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JimMorrison January 6th, 2009 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanslime (Post 664543)
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Originally Posted by JimMorrison (Post 663962)

Bandar Log announces formal declaration of war against Atlantis. Have at thee, salty dogs! Errr, fish! Yeah, salty fish! Mmmmm.

In other news, we are proud to announce the founding of Bandar Mail Order Kippered Snacks. They're Salty Love In A Tin!™.

Kick a squid while he's down, will you?

Lord Bymak, Defender of Atlantis is well on the way to recovery, and is ready to take you cheeky monkeys on, anytime, anywhere.

...By the way, how do you plan to invade?


Monkeys can fly, of course! If you didn't know that, we'll show you. Well, someday..... when we figure out where you are..... and forge some winged boots. >.>

Vanslime January 7th, 2009 12:30 AM

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We will take you on your word, thank you.

Let us know when you invent scuba monkeys.

JimMorrison January 7th, 2009 03:46 AM

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We have a mole, shut down the Project. Repeat: we have a mole, terminate all test subjects in Project Piranha, we have been compromised.

:doh:

Juffos January 9th, 2009 02:19 AM

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We are all aware that the senses can be deceived, the eyes fooled.
But how can we be sure our senses are not being deceived at any
particular time, or even all the time? Might I just be a brain in
a tank somewhere, tricked all my life into believing in the events
of this world by some insane computer? And does my life gain or lose
meaning based on my reaction to such solipsism?
^
^ -- Project PYRRHO, Specimen 46, Vat 7
^ Activity Recorded M.Y. 2302.22467
^ TERMINATION OF SPECIMEN ADVISED

AdmiralZhao January 9th, 2009 04:26 AM

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I don't suppose we could get another extension for Ermor?

AdmiralZhao January 9th, 2009 04:32 AM

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Oh, and if anyone could sell me a ring of water breathing, a death booster, or some more water boosters, it would be very helpful in the war against Ashdod.

cleveland January 9th, 2009 10:45 AM

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Now hear this: R'lyeh has joined the Axis of Ashdod.

In a cleaver effort to disguise their allegiance, R'lyeh cleaverly had a starspawn Lost in Time-and-Space with secret orders to cleaverly emerge for a strike at the Machakan heartland during the desperate hours of the Vanheim crusade.

So Machaka declares war on R'lyeh.

We ask all nations to stand with us against the Ashdod-Vanheim-R'lyeh trinity, whose power will shortly become unstoppable otherwise.

Or at least to tell us where they are.

And any ideas on how to adapt a monkey scuba suit onto a giant spider would be greatly appreciated.

:D

Vanslime January 9th, 2009 08:20 PM

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Have no fear, spider-lovers, for Lord Bymak, Defender of Atlantis, shall soon lead our armies to battle against the squidheads of R'lyeh, in the southern ocean!

Lord Bymak is staggered to hear of such cowardice from his sworn enemy, and extends to Machaka the tentacle of peace. After all, spiders and octopi both have eight limbs; this must be a sign!

AdmiralZhao January 10th, 2009 11:04 AM

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So, what's the situation with Ermor? Lockean, do you need an extension? That would be fine with me, if it brings back one of the founding members of the Anti-Ashdod Alliance. Or, if you want a sub instead, I'd be happy to do some recruiting.

Ashdod must be destroyed.

Zapmeister January 10th, 2009 08:38 PM

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Lokean has gone AWOL in another game (Faltering Steps) as well. It's worse there, because he's the admin.

Pelthin January 10th, 2009 09:21 PM

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Man has joined the Ant-Ashod alliance..Of course we are getting our butt's handed to us by like 3 of his giants against most of my armed force, but <shrug> at least we took a stand. :)

Jazzepi January 11th, 2009 02:00 AM

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Caelum is looking for cauldrons of broth, or even wine bags. Have nature/air gems to trade.

Would also like to pickup death, nature, water, astral, and earth boosters. Willing to pay gems.

Jazzepi

Juffos January 11th, 2009 05:56 AM

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According to graphs, I am THE bane of this world. I hope your passivity will not destroy this game :)

AdmiralZhao January 11th, 2009 10:05 AM

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Arco's research lead is quite daunting... :)

DonCorazon January 11th, 2009 12:39 PM

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Heh...that is just theory. What is daunting though is Shinuyama's lead in provinces and most importantly, gems - the fuel of all that is good and powerful. :)

AdmiralZhao January 12th, 2009 01:32 AM

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Well, that would be Ermor's 5th stale. Juffos, could you please set them to AI?

