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rdonj April 6th, 2010 09:30 PM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [running]
 
Well, let me rephrase that, it's how I've seen them done or assume they were done :P I can't imagine most nations being about to pull off numbers in the vicinity of 40 or more without an awake SC pretender. An EA caelum eagle king blitz with no or almost no deaths is probably one of the few that could. Theoretically they could even go faster if they could get together armies to wipe out provinces the eagle kings skipped over for being too annoying (like lizards).

Silence0 April 7th, 2010 01:44 PM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [running]
 
I apologise for my stall this turn...Real life issues caught me...I ´ll try to not let it happen again...

Swan April 7th, 2010 01:53 PM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [running]
 
Should the god of C'tis, who gives and takes lives as the river, concerned that those demonic rats from yomi or whatever gained a vicotry point?
or is it normal?

13lackGu4rd April 7th, 2010 01:56 PM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [running]
 
seems to be normal, VPs are turned off so besides some dom spread it doesn't do anything... but if you wish to declare war on him than go ahead, Yomi should be pretty vulnerable in the early game, but than so should C'tis...

Squirrelloid April 7th, 2010 03:35 PM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [running]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Swan (Post 739362)
Should the god of C'tis, who gives and takes lives as the river, concerned that those demonic rats from yomi or whatever gained a vicotry point?
or is it normal?

The god of C'tis should be concerned that the above sentence has no verb.

Swan April 7th, 2010 03:58 PM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [running]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Squirrelloid (Post 739397)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Swan (Post 739362)
Should the god of C'tis, who gives and takes lives as the river, concerned that those demonic rats from yomi or whatever gained a vicotry point?
or is it normal?

The god of C'tis should be concerned that the above sentence has no verb.

The god of C'tis will take it as a no.
btw, i will take your life too.

Doo April 7th, 2010 06:00 PM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [running]
 
Ermor, land of delicious candy, would like to remind C'tis of the 10-turn peace accord. Attacking Yomi beforehand would be not advised.

SciencePro April 7th, 2010 06:48 PM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [running]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Squirrelloid (Post 739397)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Swan (Post 739362)
The god of C'tis should be concerned that the above sentence has no verb.

The god of C'tis will take it as a no.
btw, i will take your life too.

Squirrelloid isn't playing in this game so you'll have to wait until another game to take his life.

You could send an assassin to his house I guess but that would be way overkill for forum trolling i think.

Swan April 8th, 2010 08:30 AM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [running]
 
i admit my message was not clear.
it wasn't a declaration of war to Yomi, as i don't even know where it is, it was just a menace message responding squirreloid.
I repeat, i'm not attacking Yomi, and will not attack it even when squirrelloid will be back.

13lackGu4rd April 8th, 2010 08:51 AM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [running]
 
Yomi is played by Dark Kitty, Squirreloid isn't even playing in this game, so no idea why you keep mixing him into this...

GrudgeBringer April 8th, 2010 08:58 AM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [running]
 
Folks...some of you need to read your Privite messages ASAP.

Squirrelloid April 8th, 2010 10:04 AM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [running]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 13lackGu4rd (Post 739525)
Yomi is played by Dark Kitty, Squirreloid isn't even playing in this game, so no idea why you keep mixing him into this...

Squirrelloid has no nation.
Squirrelloid needs no nation.

Yskonyn April 8th, 2010 01:11 PM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [running]
 
Grudge? What did that remark mean?

GrudgeBringer April 8th, 2010 01:53 PM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [running]
 
I sent 2 privite messages to 2 nations and got one response.

I wanted to make sure everyone checks there PM's sot here isn't a bunch of trouble later.:up:

Swan April 8th, 2010 02:13 PM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [running]
 
RL troubles, i will skip this turn

13lackGu4rd April 8th, 2010 02:50 PM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [running]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Swan (Post 739591)
RL troubles, i will skip this turn

you don't just skip a turn, you ask for an extension... tell Grudge how long you need and he'll give it to you. don't just stale turns for no reason...

Swan April 8th, 2010 03:54 PM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [running]
 
no need to let 9 people waste 24 hour for the mistake of one, also it's just turn 9, i won't lose anything

13lackGu4rd April 8th, 2010 05:23 PM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [running]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Swan (Post 739610)
no need to let 9 people waste 24 hour for the mistake of one, also it's just turn 9, i won't lose anything

actually, turn 9 is still in the critical year 1 as far as getting your empire together via indy expansion... also this "waste" is very normal in PBEM games so don't feel bad about delaying the game for a bit...

