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I postponed the game undefinitely, so that everyone who is still in it can comment on the current situation, so please do. I personally think that it would be hard to find a sub for mictlan on this turn, but we might try, also i think that midgard is not yet unkillable, but only if micltan plays along, if we do not find a sub for mictlan, i would think that the correct course of action would be to declare midgard the victor. But i will put up a sub request for mictlan, you never know who will sign up.

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As far as Arcoscephale is concerned, and considering the graphs, I am in favour of declaring Midgard our new Ruler.

Now, I admit Arco is a very minor nation in this endgame so I will follow the general motto if you guys want to go on. Not that it will be very interesting for me but I don't like dropping a running game. Myrmidons do not stale ! :D

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I dont know, I think Bogarus might want some say in it, he has been sitting still building Tartarians with well of misery for most of the game after all.

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I've been out of contention ever since Pythium attacked back around turn 20, so I'm just enjoying trying out things at this point.

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Yeah, OK. So it's on then eh, Midgard? :tough:

I only subbed in to see how Bogarus might look late in the late game. Sort of a primer for LO2, which worked as well as most of my stragedies. :lol

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Nah its Utgard that want a quick end so go attack him instead. :)

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i do not want a quick end, but id rather end it now, that to have an AI mictlan running rampage.

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OK, Calahan has agreed to sub for Mictlan, so Midgard might still be killed :).

p.s. please get your turn in before the deadline comes, i will force hosting as soon as everyone except atlantis has the turn in.

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As Hadrian says, I've now subbed into this game as Mictlan. Unless I hear otherwise, I'll assume I'm at war with Midgard and at peace with everyone else (although please let me know if any of these 'peace' agreements are NAP's etc. I'll assume not otherwise)


Also, is there any reason I'm missing as to why Atlantis hasn't been set AI?

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yes, I tried to do it but he password protected his pretender and there is no master password set for this game. so the only choice is to let Atlantis stale away.

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Well I must admit, that is a damn good reason :)

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@ Hadrian - Please can I get a 48 hour delay of the current turn. (PM-ed you about it as well)

@ All - Very sorry to ask for the delay, having a very busy week in RL, and as such I haven't had time to do much other than open the turn file yet, so have little to no chance of making tomorrows deadline :( And given the nature of the position, and with it being my first turn, it'd be great if I could get a full weekend (yippee, weekend means no work :)) to assess the position, and get fully clued-up with regards both the postion, and the overall game/diplomatic situation.


@ All again - Please can someone confirm that the following is the correct nation-player list. (I don't suspect the OP to be wrong, but thought I'd double check just in case, as don't want to contact the wrong person about dimplomacy and be left waiting for a reply that may never come)

Arco - Herode
Atlantis - iamofage (happily staling away)
Jomon - Graeme Dice
Mictlan - Calahan
Midgard - Isokron
Bogarus - Stagger Lee
Tien Ch'i - Wrana
Utgard - Hadrian II

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Confirmed :)

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:doh: Obviously ignore my delay request. I totally missed the actual deadline date, and only saw "21:35 GMT on Friday", and missed that all important additional bit of info. "21:35 GMT on Friday 15th October"


I promise to try and not be quite so retarded in-game.


@ Herode - Thanks for the confirmation :up:

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we are missing the turns of bogarus and TC, please get your turns in.

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What's going on? Is TC still with us?

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i think so, someone extended the deathline and it was not me and the only one that has the pw is wrana.

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Pop Quiz time folks, the topic is "WTF??!?"

Check the graphs out (attached for on-lookers), and try to explain how Utgard's research graph went down! :confused:

I can safely say I've never seen that before during my time playing Dominions. Stewpid Jiunts! :)

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Sorry guys. I was away this weekend, and have to work OT tomorrow. Can I get an extra 12hrs? Thanks.

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postponed

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Sorry, brain is completely not working, so I am turning AI.
I'll probably return to the forum after a month or so.
Sorry. :(

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Sorry to see you go, Wrana. But you'd better find a sub. This game had more than enough stales and IA and what is left form TC could still interest someone, no ?

Did you eventually find any explanation for this fascinating un-learning curve ? :p

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postponed the game a bit to clarify the situation:
Does someone think that he has any chance to to damage to midgard now when even TC is gone?

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Well, maybe I should have tried sooner, but Bogarus marches to war (and certain death)!