Juffos January 12th, 2009 02:27 AM

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Done.

AdmiralZhao January 12th, 2009 02:41 AM

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Thanks!

Juffos January 12th, 2009 05:13 AM

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Please let me know if you notice someone staling, because I often forget to regularly check the staling data from llamaserver.

Lokean January 12th, 2009 09:20 AM

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I am not going to be able to continue the game. Sorry, but RL troubles have scfrewed me

Jazzepi January 12th, 2009 04:54 PM

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Caelum is going to need two banners of the northern star. Message me on the forums to talk prices.

Jazzepi

Vanslime January 13th, 2009 03:31 AM

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It is with the utmost sorrow that we learn that Lord Bymak, Defender of Atlantis, perished today protecting our soldiers as they bravely ran away from cowardly R'lyeh.

While Bymak's death may not be definite, it has been decided that is position shall be passed on to Lord Batux, Defender of Atlantis in waiting. Lord Bymak shall from now on be known as Defender of Atlantis,Emeritus.

In more cheerful news, Th'yogh, prophet of R'lyeh, took part in that battle.

Now he ded from shark.:D

cleveland January 13th, 2009 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanslime (Post 666544)
It...

:D

In other news, Vanheim has taught Machaka a valuable lesson about spacing combat mages. Coincidentally, Machaka has taught Vanheim a valuable lesson about worshiping human pretenders. :)

Toran January 13th, 2009 11:24 AM

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Lessons... lessons.... we're not in school, but in the sensation hungry public - we want pictures, names, or at least a few limbs or what else is left of the victims...!!

zlefin January 13th, 2009 11:41 AM

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mortimer, high accountant of r'lyeh, has decided that shark futures are on the rise; new investments shall accomodate this expected change in value.
mortimer would also like to express his enjoyment of this turn's battle, and looks forward to more battles in the futures market.
As to our 3rd prophet, mortimer has no doubt that a suitable victim, err candidate, will be found at an appropriate time.

jimkehn January 13th, 2009 03:03 PM

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As for Agartha, we are feasting on leg of Centaur.

Incabulos January 13th, 2009 03:19 PM

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Does centaur taste like monkey?

JimMorrison January 13th, 2009 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Incabulos (Post 666682)
Does centaur taste like monkey?

The dark meat tastes like horse, the light meat tastes like people. :shock:

Vanslime January 13th, 2009 07:10 PM

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I hear people kind of tastes like pork.

...No, I do not know this from experience.

...or do I? :eek:

AdmiralZhao January 14th, 2009 02:23 AM

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You know what they say about Chlorolera...

Juffos January 14th, 2009 09:12 AM

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With the annihilation of Ashdod's armies, the triumph of Shinuyama seems inevitable. Now they have easy access to the capitals of T'ien C'hi (which they have already captured), ours, Mictlan, Ermor and Man, whom both I have weakened critically with raiding. Six capitals, exactly the amount required for ascencion.

You showed excellent ability to coordinate your attacks upon one target, whom you succesfully eliminated. You have made me proud of you. But another threat lingers ahead, will you be able to withstand it too? The graphs...

Pelthin January 14th, 2009 09:20 AM

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Now don't count Man, or any of the others of us out. You still have those damn Leaders floating around in my area, and even though I destroyed 19 of those giant things, at the loss of over 100 of my infantry, I still have a stronghold with a second army.

And I am still worried about your strength.


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Originally Posted by Juffos (Post 666907)
With the annihilation of Ashdod's armies, the triumph of Shinuyama seems inevitable. Now they have easy access to the capitals of T'ien C'hi (which they have already captured), ours, Mictlan, Ermor and Man, whom both I have weakened critically with raiding. Six capitals, exactly the amount required for ascencion.

You showed excellent ability to coordinate your attacks upon one target, whom you succesfully eliminated. You have made me proud of you. But another threat lingers ahead, will you be able to withstand it too? The graphs...


JimMorrison January 14th, 2009 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Juffos (Post 666907)
With the annihilation of Ashdod's armies, the triumph of Shinuyama seems inevitable. Now they have easy access to the capitals of T'ien C'hi (which they have already captured), ours, Mictlan, Ermor and Man, whom both I have weakened critically with raiding. Six capitals, exactly the amount required for ascencion.

You showed excellent ability to coordinate your attacks upon one target, whom you succesfully eliminated. You have made me proud of you. But another threat lingers ahead, will you be able to withstand it too? The graphs...


