for a sub?

I might be confusing individual games, but I thought 2 straight stales caused *automatic* becoming AI?

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guess he is now an AI. now Pangaea, are you talking to me, or to everyone

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Uhh I'm unsure what you are referring to

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don't worry about it, i answered myself, thanks anyway

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Is he AI? Status page just says 2 turns of stalling.

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It seems he will become an AI after the third turn of stalling, rather than the second as implied above somewhere. Right now the status page shows everyone but him as having completed their turns, but it still seems to be waiting for him.

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This may depend on game setup - making him ai may need to be done manually.

I vote to ai him rather than sub. Normal ai? I don't think people know their neighbours yet so not a big issue. And last human player alive wins I say. Everyone agree? Let's get this resolved so we don't have to wait 48 hours for every turn. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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I checked with Ich and that we are going to get a sub for the game called Calahan

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Hi Everyone

I'm the sub that's been found for Ulm.

Just sent a PM to Ich with regards the handover. Hope it takes place quickly so that the game can continue smoothly for everyone, and without any more delays.

It will be my first ever MP game, so looking forward to making both new friends and new enemies :-)

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Just received the server and password info from Ich. Logged on, and all seems to be working fine.

One problem though. I don't have an awake Pretender, and I don't know how to find out what my Pretneder is. (Besides the obvious option of waiting for him to wake up)

Is there a button or menu option I'm missing that can tell me this? Played quite a few SP games, but it never occured to me that there's no simple way to view your Pretender's stats.

Could always turn it into a kind of 'Blind Date' I suppose, and see who eventually turns up. But after 3 stale turns, I'm likely to be in enough trouble as it is.

Have PMed Ich to see if he can send me the Pretender file he was sent as, at least in theory, I should be able to load it up in a SP game, and find out exactly who I'm fighting for.

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Welcome calahan! And thanks! Mictlan also welcomes your virgins, err, for sacrifice of course...

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You could try having your prophet bless himself, but that won't tell you everything.

I've run into this problem before myself, but was always able to fix it by just waking my pretender up in SP like you said. A view pretender stats button in the game would be nice.

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I have completed the long overdue 4th turn and the game has now hosted.

The soon-to-be-mighty nation of Ulm apologises to all the false Pretenders in the world for holding up the game, and asks that this matter isn't held against us in any future diplomatic relations.

And we also promise to do our best to keep better time in future :-)

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You don't need to apologize. In fact your attendance makes the game more balanced. (much better than having an AI nation) We should thank you.

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I will throw in and say that if anyone rushes Ulm early after they've staled the first few turns I'll be extremely hostile to them. Not very fair to capitalize on our new/weak player. On the other hand once things are into the midgame they're fair hunting.

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Has anyone encountered anyone else yet? Our borders are probably too far away from each other for anyone to rush right now...

Anyway, thanks for taking over, Calahan... are you getting the "game has hosted" emails? Just in case you are not, we are currently waiting for you.

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Just checked, and I haven't received any emails regarding the game.

Ich has PMed me to say that I have been added to the turn noticifaction script though. Anyone know if there's usually a setup / first email delay of any sorts before these emails are sent out?

Will try and complete my 5th turn in about 4-5 hours time when I get home from work.

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Well, you can always check the status here:

http://valhalla.techno-mage.com/stat...game=Huntsgame

You would have gotten that link in the initial welcome email. However, if you're not getting the notifications, you should probably talk to Ich.

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Thanks for the great link ghostwes. Easy to see what's going on from that site.

Will contact Ich as you suggested with regards my email.

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I have met Marignon (Unoptomized)

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Haven't met anyone, but my scouts are roaming... I see turn. 6 is now ready so perhaps this will be the turn?

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I think I added you to the turn notification script, didn't I? Have you received mail now? Look in your spam folders and white list the sending address in case they are in there.

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still present free slots?
I'd like to join as MAN
havn't played MP games yet

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Sorry but No, the game has already started

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Ich, just PMed you about my notification emails.

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why hasn't the next turn hosted yet?

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i don't know. there is some weirdness going on. if you log onto the server in game, it has rolled over to the next turn interval time-wise. however the turn has not hosted. if you log onto the turn page via the website, it shows there is still about an hour left before it hosts.

i'm guessing that it will host when the timer on the website indicates it will; i'm not sure why the in-game interval and the website interval are out of sync though.

Jomon is the holdup. I PM'd them, but I doubt they will receive it in time. the person probably thought they've already done their turn, and isn't checking in to the server. does this server not send out reminder emails?

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oh wait!!!

time remaining is in the negative, so its is passed the hosting. never hosted, and is now going into negative time. very weird. i don't know what to do. i wish jomon would do their turn, maybe that would fix it.

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Might be similar to the problem I had earlier (due to me using WinXp, apparently.) It was showing that I had not moved even though I had.

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Ich turned off (or forgot to turn on) the timer for our game, I guess.

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Anyone need water gems? I have a source of them now and am willing to trade for death gems or cash.

Kind of a funny event: a very large group of militia joined my cause. This would be great if it weren't for Ermor's little problem with people dropping dead from lack of resources. They'll all starve to death before I can use them for anything, heh. It does inflate my army count, however.

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you can still use them as suicide troops

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The server was rebooted for a system upgrade. The turn notifications script doesn't read the actual game timer from the networked game, but just operates on the time of the last hosting. If the server timer gets reset, it gets confused.

Other than that, nothing crazy should have happened. Or did it?

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nothing weird game-wise. the server was just counting into negative time.

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Yeah, that's nothing to be afraid of. But since it is upsetting people regularly I should really address it. I'll add something to my server startup scripts that will reset the counter when I start the game. Quite an obvious solution, actually.

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ive played a few games, more than 2, but im still pretty noob - i can take last spot if you guys want me too...why is ermor allowed and not rlyeh?

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i'm afraid the game has already started.

i don't know why ermor is allowed and not r'lyeh. the logic i've heard is that ermor's domkill severely limits them, or something. to be honest, i've never played either nation (because they are typically never allowed) and so don't really know much about the qualities of either.

also, because we've had a good handful of people drop in and ask for a position in the game, I suggest the OP modify the name of the thread to include the word "started". I think the lack of that signifier and the relative lack of pages in this thread leads people to assume the game is still open.

and lastly, why is there so little chatter in this game? i'm even having issues with people not responding to PM's. everyone is so quiet. this game is also quite slow, which may have something to do with that. i've always said slow game kills the enthusiasm.

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I'm not experienced enough with Ermor to be a big threat. Or experienced, period. This is my first multi-player game.

I have to wonder, though... if so many people think that some nations are too overpowered to play with, does that not suggest that there are some balancing issues that need to be addressed? Seems kind of wrong that we can't play against each other using what comes in the box...

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I've played Ermor in SP. I think basically you're able to mass troops very easily. Priests make a pretty easy counter, but Ermor's neighbours need to mass those, while non-Ermor neighbours get to stick to their regular (and more likely successful) strategy.

No idea whatever about R'lyeh...something about lots of wish castings or something?

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the reason why Ermor was allowed because their are easy counters (priests and magical supplies), while R'leyh is a completely different story. Any leader that is in their domain is going to be insane, making troop movement hard enough as it is, when combined with the fact that it is a water nation (Atlantis does not count because it starts out on land) making R'leyh more difficult to reach. This is just my personal experience that R'leyh would not work well for a newbie game