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Micah November 13th, 2008 06:08 PM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [closed]
 
Good luck winning with a man down, but I figure as long as you can get VPs you're still in the running.

chrispedersen November 14th, 2008 11:01 AM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [closed]
 
Hey, where we at in this game?

Zeldor November 14th, 2008 11:11 AM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [closed]
 
I am trying to convince one person to join as last team [Ossa and moderation went missing suddenly and deadline for them run out]. Huh, I really expected to have it already running.

DrPraetorious November 14th, 2008 12:51 PM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [closed]
 
I could ask Frank - although he's unlikely to be willing to team up with another randomly selected player.

Zeldor November 14th, 2008 12:54 PM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [closed]
 
Well, there is a place for a team. So it would be best if a whole team came [someone with a friend], instead of getting 2 random people and making a team out of them. So he may have a friend that would like to join with him :)

P.S. It seems that is bad time of the year for new games, there an insane amount of threads with people looking for subs, and not even one of them is getting filled.

Zeldor November 14th, 2008 07:50 PM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [closed]
 
Final picks:

1. coobe-ferrosol

EA Vanhem - MA Ulm

2. atul-evilhomer

LA Abysia - LA Midgard

3. wingeddog-pretorian

EA Yomi - LA Caelum

4. phalent-apsophos

EA C'tis - LA Marignon [you should theoretically get 2nd pick and team 5 third, but I think that they going with 1st and you with 2nd is more fair; if you feel otherwise I can change that]

5. gregstrom-DrP

MA Bandar Log + EA Abysia [you should theoretically get 3rd pick and team 4 first, but I think that they going with 2nd and you with 1st is more fair]

6. namad-fungalreason

LA Utgard - LA Bogarus

7. JimMorrison-MadFrancis

LA Jomon - EA Lanka

8. Micah-QM

All your picks are taken, as all are by much less experienced players, I am sure you will find some good picks among free nations.

9. chrispedersen-Kheldron

EA Agartha + EA Mictlan

10. otthegreat-Denisius

MA Pythium - MA C'tis

11. PsiSoldier-executor

EA Kailasa + MA Ermor

12. free


You can now take a look at first post and change your picks, if you wish.

Zeldor November 14th, 2008 08:49 PM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [closed]
 
BTW, map [both .tga and .map files] is here:

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?p=652800

You can erase old preponderance.map and preponderance.tga if you had them. You don't need the .map file you will have one embedded in .trn file [with hand-placed nations], but you should look here for magic sites and garrisons. I will surely take at least one more look to see if everything is all right before starting it, but more eyes is better :)

chrispedersen November 15th, 2008 12:16 AM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [closed]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeldor (Post 652817)
BTW, map [both .tga and .map files] is here:

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?p=652800

You can erase old preponderance.map and preponderance.tga if you had them. You don't need the .map file you will have one embedded in .trn file [with hand-placed nations], but you should look here for magic sites and garrisons. I will surely take at least one more look to see if everything is all right before starting it, but more eyes is better :)


What does.... ' you should look here for magic sites and garrisons' mean?

chrispedersen November 15th, 2008 12:51 AM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [closed]
 
Province 219 is adjacent to 2 water provinces - none of the other ports are.

I am a complete newbie at this.. so I don't know if this is the kind of thing you are looking for.

chrispedersen November 15th, 2008 01:10 AM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [closed]
 
Reading the map file - could really give you a huge edge in knowing what to expect, planning turns etc. Do people really go to this extreme in team games?

Also, I tried to create a game using the map, and got a 'could not find a valid starting location error'.

WingedDog November 15th, 2008 04:07 AM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [closed]
 
What about game settings? Are all of them default or what?

Zeldor November 15th, 2008 04:37 AM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [closed]
 
You have all info in first post of that thread.

chrispedersen:
You must have got water nation, there are no start locations for water nations.

And yes, everyone can look at the map. So equal chances. If you want to just test magic sites, turn indie strength to 0 and conquer all provs. IF you want to check whole map well, try DEBUG mod, pick Caelum and cloud trapeze to all garrisons and check what they have [most items are set to random, but amounts of troops and commanders are not random].

Ossa November 15th, 2008 12:27 PM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [closed]
 
I'd like to take the free spot again - team me up with anyone.

My personal favorites:

MA Ulm
MA Van
EA Sauro

Zeldor November 15th, 2008 12:58 PM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [closed]
 
Ossa:

You disappeared and there was no contact with you. So your previous teammate is in different team now. If we find 1 player to join, you can team with him. But if we have whole different team of 2, willing to join, they will be in - so best solution would be if you found someone on your own to join together with you. And you can see what nations are free in first post.

