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shunwick August 10th, 2012 05:19 PM

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All the hot trashy sex scenes will be done in the best possible taste and only because they are necessary for the story. Explosions by the bucketfull.

shunwick August 10th, 2012 05:23 PM

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You know, I like Dominions 3 just as a game. I'm not vey good at it yet but I am learning. However, I really like the role-playing aspect of MP. Sadly, this will probably be my last MP game for a while. I must learn how to play the game better before I venture into MP again.

shunwick August 10th, 2012 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Gokufan1988 (Post 809480)
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Originally Posted by shunwick (Post 809472)
Gokufan1988,

Well, speaking as the leader of the two armies you have just crushed, are you sure you are finished?

Best wishes,
Steve

Well I've got 1 province and like 5 mages and 40 troops left. Anything I did would just be thrashing around before someone puts me out of my misery, and the AI is pretty competent at doing that.

It has been great fun playing the game with you and I hope to see you again on another battelfield some day. All the best.

AreaOfEffect August 10th, 2012 06:33 PM

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Shunwick, the best way to learn how to play, in my opinion, is to play more MP games. Also, your knowledge of the spells can be the most limiting factor in this game. With the right spells, paired with the right mages, 5 plus 40 dudes can route almost any early game opposition. Last of all, you will never learn the most essential aspect of MP by playing alone, which is diplomacy. That said, I'm glad to hear your doing so well so far. Good luck to you.

Everyone, I've extended the timer to 36 hours. We are going along on at a good pace and I don't want to lose that. Still, people are heading into player verse player mid-game conflicts, which requires more attention. Gath vs Ermor, Ulm vs Mictlan, Atlantis vs Marignon, and Pythium vs Robot Abyssia are all examples of current or upcoming conflicts.

Groundworm August 11th, 2012 03:28 AM

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shunwick, I fully agree with AreaOfEffect. When I started playing MP Dominions 3, I was awed by what an awesome spell Falling Fires is. I had absolutely no idea what I was doing on any level- I didn't know the spells or even how the magic system worked, I was unaware how to script or where to position my units, didn't know how defense and protection worked, didn't know about fatigue, etc. Forget about late-game magic, communions, and thugs/SCs... way over my head. And how to build a pretender or what strategies to use... yeah, still haven't figured that out.

But playing MP is an excellent way to learn, even if it is a trial by fire. You'll lose. A lot. I've played about 15 games so far and have one only 1, and consider myself happy to have won even that one. As long as you have fun in MP, keep doing it, and you absolutely will get better. Part of improving is seeing what your enemies do and taking their tricks for your own! :)

YellowCactus August 11th, 2012 09:52 AM

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Yep Yep! +1 to the above posts!

Some of the best players never win the game. (They are just too scary, and people team up on them!) But the devil is in the details.

Build lots of scouts, try to catch a view of battles between experienced players. Everyone has different styles. One guy might have great coverage with battlefield mages, while another player builds strong diplomacy. There are a few 'Game Winners' in the late game, but I'm not very experienced in late game, just know you want to team up on anyone who casts certain spells like...

Burdon of Time: Kills off everything that isn't Undead. Ermor
Darkness: All provinces yield 1/10th gold, armies can't fight well. Used by Nations with Darkvision
Astral Corruption: Kills off all mages! Used by Blood nations.
Gift of Health with Tartarian Gates: Cures the afflictions of HUGE magic undead SC's.
There's a spell that gives you 1/3 of all Gems used every turn by all players......(WOW)

Some battlefield Combonations to watch out for....

Super Combatants: Single Hero with fancy equipment. You want to know how the enemy is equiping SC's before you meet them on the battlefield. If the enemy has high Defense, try to swarm them. If they have high Protection, use armor piercing/negating attacks. If they have low moral or magic resistance, use that against them. There is always a weakness.

If you see a faction using an element to destroy entire armies, start fabricating items to protect against that element.

Example is Caelum calling Storms and then electrocuting entire armies on the battlefield.