Doo April 8th, 2010 05:39 PM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [running]
 
Swan, I don't mind a delay.

GrudgeBringer April 8th, 2010 06:55 PM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [running]
 
Gentlemen, part of my job as admin is to allow reasonable extensions so that the game stays balanced and we all have fun.

We don't need an extension every turn but EVERYBODY has to have them once in a while as life gets in the way.

Just PM me or post it in the Forum as I usually go by here 2 or 3 times a day.

We will be extending this turn 24 hours effective NOW.

Than you BlackGuard for bring this to my attention:up:

earcaraxe April 9th, 2010 06:56 PM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [running]
 
Dear player-godwannabe-fellows!

I currently organizing a 3-day conference which started on friday, and it will end on monday in the morning. I thought previously that i will have the time to write my turns, but it seems it is highly unlikely that i can manage this (we sleep and live on the spot, with very little computer time for everyone). Its a once-in-a-year occasion for me. I have already sent my h2 file for turn 11, but i would like to ask for a delay until monday 23:00 greenwich time for the next turn.

awaiting your answer,

thanks

Doo April 9th, 2010 09:53 PM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [running]
 
I'm ok with it.

GrudgeBringer April 9th, 2010 11:12 PM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [running]
 
36 hour extension is granted

earcaraxe April 12th, 2010 08:26 AM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [running]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GrudgeBringer (Post 739871)
36 hour extension is granted

thanks very much!

Now im back at home, the conference ended and im soon gonna issue my next turn.

Euarchus April 12th, 2010 10:17 AM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [running]
 
I didn't answer the PM because I didn't really have anything to add.

Swan April 13th, 2010 01:53 PM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [running]
 
Guys, i've some problems here, can i have 24 hours delay?
I'll be looking for a temporary sub until saturday, i'm sorry.

Doo April 13th, 2010 05:07 PM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [running]
 
No worries

GrudgeBringer April 13th, 2010 07:29 PM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [running]
 
24 hr extension grated to swan

Yskonyn April 15th, 2010 05:51 AM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [running]
 
Swan the turn will host tonight if we don't do anything.
Will you make it or do we need to extend the window for you?

earcaraxe April 16th, 2010 08:41 AM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [running]
 
Guys, are my sent mails supposed to go in the sent mail folder?

Mine is empty. I suspect that my last three PMs didnt arrive to the adressee (Yskonyn, Blackguard). Could you confirm? thx

Doo April 16th, 2010 08:59 AM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [running]
 
You need to tick the box at the bottom of the message that says something like "Save message after send", otherwise they don't save.

Squirrelloid April 16th, 2010 10:59 AM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [running]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by earcaraxe (Post 740804)
Guys, are my sent mails supposed to go in the sent mail folder?

Mine is empty. I suspect that my last three PMs didnt arrive to the adressee (Yskonyn, Blackguard). Could you confirm? thx

You didn't realize you needed an eidetic memory to conduct diplomacy in this game? Sucker.

More seriously, true allies quote diplomatic agreements in responses so both parties have a copy. Friends don't let friends forget treaty terms!

earcaraxe April 16th, 2010 03:50 PM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [running]
 
thanks guys!

13lackGu4rd April 16th, 2010 03:54 PM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [running]
 
dont worry, your messages have been sent, at least to me...

rdonj April 16th, 2010 04:23 PM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [running]
 
Also, when you are sending messages, if you scroll down to "additional options" you can save copies of the messages you send.

Swan April 17th, 2010 10:08 AM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [running]
 
I'm back, just sent my 2h

Yskonyn April 17th, 2010 04:40 PM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [running]
 
DECLARATION OF WAR:

Today, from our west, Kailasa has raided our lands. This unprovoked attack has nevertheless been repelled and resulted in a humiliating defeat for Kailasa,
Marverni is now in a state of war with the apes of Kailasa and hereby we send out a Call to Arms to all our allies to rid this world of the treacherous apes.

For glory and honour!

SciencePro April 17th, 2010 06:05 PM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [running]
 
Pangea is pleased to announce a public NAP-3 with Marveni.

Yskonyn April 20th, 2010 04:43 AM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [running]
 
Guys, I have unfortunate news (at least for you guys ;) ):
I will be going on a paragliding holiday next week. I will leave saturday and I will return sunday the week after. Unless we want to pause the game for a whole week, which I do not recommend now that hostilities have started, I am hereby looking for a temporary sub.

