Re: WinSP MBT: Das Reich
 

Thus far I am pretty pleased with the state of the modification. I look forward to the full release. :)

Re: WinSP MBT: Das Reich
 

Think they are great. What were you thinking of changing on them?

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Nothing specific, lol. I just didnt think they were that good, sorry. I guess it's never easy to be truely satisfied, especially as these can never be to scale.

I will go prepare the .zip file now with all the boats - brb

Re: WinSP MBT: Das Reich
 

Ok here it is:

boats.zip file includes - MFP, AF D3 (with moving turret and with solid turret), ELB, EL AL (again with a stationary and moving turret) and the PiLB in 2 colour schemes, with and without armament.

Use whichever you like :)

Re: WinSP MBT: Das Reich
 

Quick question: Have I messed up somewhere or is sound 255.wav missing?

Re: WinSP MBT: Das Reich
 

Dear Scorpio,

As far as I am aware 255.wav is listed as "click.wav" in Sounds.ini. Same applies for the mod.

I've loaded up the last of the helicopters and am now dealing with the boats. When I'm done I'll post up the new files (along with revised acknowledgements).

Will probably be ready by the middle - end of the week. Then I'll compile a list of encyclopaedia entries. We'll work through them and then we're done.

Re: WinSP MBT: Das Reich
 

Hiya,

Sorry was looking at the "Das Reich soundguide" spreadsheet which lists 255.wav as G43 sniper. No worries.

Would you like me to have a stab at a few text entries or wait until you have a template?

Re: WinSP MBT: Das Reich
 

By all means, have a go. :)

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Ok attached is a .zip file containing 4 examples also shown below.

My Idea is to follow a (suggested) format =

"Das Reich" - Or OoB name OR Military Branch
FULL NAME - of unit with no (few) abbreviations
(translation if required, esp for formations)
*
Description of unit or formation. Including where necessary information on who used it and what it is armed with if the weapons are very abbreviated.
*
[Classification - Historical (existed), Conjectural (designed but never produced), Hypothetical (speculative)] - If based on "real" unit namecheck it here
{Pic: ??? Icon: ???} - IF desired (or known) give picture and/or Icon credits

What do you think? Am I miles away? I am happy to do as many as you want me to (Gulp all 4000ish entries if you like) - I may need some help with some translations.

IF I am on the right lines and you want me to do it just give me a shout and I will get on it (and send results to your email :) )

Re: WinSP MBT: Das Reich
 

Agreed. The format you devised is great. I will begin work on the formations today. If you like you can do the tanks for now. I will come up with a fair division of labour by the end of the work week.

Re: WinSP MBT: Das Reich
 

Hiya,

I am working my way through the tanks preparing some encyclopaedia entries and noticed an anomaly:
The "(+)" versions of the Leopard 1A4A1 forward have Thermal imaging and a CIWS, is this right?
"normal" versions dont get TI till the mid 90's and the leopard 2 never even gets VIRSS never mind a CIWS!

Seems to be a lack of consistancy for tank self defence systems - the kaisertiger for instance gets an active protection system in the early 80's which is then replaced with a smoke screen/jammer in the early 90's.

If the Reich develops some kind of hard-kill tank defense weapon system in the 80's (20 years before anyone else) why isn't it on all their tanks? And why did they drop it in favour of a passive system?

Perhaps you have great answers which I need to include in the relevant text entries.

Re: WinSP MBT: Das Reich
 

The thermal imaging is correct. I changed CIWS to VIRSS in the updated version. I will post it up next week. IRL has gotten in the way this week.

The regular Leopard 1s are meant to be a bit more rudimentary by the 80s. They are more or less the equivalent of the Panzer IVs in the late war years by that time.

Should the Leopard 2s - later models get CIWS in your opinion? They don't have any at present afaik irl.

The protection systems in the mod's timeline were developed to specifically protect the heavy tanks in the 70s - about ten years before the USSR or NATO countries - from emerging threats in the 70s-80s

The passive systems are replaced in the update for all heavy tanks.

Re: WinSP MBT: Das Reich
 

No rush mate.

No I don't believe they should - thats why it struck me as odd, lol. Seems you have it in hand already if you have changed the active CIWS to the passive VIRSS.

I'm pretty sure no NATO country has active CIWS on any vehicle NOW nevermind in the 80's!!!
The soviet Drozd system was available in the late 70's but wasnt very sucessful and was dropped in favour of reactive armour.

with what?

Your later comments for the heavy tanks seem to contradict what you say about the leopards (or I'm sorry, I misunderstood).

In your timeline does the Reich develop some kind of active protection system for it's vehicles/tanks? in the 70's? If they did, fine, they would indeed have mounted it on the Leopard 2's.
My, limited, understanding is that the various systems were too big, heavy, slow and limited and were universally dropped in favour of reactive armour and passive systems (jammers, IR smoke, chaff, etc) - it is only in recent times that the advances in electronics, miniturisation and radar detection that they have become viable and practicable with great claims made for the efficiency of systems such as the Israeli Trophy, Russian Arena or American Iron Curtain.