I'm confused, we actually started a game this huge, with victory condition of 6 VPs?

Sort of makes me not want to bother making up a turn at this point, as there is realistically no time to stop Shinuyama's momentum, unless everyone were to attack him right now together.

Raise your hands if you have a formal NAP with Shinuyama. :up:

Incabulos January 14th, 2009 08:04 PM

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:rock:

Jazzepi January 14th, 2009 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JimMorrison (Post 667053)
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Originally Posted by Juffos (Post 666907)
With the annihilation of Ashdod's armies, the triumph of Shinuyama seems inevitable. Now they have easy access to the capitals of T'ien C'hi (which they have already captured), ours, Mictlan, Ermor and Man, whom both I have weakened critically with raiding. Six capitals, exactly the amount required for ascencion.

You showed excellent ability to coordinate your attacks upon one target, whom you succesfully eliminated. You have made me proud of you. But another threat lingers ahead, will you be able to withstand it too? The graphs...


I'm confused, we actually started a game this huge, with victory condition of 6 VPs?

Sort of makes me not want to bother making up a turn at this point, as there is realistically no time to stop Shinuyama's momentum, unless everyone were to attack him right now together.

Raise your hands if you have a formal NAP with Shinuyama. :up:

Is there any way we can scale back the # VP win conditions? It's far too low.

Jazzepi

JimMorrison January 14th, 2009 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jazzepi (Post 667089)
Is there any way we can scale back the # VP win conditions? It's far too low.

Jazzepi


That sounds like a lovely idea. But it is set in-game, so when you find a way to hack the fthrlnd file to raise the bar, let us know. <3

DonCorazon January 14th, 2009 08:43 PM

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Can we add a few hours to the deadline tonight? This game is suffering quickhost drift makes it hard for a west coaster that works late. Thanks!

Incabulos January 14th, 2009 08:53 PM

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I am in the same boat, west coaster working later means I have problems since I have to jump on the game the moment I get home and then have a very little window of opportunity before it hosts.

AdmiralZhao January 14th, 2009 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JimMorrison (Post 667094)
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Originally Posted by Jazzepi (Post 667089)
Is there any way we can scale back the # VP win conditions? It's far too low.

Jazzepi


That sounds like a lovely idea. But it is set in-game, so when you find a way to hack the fthrlnd file to raise the bar, let us know. <3

I'd be fine with this. Will the game let you continue playing even after you've hit 6 VPs? That might be the easiest option.

AdmiralZhao January 14th, 2009 09:51 PM

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Shinuyama was expecting a bit more gratitude after spending so much blood and treasure to help stop the Ashdod threat. If we hadn't grown and taken provinces, the giants would be stomping over us like they have been doing to Mictlan, Tien Chi, Ermor and Man. Still, in order to avoid any sort of unpleasantness with our neighbors, we are willing stop our growth. We will try to take Ashdod's capital and its surrounding provinces in order cut off the flow of giant SCs, but other than that we will not expand further.

JimMorrison January 14th, 2009 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AdmiralZhao (Post 667115)
Shinuyama was expecting a bit more gratitude after spending so much blood and treasure to help stop the Ashdod threat. If we hadn't grown and taken provinces, the giants would be stomping over us like they have been doing to Mictlan, Tien Chi, Ermor and Man. Still, in order to avoid any sort of unpleasantness with our neighbors, we are willing stop our growth. We will try to take Ashdod's capital and its surrounding provinces in order cut off the flow of giant SCs, but other than that we will not expand further.

Well it's sort of a moot point, and in general terms, it was a great thing that someone was able to step up to Ashdod, and lay down some smack.

But in the specific scenario of the game, really there are only 2 outcomes, you could fall asleep and not notice someone else hit the painfully small VP limit, or you could play the sleeping dragon and let people fart around for a couple of years while you develop your impressive lead into an unstoppable force, and then win anyways. Personally, I'd rather just have it over, and be able to start a similar scenario on the same map perhaps. ;)

And no, the game won't let us continue, a True God will ascend at 6 VPs, and we will receive a final turn, our pretenders and empires obliterated for all of time and history.

Juffos January 15th, 2009 02:11 PM

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I put the low vp requirement for victory in order to activate players. In some games I have been, player passivity has been extremely frustrating, and I decided to try to find out whether players will be more active on the diplomatic front if letting some player gather an insurmountable lead would result in quick defeat. You can think it as some kind of a social experiment.