This also means that my admin duties will be gone for a week. Grudge, might I ask you to remain extra vigilant during this time?

I have altered the first post accordingly.

GrudgeBringer April 20th, 2010 01:21 PM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [running]
 
If Sauro will do me the favor of taking my 2 last 2 provinces, I will watch over the game and keep all the piggies in the pen.

If he does it fast enough I may be able to sub for you although I have never played Marverni (I have fought Marverni but never played them) as long as you tell me specifically what you want done.

However, in any case...if you need something post it in the forum and I will drop by at least twice a day or you can PM me.

Any arguments or decisions on gameplay since I am out of the game, will be my decision during the time he is gone...from rollbacks to extensions. If that is agreed upon, I would be happy to help out.:up:


Quote:

Originally Posted by Yskonyn (Post 741331)
Guys, I have unfortunate news (at least for you guys ;) ):
I will be going on a paragliding holiday next week. I will leave saturday and I will return sunday the week after. Unless we want to pause the game for a whole week, which I do not recommend now that hostilities have started, I am hereby looking for a temporary sub.

This also means that my admin duties will be gone for a week. Grudge, might I ask you to remain extra vigilant during this time?

I have altered the first post accordingly.


13lackGu4rd April 21st, 2010 07:32 PM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [looking for temp sub!]
 
can I have a 6-8 hour extension please?

GrudgeBringer April 21st, 2010 09:36 PM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [looking for temp sub!]
 
8 hour extension granted for Blackguard

Swan April 23rd, 2010 05:38 PM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [looking for temp sub!]
 
i'm sorry about last turn stale, i thought i had send the 2h but i didn't

GrudgeBringer April 23rd, 2010 07:01 PM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [looking for temp sub!]
 
Gentlemen,

Marverni just left for a week to go Para-gliding and out of desperation has changed the game to me to try and muck it up for him until he gets back.

He has explained the diplomatic situation but I may be PMing a couple of you to find out what is exactly going on.

We have 1 small problem...I myself am leaving for Indy NEXT Friday to play in a Rugby Tourney next weekend. I will do the most current turn at that time and then extend it until Monday and he gets back to take it over.

If you hear a scream...that is him seeing how I have managed to destroy his nation!!

Remember, I am the admin while he is away...If you need an extension or have a problem leave a message here or PM me and I will try and get it resolved.

Thanks guys!!:up:

GrudgeBringer April 24th, 2010 07:34 PM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [looking for temp sub!]
 
I am putting a PM on the forum not to embarrass anyone, but rather to show how one persons attitude can really make some enemies in Dom 3.

You read it from bottom to top...I admit I will sound pretty petty to some...but he had an agreement with a player that will be gone a week and decided to 'just break it for some action'.

There is no reason for that, as I said "he could have waited If you had an agreement with someone that gave them a province, why would you break it and be so caviler about it, "just so you could get some action"?

It is Marverni for pitys sake, he can't stop you...he can't stop anybody. And for that matter he is out of town with 8 little provinces and I am just subbing for him. I asked permission to take 41 not out of 'fear' of you, but rather in the spirt of the game. You are the biggest in the game, you could have waited for him to come back and say it to his face.

Do what you will...

You are being arrogant, a bully, and a blatant backstabber.

I look forward to seeing you when you decide your NOT a noob anymore and want to play with the 'big boys'.

I am going to put this on the forum so the others can see what kind of attitude will get others to NOT want them in a game.

I saw this coming with Arco and made you and Caelem the same offer to just take me over so I could go on to my other games that are in the end game stage. For some reason Caelem didn't take me up on the offer.

Do what you will, I will not respond to you anymore.



Quote:

Originally Posted by earcaraxe
Dear and wise Arco-born adviser of Marverni!

Nice to meet you again. :)

We had an agreement with marverni about him having 41. But I would like to have 41 this turn and im sending an army there as I would like some action.

with best regards

The Which Kings

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrudgeBringer
Greetings from Marverni...

This is GrudgeBringer taking over Marverni for a week for while the leader goes Para-gliding.

he says you guys have had a conversation but didn't tell me what was said.

(congrats by the way, I see you are leading the pack)

If you have no designs on Marverni at the moment, do you mind if I 'try' and take 41 and will go no farther south and will leave no troops in the province.

I would appreciate a week long Nap while he is gone so I can 'try' and get him squared away. He will be trying to expand North so eventually he will be doing the work for you. He is no danger to you at all.

Look forward to hearing from you...

Thanks:up:



earcaraxe April 25th, 2010 04:14 AM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [looking for temp sub!]
 