No worries. I will get the first batch of 100 or so texts emailed to you next week, so you can see if I am doing them to your satisfaction.

Don't worry about timing - Real life has to come before a game,mate! :)

Re: WinSP MBT: Das Reich
 

The passive systems of heavy tanks from the late 90s are now equipped with active counter-measures. From the early 80s the heavies are equipped with passive counter-measures.

The heavier Leopard 1s (Leo. 1A4A3 (+)) get passive counter-measures from 86 onwards. Nothing active.

The Leopard 2s have strong enough armour so I don't think they need counter-measures.

Indeed, no NATO countries afaik have active counter-measures on their MBTs, but I do believe Israel has some nowadays (as you mentioned).

Thanks for the work on the text files. Am working on formations. Lots to do :eek:

Re: WinSP MBT: Das Reich
 

Update available at the usual place ("Update 14.08.2015"). Tell me what you think.

One last supreme effort checking through the OOBs and I think we can publish.

In the meantime lets focus on writing up those text files. Concentrating on problematic units first - those that are not so easy to figure out - and then when we've gotten them out of the way we can publish with those text files and release a "patch" with the rest down the line.

Re: WinSP MBT: Das Reich
 

Thanks for the latest update! :up:

Loving the new gunboats! :D

Hope to get you around 600 text files by the weekend (have switched focus to "problematic units" as you suggested)

Re: WinSP MBT: Das Reich
 

You are very welcome!

Here is another one (Update 19.08.2015). Updated Panzergrenadiers, SS and Marines. They now have double MGs (models 45 and 55) instead of the single MG they used to have.

Update is available at the usual spot. I think this is now a perfect load-out for mechanised troops.

Re: WinSP MBT: Das Reich
 

Thank you for your continued hard work Monty. You've really transformed MBT into something monstrous and wonderful in my eyes. :D

Re: WinSP MBT: Das Reich
 

Apologies for the delays folks - real life unexpectedly got in the way

Re: WinSP MBT: Das Reich
 

No need to apologise :). Take your time.

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Oh wow, this has gotten a lot bigger since my last visit. Sorry about the delays and such! Also, about the PM bit, I'm not sure how to fix this. Check my profile though and message me on Skype, I'd love to see the progress!

Re: WinSP MBT: Das Reich
 

Crazy question, how applicable would it be to transplant your sound mods to SP:WW2? I'd really some of these meatier sounds but I'm not sure if they are the same values. Guess I'll have to play around with some .wav files and see what I can safely replace. :D

Re: WinSP MBT: Das Reich
 

Take a look at the spreadsheet I provided and you should be able to figure out more or less what goes where. A lot of my original work is additional i.e. I used empty slots. Having said that, 55 is the standard German AFV MG sound (its an MG42) 117 is also an MG42 and 44 is the flamethrower. Its all in the spreadsheet. Anyone heard from Scorpiorocks?

Re: WinSP MBT: Das Reich
 

Will get on it when I am back in Munich. Am presently abroad.

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I've not seen him. I suspect life overtook him for the time being! Thanks for the advice, by the by..

Re: WinSP MBT: Das Reich
 

Sorry, Real Life did indeed "overtake" me - estranged teenaged daughters...

Got back home this am - give me 24 hours to sort my home out and I will up the text.

Will grab latest up date too and check I dont need to make any changes.

Sorry for the delay.

Re: WinSP MBT: Das Reich
 

No problem :). I'm back from travels myself. Spent some time in the UK. Was good to be back over there.

Re: WinSP MBT: Das Reich
 

OK - Email sent :) Sorry it has taken so long.
Some comments may not follow your "history" and may need adjustment. also a few guesses in there.

A couple of minor adjustments needed in the OOBs:

OOB 35, Unit #247 Dates wrong - presumably should be as same unit in OOB 44, The armour also has steel and HEAT reversed for front turret (again good in other OOB).

OOB 35, Unit #826 (Wesserflug) wrong icon - still has drache icon rather than new icon (again correct in other OOB)

Looks like we are almost there :)

Re: WinSP MBT: Das Reich
 

E-Mail? From what I can tell I didn't receive one. Try posting the work up here. I'll download and incorporate it. Will take a look at those errors too.

Re: WinSP MBT: Das Reich
 

Huge apologies for the delays folks - teenaged daughters...

Not sure what happened to the email - here is first batch (around 500) of unit texts.
They should at least give you a starting point to add your own "history"

I will keep plodding away at the rest of the units (unless you hate what I've done so far!)

BETA TEST: Das Reich
 

Sorry another couple of Icon issues:

OoB 44: #169,171,174,176 variations of the SPzMsr. 60/2
all have various SAM pits rather than the APC mortar carrier

Re: WinSP MBT: Das Reich
 

Thanks! Great work! I am enjoying reading through the files. Will take a look at the broken icons.

Re: WinSP MBT: Das Reich
 

SITREP:

I will be reviewing the text files and incorporating them into the mod. Once that is done my team and I will make one final review and then I will release a public version of the mod compatible with version 8.0 of WinSPMBT.

