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Lupus is back at the frosty helm of Neifelhiem so you may return to your regularly scheduled lamentations of the women. Have fun guys!

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I need some delay too, please. (24h)

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sorry, did not see your request

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ok, i have set the game back to 48h timer.

p.s. i am finally death, fighting fomoria, ctis and marveni at the same time in the end was too much for yomi. So now would be the time for someone else to take over as admin, especially as i will be away for 5 weeks starting the 14. january.

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I think I can take the admining, I never did it with llamaserver game but I hosted some ordinary PBEM games in past years. I check the forums at least every 10 hours so I hope there will be no problems with missed delay requests. Also I don't know other players' opinion but I prefer to move to 72h schedule instead of 48.

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Thanks for setting up the game and adminning, Hadrian!

I dunno about 72h. I could certainly use that time, however every 72h game I've been in the players have lost interest rapidly after going to that timing. Seems to me that beyond 48hrs people stop thinking about the game.

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My apologies, because I know this goes against the Player's Pledge, but could someone switch Tir Na Nog to AI? There's nothing I can do; I'm stuck in a single fort besieged by a hero I can't beat, but because it's just the single hero, he can't do any damage to the walls. So all I do is load the turn and send it back.

Thanks.

And apologies to those who have sent me PMs; there was an illness and then death in my family, and it's made things a bit difficult for the past few months.

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No one would blame you for going AI in that situation.

You can do it yourself, just go to options>become computer controlled and send the turn in.

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I received the admin pass so now you can direct admin requests to me :) So what other players think about 72h? We have only 2 votes so far.

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Sounds good to me.

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Can I please get an extension on this turn? I had planned to do my turn tonight but instead ended up having a 4 hour long raging argument with an ex-girlfriend. I'm exhausted and can't concentrate even in the slightest. I'd really appreciate some more time...

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Postponed by 24h by Ironhawk's request.

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Somehow it still shows old hosting time. I'll try to postpone again. Can someone experienced with llamaserver games admining tell if it's normal behavior?

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I have heard that sometimes you have to give the Llamaserver commands twice before they take effect. Probably best bet is to make a command, wait 10 minutes, and if it has not worked, do it again.

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Hey guys, sorry about the stales. Had a massive computer failure and haven't managed to get online since before christmas.

I'll be back within the next week, if my seas haven't been completely gobbled in the meantime.

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I think we should wait for Ishamoridin now that we know that he's going to reappear. He already has 2 stales in a row. I'll add 24h now and tomorrow if needed.

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No news from Ishamoridin yet. I'll add another 24 now.

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This is the fourth time Ryleh has staled. I appreciate that he is having computer problems but we should probably begin looking for a replacement so that the game can move on?

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While, obviously, I would prefer not to be replaced, I'd advise you to do so if possible. I can get online every couple of days, but my home PC is still MIA and I'm not sure when I'll have it back now.

Apologies for the situation.

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Should I start a special thread and pause the game while we're looking for sub? In our community we had no sub practice so I don't have admining experience regarding that.

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Yes, that would be the right way to do it.

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I have volunteered to take over the position as the DARK LORD OF R'LYEH. Dark, because it's pretty damn dark down here in the depths!

So... Let's see what I can do down here!

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Whoa whoa !!!!

I was just informed in IRC that Marverni was set to AI without any forewarning of us here. We might need to rollback....

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Oh ****!! A new turn just generated. I think we might now have lost the ability to get a new player into Marv permanently...

Man what a mess...

I'll send llamabeast an email and see what our options are. I have a feeling we may just have to suffer through it tho at this point.

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If it'd be possible to take two turns back, I guess that'd mean one less stale for R'lyeh... So I'd be all for it! :p The less turns wasted doing nothing the better I'd say.

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Or five turns back, eliminating all of R'lyeh's stales.

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As the new admin I have partial responsibility for the current issue with Marv. So, though I don't like the 2-turn rollback idea personally, I can live with it. However I think the opinion of all (or at least majority) of the participants should be heard. I see why Rlyeh and Ctis are interested in rollbacks; what about others?