Oh, now I'm rambling...Just make sure you have lots of scouts in the field. They are your best defense, and strategic edge!

shunwick August 11th, 2012 12:50 PM

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Guys,

Thanks for the encouragement but I am still too new to the game and I don't have that much time to spare. So it better for me, at the moment, to concentrate on playing little test games to try to understand how some this stuff works.

I am not going to be gone for long and I do appreciate that MP is the best way to learn the game. When this game is finished I shall take a couple of months to sort out the basics and then I can return to MP.

Best wishes,
Steve

YellowCactus August 11th, 2012 01:20 PM

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lolz,

By then it will be 2013 and you will be wanting some BLOOD!

We will see!

shunwick August 11th, 2012 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by YellowCactus (Post 809527)
lolz,

By then it will be 2013 and you will be wanting some BLOOD!

We will see!

You may well be right.

shunwick August 11th, 2012 06:23 PM

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In other news, the triumphant counter attack by Abyssia continues. It seems that the Abyssian Wars are entering a new phase. As the shattered armies of Pythium withdraw through the mountains they are being chased hard by the rampant Abyssians.

Asked if the Pythium retreat would continue, General Voldan explained, "We are not retreating. We are simply advancing in different direction."

In the Pythium capital, the Central Committee are meeting in closed session to discuss the disaster that has befallen the 1st and 5th armies. There are rumours of a power struggle behind the scenes and at least one member of the Central Committee has questioned the competance of the General Secretary, Vsevolod. Whether or not he can hold onto the reins of power remains to be seen.

Open criticism of the General Secretary is bound to undermine his position and it is interesting to note that the front page of Advarp, Pythium's national newspaper, features a prominent piece praising the recent work of Paghat, the current Chairman of the Intelligence Directorate.

The Democratic and Peace-Loving Peoples of Pythium await further news.

HoleyDooley August 11th, 2012 10:04 PM

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Nice read shun.

YellowCactus August 12th, 2012 12:19 AM

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So...What's going on with this Great Undead Nation of Ermor????

Have they hit critical mass yet?

shunwick August 12th, 2012 09:17 AM

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Comrade Paghat, Chairman of the Intelligence Directorate, today issued an announcement calling for the formation of an Anti-Emorian Crusade. In a daring speech in front of Pythium's Palace of Heroes, he called on all nations to unite in brotherhood to end the eternal threat posed by this most unholy of nations.

"Even now, this vast evil is assembling its armies for the conquest of all the land," he said. "It is time for the living to unite against the undead hordes."

"It is known that the Empires of Gath and Patala border onto Emorian lands and that the Empires of Agartha, Mictlan, and T'ien Ch'i are either already in contact with the Emorian Legions or soon will be. Ermor is located in province 188 by the reckoning of the ancients," he revealed.

"Nero, God of Shadows, knows only the hunger for living flesh and the hatred of life itself. He must be destroyed!"

It is unclear if this announcement is a serious attempt to form an anti-Emorian alliance or if it is a power play designed to solidify the Chairmain's position as he manoeuvres into position to challenge the General Secretary for the leadership position.

However, it is clear, that the sentiments expressed by Comrade Paghat, met with overwheleming approval by the toilling masses many of whom gathered outside the Palace and loudly cheered his speech.

He may have overplayed his hand, though. Comrade General Clodius, commander of the 2nd Pythium Army Group and also known as "The Proph", issued a statement from the Abyssian battlefields pointing out that only he had the authority to call for a crusade. Such disunity among the Pythium leadership cannot be good for long term prospects.

The Democratic and Peace-Loving Peoples of Pythium await further news.

Jolly Roger August 12th, 2012 06:02 PM

Important Information - Vacation !!
 
Gentlemen,

I´ll be in holidays now.

JimboJones will replace me for that period.

Please send the files to his email adress now.

Thanks, Klaus

AreaOfEffect August 12th, 2012 10:40 PM

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I need an email address.

AreaOfEffect August 14th, 2012 12:07 AM

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Starting late tomorrow I'll be on my way to Gen Con. While in Indianapolis I should have opportunities to submit my turns and respond to diplomatic missives. Though I can't make any guarantees. Also, it will be hardest for me to submit my turn from Tuesday Night to Wednesday Night as I should be in transit for most of the time. Just a heads up. I may delay the game several hours during that span of time.