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TC are only being set AI this turn, so is there any reason a sub isn't being looked for instead? Since I can't see too much point personally in continuing if we have to lose such an important nation to the AI.

There seems to be a lot of eager new players around these days, and while the position is far from one I'd want a new player to sub into, since the war with Midgard will likely mean the learning curve will have to be negotiated while similtaniously taking a blood bath. Even this has to be preferable to the AI rearing its unwanted head. So trying to find a sub probably isn't a completely fruitless exercise (unless none of the new players want a taste of late-game action)


As a last resort, and if delaying the game again is undesirable, can I suggest to find someone to amend TC's orders to a 'doing nothing/stale' turn rather than setting to AI. Since the latter is rather permanent after all.

Or of course just say well played, and award the game to Isokron. (although I'm happy to keep playing if others are, but maybe less so if TC are lost to the AI, as then it seems a lot less worth continuing IMO. But I still will of course if others are happy to)

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i postponed again, but i have no time this weekend to look for a sub.

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I've posted on the dedicated thread in hope some sub shows. I would be very disappointed to see this game ending just at the moment I was about to crush the crappy Utgard's uss :D

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@ All - Hadrian has given me the admin password, and I've just posted for a sub. Fingers crossed one shows up :)


Edit -
Many thanks for that Herode, as the further and wider the request is shouted, the better chance a sub can be found :)

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Ok guys, we need a decision within the next ~12 hours regarding TC. Assuming no sub comes along in that time (fingers not un-crossed on that yet though), then we have two options that I can see.

1 - Allow TC to be turned AI.
2 - Get someone to amend the orders to an effective stale turn.

The immediate outcome of the first option is pretty obvious. The second option gives TC another stale, but does keep the nation 'open' for a sub to be found.

Personally, I don't feel this is 'my game' yet, having only subbed in 2 turns ago. So I don't want to make a decision myself that will affect several months of work by the rest of you, and without a sub, there is no 'good' option for TC that I can see. So some feedback from you all would certainly be appreciated :) But my own take is that if TC is lost to the AI or staling, then this game is over, and we may as well save time by crowning the worthy winner now.


With regards the TC-sub position, can I suggest that if any one of you here really wants to keep this game going, then you need to get active with sorting the TC-sub situation out. As most of you know, I subbed in here as part of a sub-swap deal to solve a subbing problem I had in another game I was playing. So if the continuation of this game means anything to anyone here, then might I suggest you find a game that needs a sub, and offer to do the same.

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Ok everyone, I've managed to find a sub for TC, with Maerlande very kindly agreeing to help us all out by taking up the stewardship. So can you please all thank Maerlande when you see him for saving TC from the AI. (thanks Maerlande :))

Since that dark weekend in early May though, Maerlande is no longer on these forums. So if you want to arrange diplomacy with him, you either need to head over to the IRC channel (details are in the FAQ), or PM him over at the Dom3mods forum...

http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods


I've also added 12 hours to the turn to allow Maerlande time to settle in.

Think that's all for know :)

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I think you should give him more time if he wants it, TC is in quite a complicated situation at the moment from what I can tell.

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Thanks Maer! :)

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No fears :) I'm in good touch with Maerlande, and offered him all the time he needs. But so far he has only asked for 12 hours, as he said he had good free time today to settle into his new surroundings.

But I will of course extend the timer wthout question if he needs the extra time.


@ All - You might want to let Maerlande know (in-game message, IRC chat, Dom3mods PM) about whatever diplo agreements you might have with him. Some are likely obvious if he has occupied lands :) but other relations will be unknown to him. So it'd be great if you can let him know somehow of any diplo info he needs to know.

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@ All - I added a further 6 hours to the timer for Maerlande.

I've also PM-ed Graeme Dice, as his turn is still missing, and he would have staled several times had the game seen regular hostings over the past week. Hopefully he's still with us, but I'll let you all know should I learn otherwise. (I won't be delaying the game for him though unless he asks, as ~10 days without a hosting means this game needs to host asap to get some momentum going again)

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Ok folks, I have no idea what happened there. I forced the hosting for turn 76 (due to the usual Atlantis reasons), and the llamaserver appears to have hosted 2 turns in a row for some reason. I only got sent turn 78 as well (not sure if any of you got sent turn 77 or not)

I'll wait a few moments for the llamaserver to come to its senses, and to clear out any kinks, then roll the turn back to turn 77 where it should be.

Fingers crossed that a jinx isn't creeping into this game.


