Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

I also tried to PM LL. Seems like he's having some trouble, but we are still getting the delays. With an extra admin, the missing players issue could be solved, but LL would need to give the pass to someone else.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

I PMed the late Caelum and Gath both, with no answers. The important thing would be the new Caelum get his email to llamaserver, and only LL can get it done.

Also, I wonder what this means?


PLUS, now I also PMed AlbrechtTheObscure who offered to sub Caelum....

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

I'm more than happy to sub in for caelum.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

It means that last week there was more than one player absent but we continued to play our turns. It was a call to do a quick fix before going on.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Immaculate submitted his turn, so feel free to play yours, guys!

Also, should we try and find sub for Gath even without his consent because he dissapeared completely?

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

I'm not sure that Gath is in a position wherein a sub would benefit him much. Jomon going AI is much more regrettable than Gath disappearing, with respect to how it'll impact the game going forward. What we really need at this point is for LL to show up and either pass off admin duties to someone else, and/or hurry up and get Caelum subbed before ANOTHER unnecessary stale rolls through. It looks like another admin might be in order soon anyway, as Ulm seems to be getting the worst of their exchanges with Patala...

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

So, post a paw if your fighting with Gath! I am bordering him and havent seen any sings of any1 taking advantage of the situation yet, not to mention him fighting with any1 except scavenging the spoils of Utgård.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

mattyburn7: I don't suppose the admin password for this game is the same as the LL used for BSoD? As much as I hate the idea of someone hijacking admin, even temporarily, it'd be really convenient to prevent further stales and get some subs in.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Gath Capital is on siege by Marignon. That would be getting a capital from an enemy who isn't fighting back. I'm forced into a similar position now with an AI Jomon by my side. But at least I tried to stop this from happening, because it's not fair for other players.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

I C, and, I also C why he left now.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

My war with Gath began before he started to stale, and followed a proper 3-turn notice ending our NAP-3. Casus Belli was brought on by his unnecessary and unduly-threatening troop buildup on our border (as there was no other reasonable place for them to go other than into my territory, I had no choice but to view the existence of a large army of giants as potentially threatening).

NAP termination was given and received on turn 17, and hostilities between our nations broke out on turn 20. Although I deeply regret that Gath has elected not to mount a stronger defense of his peoples, this attitude further justifies my moral high-ground in liberating his peoples from the tyranny of cannibalistic giants who clearly have no regard for their well-being.

That the majority of Gath's forces fell while still under command of their erstwhile God-King furthers my case for continuance of this action, until such time as we are able to secure our borders against the threat of future aggression, and provide the citizenry of Marignon with the prospect of the safe, productive, and happy lives that they so richly deserve.

Let us not lump this just and declared engagement in with the unprovoked and unjustified predations that are happening elsewhere along the borders of Gath and Jomon. That there is a large power vacuum is obvious to everyone surrounding them, and I have no doubt that a peaceable and sensible resolution will sort itself out among all affected nations over the coming months. Engaging in unprovoked and ill-informed public speculation as to the rights and motives of your neighbors is hardly the best way to solve these issues.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

I'm not blaming it entirely on you. I'm sure you had your reasons and differences with Gath so you two ended up warring each other. But I'm not doing ill-informed public speculation. I'm just saying you continued your war with them even when he had stalled four turns in a row and without saying anything here about it. If memory serves me right, you weren't besieging their capital four or three turns ago. True, they could be badly hurt by that moment but at least in my view that doesn't justify silently taking their staling capital. And I doubt, if given the proper public notice, that anyone would've tried to grab a prize that you were in a better position to claim.
Maybe I'm nitpicking and I'm too much into making moral stands (I'm blaming you Albert Camus) but I still believe there was a better form to proceed.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

What went down, went down. Now we need a sub to give Gath a clean death fast. And a postponement of the next host until one is found.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Perhaps you're right; I chose to view it as an internal matter. From my viewpoint, as Gath's ability to make war had been effectively neutered, there was little difference in the actions open to him whether his nation was controlled by sentience, AI, or uncontrolled entirely - so I simply followed my initial course of action, which was necessitated by his actions in the first place.