AreaOfEffect August 14th, 2012 08:22 AM

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Need astral and death gems (batches of 5 gems preferred). I have excess of nature and water. PM for trade.

Gargouille August 14th, 2012 03:48 PM

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Utgard forces have attacked a little defended province of our realm, so let's make war against them, and we will hurt them, they will suffer and have heavy losses. Take this opportunity to ravage the Utgard kingdom.
Caelum are liars, they talk about peace, but they massed very large forces on our border. They will also suffer because our largest army is ready to sacrifice for the defense of our ancestral lands. We ask neighbors of Caelum to attack these liars.
We may be defeated, but we own two large armies that will hit hard at our enemies.
We have been faithful to our covenants, we have only one word, we are not traitors and liars, we are ready to fight, we'll take to the grave numbers of scoundrels who covet our lands.

YellowCactus August 14th, 2012 10:54 PM

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You tell them Gargouille! Double teaming two timing backstabbers!!!!!

HoleyDooley August 15th, 2012 07:30 AM

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Thats right, and considering my (Caleum) forces are there to protect my castle being built are about 1/2 the size of Jomons troops, its laughable that he accuses me of being aggressive.

Still it seems he wants to fight.......and I have no idea about Jotum attacking him as Jotum is currently at war with Ulm.....

This a bad case of jumping to conclusions...that could end badly for him.

AreaOfEffect August 15th, 2012 09:40 AM

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jimbojones1971 has asked for a 24 hour extension in order to know his situation.

From now on I ask people post their requests for extensions on the forum, not as a PM to me. This way I don't have to explain what is going on.

Gargouille August 15th, 2012 01:52 PM

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Caelum, "my army is here" since the conquest of the province, this is my "first force", with my predenter, and you have received confirmation that I would not attack you (i can attack you since my arrival and i have not done... my ninjas watching you, not kill you). Your forces are new, and they are realy big (not 1/2 but 1/1 and you have elephants). I'm not a liar, if you not attack, i will stay in peace with you.
For Utgard, my second force come, next month begin "first cry of giant".
Jomon are proud warriors, not traitors or crazy.

YellowCactus August 15th, 2012 05:19 PM

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Gargouille has it right! When enemies attack from all sides, there's only one thing to do!!!! Fight Fight Fight!

However, given the strength of Pythium's Diplomatic Council, perhaps an anti-cold Dominion Collective should be formed. Caelum and Giants are natural bed partners...

Other Gods should not allow this Tyrany of Frost to continue!!!

dark7element August 15th, 2012 06:39 PM

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Hmm, I hadn't been seriously considering it, but I like Yellowcactus's idea! Hey, Caelum! Wanna establish the Tyranny of Frost together?

Edit: Oh, and by the way, to Gargouille/Jomon: You had your chance to offer me a NAP when your huge-*** army led by you yourself (I.E. the celestial general) came into contact with my borders. Since you didn't offer one, I assumed that meant you thought you were tough and didn't think I was a threat. My beloved giants are hungry for war and conquest, but if you want to spare your army of tiny peasants any further humiliation, I'll be glad to give you peace for 10 turns... for a sum of 500 gold, delivered up front.

Gargouille August 16th, 2012 08:03 AM

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Dear giants, we know you are big strength and small brain. You can leave our land, and we forget your stupidity. You can give us 500 gold and we stop our army and revenge. Otherwise, your loss will be considerable. Why your troop enter in our land? You see we not fight against you. Our border is only PD and small troop. We have a poor land, you see that, why attack us?
This is our last offer: "Utgard go home now".

Gargouille August 16th, 2012 08:23 PM

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We see 260 troops of Caelum. Caelum say me "peace", it's for laugh?
Caelum, you say me NAP3, NAP3 is big ****?

Tiavals August 17th, 2012 04:01 AM

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The proud giants of Gath have been overrun and will be consumed by the walking dead within months. All is lost!

HoleyDooley August 17th, 2012 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Gargouille (Post 809722)
We see 260 troops of Caelum. Caelum say me "peace", it's for laugh?
Caelum, you say me NAP3, NAP3 is big ****?