Ossa November 15th, 2008 01:39 PM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [closed]
 
No problem;)
So I see there are no more free spots left - just call me if you ever need a sub.

Zeldor November 15th, 2008 01:56 PM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [closed]
 
Ossa:

There is a place for 1 more team.

chrispedersen November 16th, 2008 12:27 AM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [closed]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeldor (Post 652895)
You have all info in first post of that thread.

chrispedersen:
You must have got water nation, there are no start locations for water nations.

And yes, everyone can look at the map. So equal chances. If you want to just test magic sites, turn indie strength to 0 and conquer all provs. IF you want to check whole map well, try DEBUG mod, pick Caelum and cloud trapeze to all garrisons and check what they have [most items are set to random, but amounts of troops and commanders are not random].

Ahh that must be it....

Zeldor November 17th, 2008 07:44 AM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [one more team needed!]
 
Huh, I will break forum rules and post in the main forum with info about 1 more player needed.

Zeldor November 17th, 2008 11:02 AM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [one more team needed!]
 
Ha, it looks like we have the last player :) So we should start very soon, just send me final picks with decision about who starts where, so I can create .map file with all nations and create the game on llamaserver.

Zeldor November 18th, 2008 02:38 PM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [starting!]
 
Some people changed their choices - you can see it in the first post. Please send me info about who starts where as soon as possible [today-tomorrow].

Zeldor November 18th, 2008 04:39 PM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [starting!]
 
As recently wishing for Armageddon became quite a popular tactic in MP and some people are not happy about that [and their concerns can be understood], I decided to ban wishing for Armageddon in that game. Of course there is no way to disable it, but I expect people to act fair.

Zeldor November 20th, 2008 10:23 PM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [starting!]
 
We have some slight delay - QM lost his Internet, but it should be fixed soon. So I hope we start tomorrow. Sorry for it again. I just hope that game will be so fun that it will surpass all that nasty waiting time.

DrPraetorious November 20th, 2008 11:23 PM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [starting!]
 
Wait, starting? Were we supposed to mail in pretenders already? Did I miss something?

atul November 21st, 2008 04:03 AM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [starting!]
 
I assume by "starting" Zeldor means he sets up the game to llamaserver and we start mailing in our pretenders.

...I hope...

Zeldor November 21st, 2008 06:18 PM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [starting!]
 
Ok, game is created on llamaserver. You can send pretenders in, you can get all details at llamaserver. Game name is Preponderance. We are still waiting for QM to get his internet fixed :( I hope it happens soon [yep, I talked with llamabeast, I can update map file even after creating the game].

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo....=Preponderance

vfb November 21st, 2008 07:16 PM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [starting!]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeldor's email:
don't abuse your partners

Ha ha ha :D

By the way, the llamaserver shows:

Mods: Single Age Mod, Conceptual Balance Complete 1.3, Streamers & Standards, Single Age Complete, Banned Spells

Why is there both a "Single Age Mod" and "Single Age Complete"? Aren't they the same thing? (SingleAgeComplete.dm)

Zeldor November 21st, 2008 07:27 PM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [starting!]
 
Use the one you have in the first post. I PMed llamabeast already, there is just one mod, it's some display error only.

PsiSoldier November 21st, 2008 10:23 PM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [starting!]
 
I already PM'd Zeldor and he kind of responded but I thought I'd post on the game thread as well. I will be gone to my grandmother's house for Thanksgiving from Wed. to Sunday of this coming thanksgiving week.

I'd imagine some other's from here will likely be away from home and unable to access Dom3 over thanksgiving as well so I was requesting a delay of the turns over the holiday weekend. Assuming we can get started before then which I hope we can.

DrPraetorious November 23rd, 2008 02:43 PM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [starting!]
 
Incidentally, I predict that Micah+QM will be the two Caelums combined (MA and LA) and that we are all so hosed.

Zeldor November 23rd, 2008 03:22 PM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [starting!]
 
That was their 3rd choice actually. And unless they change it, they will go with that :)

Gregstrom November 23rd, 2008 03:28 PM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [starting!]
 
Quick everybody; take an A9 bless!

atul November 25th, 2008 01:56 PM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [starting!]
 
Now that I finally stopped sitting on my hands and uploaded my pretender, all I have to ask: What's taking so long? Action, people, action!

14 ready, 10 to go, /me starts the annoying routine all again.

Zeldor November 25th, 2008 05:03 PM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [starting!]
 
Ok, I have a confirmation that Micah + QM are going with MA + LA Caelum. So I will replace the .map file with corrent one [and found one missing neighbour]. I will send out reminder e-mail to those that didn't send their pretenders in.