Also, the hosting interval is now 48 hours. This ought to help our North American players.

JimMorrison January 15th, 2009 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Juffos (Post 667303)
I decided to try to find out whether players will be more active on the diplomatic front if letting some player gather an insurmountable lead would result in quick defeat.

Well, an interesting experiment, though Shinuyama started in a -corner- with vast stretches of unclaimed land nearby. I think this concept would work better with at least preset starting locations, so some people don't get all crammed together (myself, Arco, Jotun, Abysia, Ulm, Marignon are all clustered tightly, for example), while others can travel 8 provinces in one direction before meeting a neighbor. It creates an environment where the tightly packed people are at eachothers' throats already, giving time for the others to expand rapidly through indies. And then we're on what, turn 27? And the game is all but won by Shinuyama, whose amazing recruit-anywhere mages, and monstrous economy can crush 6 capitals in no time, since he is safe on 2 sides, so can never be properly gangbanged.

DonCorazon January 15th, 2009 09:06 PM

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Yeah, I am done playing non-wrap around maps after this one. I am surprised though that Shin has been so unstoppable. Admittedly, Arcos signed a NAP with them a while ago so we haven't done our part, but we never thought their province count would just keep running up like it has.

Not sure that the game is "all but won" by Shin but we have no intel up north so just have to take people's word for it.

JimMorrison January 15th, 2009 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DonCorazon (Post 667396)
Not sure that the game is "all but won" by Shin but we have no intel up north so just have to take people's word for it.

Well, do you have anything that can stand up to his sheer numbers?

What about after the losses you might expect to take against Bandar Log?

What about when the war with Bandar is over, and Shinu has had all that time to build and train, and prepare for the war that you and Jotun will bring to him once you are done with me (according to "the plan")? ;)

Zhao is going to win. If he claims the rest of what Ashdod has, he'll be at 4 capitals already, with income+gems far beyond anyone else, and with research that is even rivaling yours now. If he were a less experienced player (like me, or even less so!), then I'd agree it's still a bit up in the air, but as it sits I'm having a hard time imagining the game making it to year 5 before a Shinuyama victory occurs.

AdmiralZhao January 15th, 2009 09:30 PM

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The sage of Bandar Log speaks the truth. The only reasonable course of action at this point is to fall into apathy and despair. Please do not spend more than 5 minutes on your turns as that would just be a waste of time.

Jazzepi January 15th, 2009 09:36 PM

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It's actually quite frustrating to have such a low VP count for winning. Generally I dislike VP victory conditions anyways, as they tend towards the "artifical grab capitals" approach which has nothing to do with really dominating the game.

I'm over on the west, and have had no involvement with what's going on in the east, but the game might just end before I've even had a chance. What a waste of time =\ I really wouldn't have joined if I had noticed the VPs were so low.

Jazzepi

DonCorazon January 15th, 2009 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JimMorrison (Post 667399)
Well, do you have anything that can stand up to his sheer numbers?

Magic! And uh, how many nations are still left?

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Originally Posted by JimMorrison (Post 667399)
What about after the losses you might expect to take against Bandar Log?

What losses? :)

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Originally Posted by JimMorrison (Post 667399)
Zhao is going to win. If he claims the rest of what Ashdod has, he'll be at 4 capitals already, with income+gems far beyond anyone else, and with research that is even rivaling yours now. If he were a less experienced player (like me, or even less so!), then I'd agree it's still a bit up in the air, but as it sits I'm having a hard time imagining the game making it to year 5 before a Shinuyama victory occurs.

Games not over til the fat lady sings.

JimMorrison January 15th, 2009 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DonCorazon (Post 667403)
Games not over til the fat lady sings.

That's no lady, that's my wife!

:happy:

And you're right, with 5 more turns of NAP, the Bandar will either be completely hip-deep in giants, or wiped out anyway, and you will get to attack undefended territories, as our reward for sparing your miserable Arcoscephalian lives. ;)

Interesting to note how often I have been stabbed in the kidneys after showing mercy in MP games (here and other games entirely), I suppose it's a response that I must condition myself against.

I think a lot of us have wasted our time here, Jazz. I feel ya. <3

Incabulos January 15th, 2009 10:30 PM

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Heh I wasn't sure on the protocol since I had no contact with Bandar. Is it generally considered good form to declare you will be at war the floowoing turn. So that you have a single turn in which to make some adjustments (the turn you get the message) I.E get a message the same turn in which I set my troops to attack you?



I also had little notion that the vp conditions were so low.


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