Garg, I have offered you a NAP 3, take it or leave it!

I have never broken a NAP in any other game....you can do the math from there.

The province you are constantly whinging about with my troops also borders Utgard.....I don't hear him complaining and I have had limited discussion with him full stop.

Your ranting is hilarious and I enjoy reading it, as I am sure most of the others do too.

In reality though, you are saying "I am scared" and painting a big 'bulls eye" on yourself.

HoleyDooley August 17th, 2012 04:11 AM

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Ah guys, I don't want to start a panic, but in another game recently finished, LA Ermor, cleverly played by Rev2, was unstoppable once he got a decent start in the game.

I suggest the neighbours of Ermor start communicating with each other very quickly or you will be searching the forums for a new game starting.

shunwick August 17th, 2012 04:57 AM

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AreaOfEffect,

I am having problems with my computer. I am in receipt of turn 22 and I request 48 hours extension. Sorry about this.

If I can't solve the computer problems quickly, I may have to withdraw from the game rather than hold up eveyone else. I certainly hope it does not come to that because I am enjoying this game.

Best wishes,
Steve

revenant2 August 17th, 2012 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by HoleyDooley (Post 809727)
Ah guys, I don't want to start a panic, but in another game recently finished, LA Ermor, cleverly played by Rev2, was unstoppable once he got a decent start in the game.

I suggest the neighbours of Ermor start communicating with each other very quickly or you will be searching the forums for a new game starting.

A little birdie told me that Gath's capitol is in serious danger by a horde of Ermorian undead.

Ermor's capitol is quite some distance away (6+ squares), and it's already turn 22. If they are able to mount this type of offensive operation at this stage of the game then there's little hope of knocking our undead friends out early, which doesn't bode well for his neighbors.

It might be time to prepare for a zombie apocalypse. Can anyone out there forge a death staff for us? We have astral, air, earth, and nature gems we can compensate you with.

YellowCactus August 17th, 2012 07:23 AM

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When the Hunger of the Dead is Aroused.....No Province is Safe!

Reverend Zombie August 17th, 2012 08:39 AM

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Marignon, the last, best hope against the Ermorian hordes, is short-sightedly under attack by the fools in Man and Atlantis.

danbo August 17th, 2012 08:52 AM

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Marignon, Atlantis didn't react when you were massing forces on my border but recruiting of amphibian troops was obvious declaration of war.

Reverend Zombie August 17th, 2012 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by danbo (Post 809753)
Marignon, Atlantis didn't react when you were massing forces on my border but recruiting of amphibian troops was obvious declaration of war.

Or prudent, albeit ineffective, deterrent, given your warlike nature.

AreaOfEffect August 17th, 2012 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Reverend Zombie (Post 809757)
Quote:

Originally Posted by danbo (Post 809753)
Marignon, Atlantis didn't react when you were massing forces on my border but recruiting of amphibian troops was obvious declaration of war.

Or prudent, albeit ineffective, deterrent, given your warlike nature.

Actually, a little birdie told me that it was Marignon that dropped the NAP between Marignon and Atlantis first.

AreaOfEffect August 17th, 2012 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by shunwick (Post 809729)
AreaOfEffect,

I am having problems with my computer. I am in receipt of turn 22 and I request 48 hours extension. Sorry about this.

If I can't solve the computer problems quickly, I may have to withdraw from the game rather than hold up eveyone else. I certainly hope it does not come to that because I am enjoying this game.

Best wishes,
Steve

Extension Granted. I hope all goes well.

Reverend Zombie August 17th, 2012 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AreaOfEffect (Post 809770)
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Originally Posted by Reverend Zombie (Post 809757)
Quote:

Originally Posted by danbo (Post 809753)
Marignon, Atlantis didn't react when you were massing forces on my border but recruiting of amphibian troops was obvious declaration of war.

Or prudent, albeit ineffective, deterrent, given your warlike nature.

Actually, a little birdie told me that it was Marignon that dropped the NAP between Marignon and Atlantis first.

:re:

As far as I recall, Atlantis and Marignon did not have a NAP. Else, I would have added treachery to my accusations of war-mongering and short-sightedness, for Atlantis' attack was without warning.