I also second the vote for postponement until the Caelum sub, at least, can take over that nation - finding a sub for Gath at this point is unnecessary, although I certainly wouldn't mind someone taking them over if they wanted to. I'd argue against having someone set them to AI, as the AI's handling of siege mechanics is pitiful and it's frankly more difficult to beat a staled army in a siege.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Legendary League delayed the host. Now I asked him to change the emails for both Caelum and Gath, it shouldnt be impossible to get this going already today.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Guys, just remember to click "request turn resend" -button when your email might be in, at the bottom of the game page on Llama.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Sorry guys. Life has been very busy. I just saw Kungfoos post and I'll check on password.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Different password anyway. It sounds like LL is administering this game.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

I still see this as hosting in ~5 hours

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

I thought the original hosting time was this morning, and it got postponed 12H but mayhaps I was mistaken.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

You are not mistaken.

BTW, I also support that we wait until AlbertTheObscure has taken Caelum. I can see that the nation had a good start and it would be bad to let it stale more.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

I'm keeping tabs on this thread/my PMs/etc, but I haven't gotten any word yet, and I had the turn resent earlier today (but didn't get it) so I'm assuming that I'm not subbed in yet.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Hope we can get the two subbing players in. I was really liking the kind of drama diplomacy that no-graphs brings to the game; not many strategy games can provide that.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

The last resort is to turn to Llama. We need some1 to step up, ask him to override the old passw and they take over the admin duties.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Should probably just go ahead and do that now, as this has been going on for over a week.

I nominate Anaconda as the new admin, if he's able to; if not, probably either Lunaje or myself, just going by forum activity.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

I am hosting currently 2,5 games, could you do it?

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Yeah, sure. Just sent a pm to llama.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

I could do it if needed, but mind you I've never been an admin before.
I'm fine if Kungfoo decides to take the Fantasy Man's Burden of keeping this world in proper check; so maybe we can survive this awol storm.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

People are too worried about hosting games, its far less complicated than it sounds. Once you do it, your exited to do it again. I would but I got hands full with other games atm :(

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Yea. Hosting is very straightforward. Just have to make sure you at least check boards/PM's occasioally for delays...I mean. Even I can do it and I'm an idiot!

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Chelms want to trade for some astral pearls, we can offer N, D, E or A gems. Anyone who is interested please feel free to give me a PM.

And hopefully we can get a new admin soon.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Llama is, for example, currently online. So whats up with the hijack?

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

I'm still waiting on a reply.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Done! :)

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Thanks llama!

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Now Assuming Direct Control.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

How about changing to 48 hour turn?

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Nice !
And welcome to the subbing players.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

I think we're far enough into the game for 48h turns to make sense.

Changing hosting to 48h if no one objects.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

sounds great. also get Gath's sub in so he can put up at least nominal resistance.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Sent him a pm, although if you have his email address just send it to me and I'll make the changes immediately.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Its interesting to note that despite all the difficulties with administration, LL managed to not stale this turn.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Gath has been handed over to lucheng, and we're now back to a full suite of participants.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Hello, everyone. I am now the new leader of Gath.
Marrigon is sieging my capitol at the moment. The war will continue.

Lucheng/Gath

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Caelum has requested a 12h extension to properly acclimate to his new nation. I'm putting this through; normal hosting schedule will resume following this turn.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

OK.
Comrades, I found something interesting.
What can be a reason of summoning 100+ Sea Trolls (one by one) at this point of a game?

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Someone is summoning them?

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

Attacking R'lyeh! Who, actually, is doing this?

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

At the moment they're more likely to be repairing bricks in castle walls than attacking anyone.

Re: LA Newbie Game: Blood Sacrifices (BS!) [Started] [14/14]
 

You mean that 100 sea trolls are unable to break siege? :shock:
Must be some powerful army over there...