Edit - Please don't open those turn 78 files. You likely won't gain much info, but whatever can be gained, shouldn't be gained. Good sportsmanship and all that :)

Edit 2 - I've asked the llamaserver to roll the turn back, but so far it doesn't seem to be cooperating :(

Edit 3 - Ok, it appears we're back in business :) as a turn 77 file should have just appeared in your in-boxes. Please let me know if you spot any weirdness, so an attempt to fix it can be made asap.

Otherwise, lets get this game going again :)

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Turn delayed 16 hours by request of two players.

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All

I just found about about a death in my close family, so I'm not going to be around for a few days to sort admin stuff out with this game. The current turn is due to host shortly, but after that Hadrian is going to need to step back in to sort admin stuff out until my return, which is likely to be sometime towards the end of next week.

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Perhaps we should delay the turn until Calahan can get back ?

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Agreed.

My condolences to you, Calahan. Take care of yourself and your family.

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Just paying a quick flying visit (while I'm at work) before I disappear again for a few days.

I've added 96 hours for myself then (thanks for the understanding all) to push the deadline back to Friday. Which I think should be enough time for me.

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@ All

Thanks for understanding about the delay I needed to sort out my sudden RL affairs. Very much appreciated.

I should be ok to meet the current deadline, although not 100% sure yet until I get into work tomorrow and find out how many cock-ups were made while I was away. Still several other turns yet to be submitted though.

And has anyone seen Hadrian anywhere? Anyone playing in other games with him? Since he staled the last turn here, and still nothing submitted for the current turn yet. I'll likely chase this up tomorrow if no posts on the matter appear in the meantime. (and after I have a good sleep since I'm shattered)

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Sorry everyone, I've had to grab an extra 4 hours here. There are still a few things to do on my turn (plus still no sign or word from Hadrian), and all my Dom time is currently being consumed by the llamaserver's voracious appetite for eating the NWA game whenever it gets started. Plus most of the test games I've started since while trying to bug hunt the problem. (and I really want to get the NWA started asap, as it's been in limbo far too long).

So apologies again that my admin duties elsewhere are interfering with my playing here. (think this is the first time my admin duties have ever interfered with my playing, despite all the games I've admined. Had to happen one day I guess :()

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I've just heard from Hadrian, and he is still with us :) Seem like he just had some time problems over the last week.

So, I think we are good for trying to get some sort of momentum going here now. (unless anyone else suddenly wants to drop :( :(). The next turn is due to host in around ~23hours, so I hope you are all good for getting your turns in by then. I will of course delay if anyone needs it, but it would be good to get at least a few turns done on schedule if possible.

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I should get my turn in, but can we switch to 24hr reminder instead of 12?

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That's probably a good idea, and I don't see why not. I'll wait until the turn hosts to hear any objections to 24h reminders. Otherwise I'll do the switch once the turn hosts tomorrow. (plus if I change it to 24h now, the 12h reminders for this turn likely won't be sent)

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Utgard stalling again. I knew he would eventually acknowledge the attack against poor Arcoscephale was a fatal mistake.

Now, my boy, let's make peace. I will only claim half of your lands for the price of your repentance.

:D

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Yes, that is a little annoying I must admit. I guess Hadrian hasn't sorted his time issues out yet. Sadly I wasn't near a computer around hosting time either :( or I'd likely have added a few hours to try and prevent this stale (since 3 consecutive stales is not what Utgard or this game needs at all)

Guess we'll just wait until Hadrian appears again to let us know what his situation is.

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Also, since there were no objections, I have increased the reminder email notifications to 24hours.

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Since my diplomatic situation cant get much worse I think I will just gloat a bit and say, Wow those last two turns must have been really awful to watch as Bogarus :)

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sry, i just started studying, and have some problems squeezing in time for dom3, but i should find some time from now on.

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I only caught glimpses from the sidelines, but even I was saying ooouuchhh :hurt:

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Thanks for letting us know your situation Hadrian. Much appreciated. Please let me know if you need an extension for any reason (or just extend yourself of course :))

Although I might have to start considering a sub if you stale again (or return to talk of deciding the game), since your nation seems to be suffering badly right now without regular guidance, and is a fairly pivotal nation for the balance of the game. (as all the remaining nations are). Plus nobody wants to fight a staling nation :( so it's not fair or fun on the players you're currently at war with.

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Game delayed 24 hours by player request.

New deadline is 18:20 GMT Friday 19th November.