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One big sentence, showing small you. Wouldnt wonder if your parents hate you.

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Okay, take this to PMs please. This is not the place for your argument. Moderators should shut this argument down.

This is a game for the rest of us and this thread is to describe and organize that game.

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I definitely prefer this last word from someone pretending to be a mature person.

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Ohhhh, a few stales, crazy days. And pythum attacks me, we had a NAP, do u remember?

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No- we did not have a NAP. I am pretty sure we didn't anyway... i certainly don't remember. if you show it to me i'll send you 1600gold as a 'sorry'.

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did jotunheim just declare war on the entire world?

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Waiting Morla to show up untill tomorrow night. Just sent him an email about Machaka.

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hi all, sorry. I had internet problems, well no inet at all.

I will check Machaka status and if i am beaten or almost dead i will turn myself AI, i am really sorry.

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I require an extension.

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Morla,

I am sorry about attacking your nation when you had no internet access. That sucks for you and is an unpleasant surprise. I hadn't realized that was happening since you posted on here in post #154.

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I just spent 45 minutes on my turn and i am still not done and probably won't be able to get to this until fairly late tomorrow or even wednesday- can we extend the turn 24 hours please?

Thanks,
I.

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ofc

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Anaconda,

Could you update the player list both on the llamaserver database and in the first post. Its a bit confusing to contact players when you don't know who is actually playing (especially for pangaea).

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Also:

Sorry ti'en chi. that was an accident. Our intentions are not hostile.

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Updated.

Is Pangaea still Bullock or did he get a sub? Also, point out other unaccuracies, please.

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I think its just bolluck being replaced. And i think the replacement was ossa?

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EDIT:

I'm trying to find a sub to take over; i'm not really enjoying this anymore- its too late game- there's no real research goals to look forward to anymore- and there is too much micro. I'll keep playing since the first post specifically says not to go AI until the bitter end but i do hope to find a sub.

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So we are postponing a bit to find a sub. Hes too important to go AI, I think.

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No need- i'll still post one or two more turns. i won't go AI right away.

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I've been out of this game for awhile, so maybe the folks that remain feel differently. But I would worry that becoming the leader and then going AI because you lose interest is a good way to become unwelcome in future games.

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Yeah- thats exactly why i am looking for a sub. I agree completely with your point. If i cannot find a sub, i will continue to play- if for on other reason than what you point out. Wanna sub RonD?

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I'm quite enjoying getting piled on :p. Every turn brings new challenges.

PS: that Claws of Cocytos is SICK! Not sure what happens to those guys in Cocytos but they are not dead.. and they can come back I think.

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you've played and continue to play extremely well momfreek.

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thx!

My overall strategy hasn't been succesful though. 3 nations I've picked fights with, I've not beaten anyone outright... and now everyone hates me ^^. Still, I've had plenty of good battles and thats what the games all about for me.

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Explain to me why my grendel couldn't hurt your huntress- i don't understand what was happening. You seemed to be getting red fire effects but nothing else.

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I had too much defence so he was missing every attack. Fire brand flame procs on the square even if you miss but its insignificant damage vs invulnerability and fire resistance (14 ap fire dmg, no strength added).

I don't understand why i never got entangled.. perhaps I had enough attack to bypass your shield? Or perhaps I had enough strength to ignore it. Not sure

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Immaculate cast LoLKatZ on me, and I failed my resistance check, so here I am volunteering to sub for Pythium. I'll try not to suck too badly. Which version of CBM are we using?

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1.92 and thanks.

anaconda can you change the e-mail of the player and he can request turn resend?

I guess krpeters will have to PM you his e-mail address.

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Will change tonite

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In that case you may need to provide a turn extension seeing as how i just got the 12h warning message.

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Oh, wow, this is a monster of a game. Hmmm, it may take me a day or two to figure out what is going on. An extension would definitely be a good idea unless Immaculate wants to play this turn and I could start the next.

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48H extenson granted, email changed. Keep me posted.

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Thank you!!!

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OK, I submitted a turn. I'm not going to pretend it's a good one, but I think I'm getting the hang of this position. Definitely lots of potential for interesting strategies. I hope I survive long enough to try them!

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Well, if nothing else, this game will be a learning experience for me. For example, I confirmed my suspicions that Flames from the Sky is a waste against troops. But it turns out it's pretty handy against mages. Ouch!

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yeah, the stats I've got say "15AP fire dmg" so i figure thats almost certain death for an unarmoured human and about 50/50 vs 10hp+10 protection. Seems it even hits 50% of commanders inside forts.

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OK, good news -- my Harbringers aren't totally useless! Yay! Although I would have liked to have had a water bless.

In other news, I'm getting my turns in pretty quickly, that counts for something, right?