Greetings!

In a nutshell: I agreed with marverni about 10 turns ago on our borders. No NAP, no timetable on it, it was about a two-two sentences long discussion.

I would like to provide my view on this:

1) I think Yskonyn being out of town should not play a role here. I acted independently of it (actually I planned the attack a long time ago, and then he went gliding unexpectedly). Do u guys think if someone is replaced by a temporaly sub means that he has to be treated (for instance not attacked) differently? I'm open to a discussion about it.

2) I dont consider my attack a backstabbing nor dishonesty. I agreed with marverni on our borders about 10 turns ago. We didnt make a NAP. My opinion is that agreeing on borders is not binding, as it would mean that I would not be allowed to attack him anytime without being a "backstabber". I consider my message to marverni as a declaration of war. I even informed Marverni about my attack which I think was not an obligation in the moral sense.

3) In my view: I didnt intend to do anything you (Grudgebringer) should (could) take personal. I consider all my acts in this matter to be within the boundaries of the game. And because its it is a strategic game, (declaration of) wars happen.

Please feel free to give feedback as I would like to have your opinions.

thx

The Which Kings/earcaraxe

Euarchus April 25th, 2010 05:56 AM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [looking for temp sub!]
 
I do not have a problem with earcaraxe's behaviour. If Yksonne did not get a NAP, that was a poor decision.

Doo April 25th, 2010 07:11 AM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [looking for temp sub!]
 
Without wanting to talk about my actual in game activities, I have found that in the diplomacy I have done with two players no real attempt on either side was made to lock in a NAP time-frame.

I guess we all have different opinions regarding this (from the OP):

"Who should join: Noobz, Internediate players, Vets who won't play agressively, but pose a helpful attitude towards the noobs in- as well as out of game.
-Who should NOT join: People looking for a no-holds-barred war, experienced players looking to win easily or agressively, people who definately want to play with nations that are banned; there will be no discussion."

Very open to individual interpretation.

vfb April 25th, 2010 08:29 AM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [looking for temp sub!]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GrudgeBringer (Post 742101)
(snip)
Do what you will...

You are being arrogant, a bully, and a blatant backstabber.

I look forward to seeing you when you decide your NOT a noob anymore and want to play with the 'big boys'.

Well, that's way out of line, firing off a personal attack because of an in-game situation. It looks even worse since, from reading the game thread, it appears that this player is the one who just eliminated you, freeing you up to sub.

And what's with the whining?

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrudgeBringer (Post 737932)
(snip)
BTW, it is not MANDATORY that you put the Naps in the forum, just no whining if you get stabbed in the back if you have a private Nap. I myself usually have both kinds.

You weren't even stabbed in the back. Your agreement was not posted in the game thread. He even gave you more-than-fair warning that he is attacking an indy province.

GrudgeBringer April 25th, 2010 09:13 AM

Re: EA Oceans of Land - (Noob game) [looking for temp sub!]
 
1. This wasn't about me...I GAVE him my territoies without a fight(and also asked Calem if he wanted some also)as I am in 3 end games and honestly didn't have time to mess with it, I was just helping Ysk get this off the ground...

2. Not knowing the situation as a sub, I asked if it was ok to take a certain province, If he said No, then I would have backed off it.

In HIS words all he said was that he had agreed to give that province to Marverni, but now decided "he wanted some action" so he was going to run an army up there and attack that province.

I don't see how agreeing on boundries so you can expand in peace constitues a NAP...but it DOES convey a promise. A promise that can be broken for sure, but don't try and disquise it as because it was 10 turns ago and it isn't valid now.

Part of my tirade (if you want to call it that) was due to the same attitude I have had in discussions with him before. As you can see I tried to be civil when asking him about the situation.

There was no discussion, only a flippent comment.

I didn't ask if anybody agreed with me, nor do I actually care.
I stand by what I said and my opinion of his actions are not going to change.

VFB, you know I always keep my word and have no use for those that don't, so your particular comment suprises me. And whining...You don't hear me whining for myself, I could care less about this game, only my promise to YSK

NOW, I am supposed to be admin for this game until he gets back...The way I see it I can just put it on hold until he returns, or I can look in and make sure the game is running smoothly. Either way, I have had my say and will not discuss it furthur with anyone.

If you would like to wait for his return, then post it in the forum..otherwise I will try and keep this going as best I can.

We have both had our say and there is no need for further comment on the subject. There is no need for this game to go up in flames over something between two people.


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