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CTis and I have been involved in a bloodbath where we have each lost hundreds of gems in our war and revealed strategic intentions and tactical tricks to each other. Rolling back through this would be a complete mess.

If it were anything less than us losing control of a major player I would object. But as this stands, i think Marv going AI will ruin the game. So I vote for rollback (and a lot of praying that it works!) for the two turns needed to put a human back in for Marv.

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If he went AI two turns ago that means it was even before the Formoria attack on Helheim, wasnt it? Man what a mess...

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Might be a good idea to get a sub lined up before you roll back. Nothing would be worse than doing a multi-turn rollback to get a sub in, then finding that you can't find a sub.

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Maybe we can come to some other solution, without rollbacks? As Ironhawk already mentioned that will create really huge mess for everyone involved in wars in these 2 turns (so, basically, for everyone except Rlyeh).
Maybe just divide Marv lands between players equally or something like that, I don't know.
Anyway I'm not going to do anything until the majority of the remaining players say something here. Since I'm not the initial admin I don't know all the nick-nation correspondence so please state something like "Nation XX votes for YY".

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I think Marverni going AI is a game waster. It's simply too big and essential in the power balance. I therefore vote for a rollback.

It is with great reluctance though. I will not be able to repeat my very successful surprise attack on Helheim. So this rollback will cause the whole game to change direction.

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If I am reading everyone's posts right, the vote stands like so:

ryleh - rollback
arco - rollback
formoria - rollback
sauro - rollback
helheim - ?
ctis - ?

So we just need LupusFatalis and AlgaeNymph to cast their votes

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No, as a player (Sauro) I'm against rollback. I don't see how the mess created by 2-turn rollback can be smaller than caused by Marv going AI. However as I understand Ctis is also for rollback so we already have majority here. Still want to hear waht Helheim and Niefel have to say.

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I am certainly against a rollback, I'm currently waging war with 2 nations, 3 if Marvini is AI... And it kinda screws me over if my enemies now know how I plan to knock out their SCs.

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I'm for a rollback.

Hopefully, this won't be a big drama like in NaV. ;)

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It is was it is though.

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Well the votes are in, then: 5 yes, 1 no.

Up to you how to proceed Dimaz, you're the one with final authority.

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Hm, for me it's more like 4 yes, 2 no and 1 (Niefel) still has no vote. I'll put a thread to look for sub, then.

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Oh you were voting against? My bad. As for niefel, yeah I did forget him, you're right. He is so hard to contact I guess it just skipped my mind. You might try sending him a PM?

As for the sub - no I wouldnt go and find a sub until we have a decision about Marverni and the rollbacks. Ianuki (the original Marv player) was actually the one who noticed the AI in the first place. And he has told me that if we do rollback and need a temp sub that he can cover the position for a while. So until we are sure and have rolled back, its probably not worth it to find a sub.

You should definitely turn off the hosting timer tho - I see its still set to generate tomorrow?

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Ok I'll try to get in touch with Niefel by PM.
If we already have sub for Marverni - fine, then everything is ready for rollback.
Unfortunately I don't know how to turn off timer completely (I see only postpone, force hosting, change interval & turn off quickhost options), so I just postpone by 24h every day.

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Puh - dont try so hard next time, I'm fine with anything - rollback or not.

As the majority goes for a rollback, I'll also vote this way.

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Ok so majority is indeed for rollback. Since we already have a sub I will do it as soon as I have enough time. I'll post here after that.

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We are back to turn 68. Marv is in the nation list now. Let's try to end this mess without too much trouble.

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Think we can extend this turn ~48 hrs. I might be able to get it in on time--but I'm not sure I'll have the time till saturday--and I'd really rather not stale, kind of a big turn for me.

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I'm fine with a long delay on this turn too. It was a very big turn for me last time we did it and now I need to come up with a completely new strategy

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No problem, 48h added.
Hope we'll be able to return to schedule after all this problems are finished (however I prefer 72h as I said earlier).

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Am I in for Marverni?

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Yes. I changed Marv e-mail to yours.

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I have no idea what the diplomatic situation is. Can people who are interested in my assistance talk to me?