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Yah, mirror image seems to be a good counter to claws of kocytos.

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Well, I see why Immaculate got frustrated -- Claws of Kokytos is seriously overpowered, insanely so in CBM. I suppose it's a good thing I have little experience building SC's -- Jotenheim can flatten them easily.

I guess I may as well start dumping gems into ethereal crossbows.

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i do believe its (claws) range is limited? maybe start in the rear and wait for him to cast other spells and deplete his blood slaves?

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I haven't got it to work on your harbingers.. yet (or is there some desync issue here?).

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Oh, you're right. I saw the precision 100 and for some reason read range 100 as well instead of range 30.

And no, you haven't nailed any Harbringers yet, but I was just looking ahead at the likely intersection and doing the math. 200 gold and 2 virgins vs. 60 gems doesn't add up well for me :)

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It sure does seem brutally effective (and cheap). I don't know if its a particular intended feature of Jotunheim or what.

It seems guys can come back from Kokytos (they are not counted as "dead" in the battle report, held artifacts are still "in play" and there is one artifact that helps "navigate the planes of hell".. one of the tomes).

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its stupidly overpowered in my opinion but my opinions are often quantifiably wrong. its should be resistible but hard to resist- in my opinion (like +4 penetration?).
In a different game mictlan did a job on agartha with it, sending like three grendels to ice-hell in the first turn before they even got an action.... thats not balanced in my (obviously wrong) opinion.

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Well, I'm not disagreeing, but I'll sure keep trying to send these damn harbingers to hell ^^

Even if it was resistable I could spam it quite easily and retreat (one non-cap 250g commander + 2 blood slaves). Seems like it could be more expensive to cast.

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In vanilla, it's a 200 fatigue spell, meaning you really do need a 3B 1W mage to cast it or a booster. Either way, you reduce the frequency considerably. It's CBM's change to 100 that really puts the hurt on, allowing any 2B 1W to pop it.

As for intent... well, we can just assume that Mictlan and Jotenheim have "immunity to SC" and see what effect it has on gameplay :)

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Quick FYI (before the above point is used in any argument for or against anything)...

You can not use extra slaves to temporarily increase one casting level on the battlefiled in the same way you can use extra gems to do this. So for example, while a S2 mage can be giving 2 Pearls and will use them both to successfully cast Antimagic, you can not give 2 slaves to a B2 mage and expect him to cast Life for Life, as he can not use a slave to temporarily boost himself to the B3 needed to successfully cast this spell. As such a base B2W1 mage still won't be able to cast Claws without some form of help (booster, communion, whatever). So CBM has not changed the minimum base requirements for Claws in this sense. (ie. In both vanilla and CBM.1.92 you need a base B3W1 mage if no path boosting is involved)

Carry on.

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Fair point, but it's still a bad change since the reduced fatigue means you can script more castings in the first five turns. And the nations that benefit most from this, in particular Jotun with its recruit-everywhere skratti, didn't need the boost. Don't know why this change was made and hopefully it will either be undone or the casting requirements increased.

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Oh, thats news, thx.

Can you use extra slaves to reduce fatigue? I'm not quite clear if thats just a side-benefit of the level boosting mechanic..

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Oh I didn't say it wasn't a bad change ;) I was just doing my usual correcting people who post faulty mechanics (I did it politely this time as well :shock:)

FWIW, I think Blood is horribly broken and OP in CBM (Edit - Removing SDR's is nothing more than a flesh wound), and not far off that in vanilla. But as least in vanilla Blood was kept in check with Gem Gens (Edit - And no, fixing a broken game feature with another broken game feature is not a good idea, in fact it's a truly awful idea. Thought I'd point this out before any Gem Gen lovers jump on this quote and use it for their stupid argument). But without Gem Gens Blood can just rule the game once you get a mega Blood economy going, since every Blood spell/ritual is either ridiculously cheap, ridiculously powerful, or both in most cases. And Blood summons are not exactly bottom of the food chain. But I've ranted about all this before in many CBM chats and nothing's been done about it, so I've just stopped moaning about it now (the community cheers :clap:)

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Oh you can still burn extra slaves to reduce fatigue, as that mechanic has nothing to do with using extra gems to temporarily raise your spell casting level.

In fact with Blood spells it's just about impossible to stop the the AI chomping through the slave pile and using as many slaves as his Blood level allows. As most of the Blood battlefield spells are such high fatigue that the AI will always look to reduce it as much as possible with slave burning. Although you can stop this during the first round of battle (several rounds if you want to get fancy) with clever commander placement, but it's very fiddly to do and generally not worth it since slaves are cheap as hell anyway (hint slaves need to be on a different commander to the mage using them).