Ashix August 17th, 2012 05:59 PM

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Aaaaaand finally my forum account is approved!

For the record, I guess I'm the first "NAP Breaker"... but Utgard did declare it over, and had a massive army headed straight for Ulm's capitol. I could see a massive host of giants heading up the coast, and 3 turns *just happened* to be enough time for him to wade into my capitol. I figured it might be prudent to meet him in an adjacent province, since he declared the NAP over anyway.

I'm surprised I lasted 20 turns in my first MP game ever :) I'll have to try this again!

YellowCactus August 17th, 2012 07:00 PM

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Good Play Ashix!

Mictlan only attacked because you were the only neighbor that didn't reply to messages. (Making you the most chaotic neighbor, No offense Rev2)

shunwick August 19th, 2012 07:02 AM

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AreaOfEffect,

My computer is (hopefully) fixed. Thanks for the extension.

Best wishes,
Steve

YellowCactus August 19th, 2012 09:02 AM

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Yay! Time to get a creditcard and go shopping at newegg Shunwick!

Luck! (Fingers crossed for aging hardware, both mine and yours!)

shunwick August 20th, 2012 06:18 AM

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The look I got when I said, "Can't you just jiggle it a bit?" was priceless. About the only thing that was.

Gargouille August 20th, 2012 07:38 PM

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We will not attack Caelum, if they do not attack us. Jomon want fight against evil, not against people of the sky.

Unoptimized August 23rd, 2012 06:33 PM

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*Ahem*

It should be noted that the silent lands of Ermor are not as foreboding as one might be led to believe, given the fiery rhetoric being brandied about. We have spent quite a bit of time and energy wiping out the Giants of Gath such that they would not become the horrific force we all know they could become.

There will be a period where we consolidate, and so there is little need to worry about us becoming some sort of unstoppable Juggernaut.

Gargouille August 23rd, 2012 07:35 PM

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Hard to understand.
An allied say me, attack with me Atlantis, i lose in south more 100 mens in this fight.
After my force go in north for fight giants, and now Atlentis take my province in south.
Where are my allied, my allied are only words?

Gargouille August 23rd, 2012 07:46 PM

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Utgard, you go home, it's good, all my land is mine. I take "druid land", for my peace, the border now is the river. Stay in your land, stop stupidity.

Gargouille August 23rd, 2012 08:09 PM

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In the begining we speak with Caelum, people of the sky. We say, take independents. All you take is your. But Caelum lose his prophet (my ninja see), in fight against rich country. After, i take this rich country. If Caelum is right, this is my land, isn't it? Why Caelum army stay here, next this rich province?

Gargouille August 23rd, 2012 08:24 PM

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I can lose almost my land, this is poor land (and i defend magic land). My land is moutain, but is small land, all my force can be in fight with two months. We lose 100+ men, in underwater fight, this is a small force for fight underwater, this force is dead, but all our best fighters are alive.

dark7element August 23rd, 2012 09:02 PM

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The great enchantress Geirdriful is glad to see that the Celestial General's army is planning to take Druid land. That is good. You see, there is a laboratory in Druid Land, and it will be useful when the time comes for our sorceresses to reanimate the dismembered corpse of Jomon's soldiers.

Utgard assures you, the army you meet in Druid Land will be more than a match for anything the Celestial General can muster. Druid Land will be the doom of the Army of the East. If your troops are too scared to advance, do not worry, our fully mustered army will soon come and find you. Just because we have chosen to strategically retreat from a couple of provinces doesn't mean we believe Jomon has any chance of winning this war. The soldiers of Jomon are puny, even compared to the humans of Utgard. Their menfolk are prancing little ninnies who can't even grow a proper beard nor drink even half a keg of mead, and their womenfolk are delicate little flowers who look like they would wither away in an Utgard blizzard, not at all like the mighty sorceresses of the Well of Urd. And that is only comparing them to our humans... For our giants, the warriors of Jomon are like toy soldiers, their flimsy spears suited only for being a jotun's toothpick. We say all these things not out of malice, but because they are true. Once we have beaten their army we will offer Jomon merciful terms of truce.


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