PsiSoldier November 25th, 2008 10:34 PM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [starting!]
 
Ok I hope that the game start can be delayed as we are now getting into the Thanksgiving Weekend. I will be leaving tommorow and gone until late Sunday night. At this current rate it could be after that before all these slackers get there damn pretenders sent in to lammaserver. But in the event that people get off their *** and send them in I am requesting that the start of the game be delayed until Monday.

Zeldor November 25th, 2008 11:03 PM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [starting!]
 
Of course, I don't really understand what is that holiday about [except eating and shopping :P], but let's start the game on Monday [auto-start is turned off].

DrPraetorious November 25th, 2008 11:53 PM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [starting!]
 
We can start early as long as the host interval is set to infinity. Perhaps set it to 24h once the first turn is completed? This'll give people time to deal with technical issues, should any arise.

JimMorrison November 26th, 2008 01:15 AM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [starting!]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeldor (Post 655619)
Of course, I don't really understand what is that holiday about [except eating and shopping :P], but let's start the game on Monday [auto-start is turned off].

Well the point is to celebrate how we found this wonderfully bountiful land to live in, and how the native inhabitants helped us survive the first winter, so that we could manage to later carry out our master plans of genocide, to become the wealthiest nation on Earth.

Alternately, I most just celebrate what an amazing cook my mother is, and try to enjoy the long stretch of the winter holidays that I don't much "feel".

At any rate, Thanksgiving is all about family now, and so most people in the US do travel for it, or are otherwise busy if they are the hosts.

atul November 26th, 2008 04:16 AM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [starting!]
 
Eating a lot and being with the family? Isn't that what Christmas is for? You guys are a month early.

Anyway, the first turn without set host schedule would be wise anyway so that everyone can get the first turn in would be advisable anyway. Not that it would matter much, but I just would like to get the game into 20ish turn by Christmas and to 48h-host since I'll be kicked out of my home 1st of Jan and that might complicate things....

PsiSoldier November 26th, 2008 11:48 AM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [starting!]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPraetorious (Post 655630)
We can start early as long as the host interval is set to infinity. Perhaps set it to 24h once the first turn is completed? This'll give people time to deal with technical issues, should any arise.

Yeah what he said.. I guess thats better than just delaying the start.

Zeldor November 26th, 2008 10:55 PM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [starting!]
 
BTW, Some hint about central Island. There are only 6 commanders + 25 Crushers in the beginning. But 4 of that commanders [2 Celestial Generals, 2 Lords of War] spawn troops of east and west. So if you don't conquer it for a very long time you can get that:

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/8955/eternialw7.jpg

atul November 27th, 2008 07:56 AM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [starting!]
 
Too bad indy troops won't starve...

...in other news, only 2 pretenders to be uploaded.

Gregstrom November 27th, 2008 10:22 AM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [starting!]
 
Indies can starve, I believe. Looks like a really good target for Master Enslave if you ask me.

Zeldor November 27th, 2008 12:01 PM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [starting!]
 
In places where starving issues could occure I added supply items :)

atul November 28th, 2008 12:59 AM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [starting!]
 
Zeldor, every contignency accounted for? You've spent too much time with this. :)

Every pretender in, when do we get the first turn? :)

Zeldor November 28th, 2008 01:09 AM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [starting!]
 
All pretenders in. I'd just like to get final confirmation from llamabeast that that info about 2x single age mod is just a display error and that it won't crash the game. But if he does not arrive till like 11AM GMT time I will take the risk and start the game [with deadline on Monday].

Zeldor November 28th, 2008 02:43 PM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [starting!]
 
Ok, game is started. Check if everything is fine:
- if you started near your teammate (I tested it, so there shouldn't be any problems)
- if VPs are correct [1 in every capital, 2 on the island]
- if your pretender is fine
- if there are no problems with mods

First turn is on 72h timer. Later we are going with 24 timer, probably without any delays until Chrismas and 48h timer after few day break for Chrismas [probably 24.12-1.1].

Zeldor November 28th, 2008 03:16 PM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [starting!]
 
It looks like the game has crashed instead of starting. I sent a PM to llamabeast.

WingedDog November 30th, 2008 04:11 PM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [starting!]
 
Any news yet?

JimMorrison November 30th, 2008 04:16 PM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [starting!]
 
The news is, we're all suckers! :shock: Zeldor has taken all of the money for the team uniforms, and run off to Mexico! :mad:

WingedDog November 30th, 2008 04:50 PM

Re: Preponderance - Big Team Game! [starting!]
 
Damn! So many oulaws run to Mexico, I wonder if there's still space for Mexican outlaws! :shock:


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