Re: WinSP MBT: Das Reich
 

Would you like me to carry on creating text files or do you have enough?

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Yes please! If you could that would be great.

Re: WinSP MBT: Das Reich
 

Another batch of just over 100 text files attached :)

I could do with some info / background on:
Hyaene,
Bueffel,
Serval,
SSPz 44,
SSPz 60.

Sorry whilst I know the SSPz are amphibious APCs, is SSPz = SchwimmfähigSchützenpanzer?
(sorry my german is self taught and not great :o )

Batch 3 should do it!

Re: WinSP MBT: Das Reich
 

Hi Scorpio,

"SSPz" stands for Schwimmschützenpanzer (amphib. APC). Sorry for the lateness of my reply. Have been a little under the weather. Thanks for the textfiles. Will take a look at them and integrate them too asap. I've been re-doing a lot of the lbms to get rid of the unsightly black borders as best as possible. Had to get creative in some cases. Will post up the results asap in the usual spot.

Regards,

Monty

Re: WinSP MBT: Das Reich
 

The Hyäne is a light-to-medium cavalry tank (think Walker Bulldog or PT-76)based on the chassis of the E-25 (which incidentally is also the basis for the Jagdpanzer Jaguar). It is purely hypothetical and is supposed to serve as the mainstay of the colonial quick reaction force's armoured corps.

The Büffel is an IFV (similar to the Bundeswehr's Marder) and is based on the E-50 chassis. It is available only in SS/Gardekorps mechanised formations. It is also hypothetical afaik.

The Serval is a light (airmobile / transportable) tankette based on the E-10 chassis (similar to the Russian airborne tanks). It is used in support of airmobile formations and paratroops. It is purely hypothetical.

SSPz. 44 is based on the Landwasserschlepper II. It is an extrapolation of what a German amphibious APC may have looked like. It is analogous to the US LVTs of WWII. It is hypothetical.

The SSPz. 60 is a logical extrapolation (analogous to the USA's LVT designs of the late 50s and early 60s - LVT-5s - but with some Soviet influences thrown in for good measure).

Re: WinSP MBT: Das Reich
 

So glad to see work continues on this. Its really revitalized Steel Panthers for me, and the work you two have put into bringing it to life is incredible. Cannot wait for the final version :)

Re: WinSP MBT: Das Reich
 

Third (and probably last) batch of text files!

Plus all 750 (some redone/editted)

Most vehicles done, a few aircraft/helos done (sorry no idea on most of the aircraft). Havent done any infantry or artillery pieces - I'm guessing their info is more likely in the formations texts.

Please let me know if you need/want more or if you need changes.

Re: WinSP MBT: Das Reich
 

Am I blind... or where can I get the actual mod?

Re: WinSP MBT: Das Reich
 

Monty has only released a limited beta to a few of us for testing. He's still working on the final release which will hopefully be ready before the year's out. Trust me, it'll be worth the wait. :cool:

Re: WinSP MBT: Das Reich
 

UPDATE!

Here is what I would call the final version of the beta before the general release. Take a close look at icons, .lbms and unit text (especially the heavy tanks) to see if everything fits properly. Please also take a look at some of the more complex Companies to see if the full load-out is there Check both versions of 35 as well if you can.

Report back within a week and then, if everything is fine(although I have not done all the textfiles for formations and although I might want to make a few more tweaks here and there) I'll release to the general public.

I think I've kept my lid on this long enough. I can always wait until Christmas to bring out the final polish.

Update is in the usual place (Update 21.10.2015)

Re: WinSP MBT: Das Reich
 

Couple bugs to report:

The PzH.18m Hummel crashes the game when you click on the "Information" tab in its unit card. I suspect this is due to improper formatting in one of the text files but as I don't know much about that, I cannot be sure. It still fires, moves and behaves normally otherwise as long as you don't press that button!

Some of the SS/Guards units (from late 1980's on) are lacking their LBM's but this is easily fixed for the most part. Pretty minor error.

Re: WinSP MBT: Das Reich
 

A couple of others do it too - looking in to it...

Also a couple of problems with some of the text files editted by Monty.

will give full report after weekend (I have a "significant" birthday to survive first lol)

Re: WinSP MBT: Das Reich
 

This is probably hardcoded and I don't think Monty can fix this, but I really wish I could get some more airstrikes as the Empire. :)

I do get some but jeeze, I'm drowning in Russian, Israeli and American aircraft almost every battle. At least if I had more strikes of my own I could return the favor...

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Which ones?

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Well then... , congratulations are in order! :) Happy Birthday, in advance!

Download the latest text files. I've been working almost around the clock and have quite a few done by now. Put them in the same folder.

Re: WinSP MBT: Das Reich
 

In campaigns? I've not done any pick lists. Don't know how.

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Could be that some of the text files have umlauts "ä, ü, or ö" in them. The game does not like them. I've already edited them out where I could find them. Its easy really. You just write ae, oe, or ue instead.

I've also realised that some of my text files don't fit (from left to right). I've fixed those. They've been posted up. I'll post some more up tonight.