Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

I can already tell you how things will go: I'm hatching a plan so fiendish and terrible that your army of fire-monkeys will soon be running in abject terror before my resurgent power.

That's the plan anyway, although I might have a few pesky details to work out :)

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

Well.. bring it on? :)

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

Ooh, nice work Brain_Caster - Arcane Nexus is up!

In my eyes that means you feel that you are in a winning position. Can't really argue that, looking at the score graphs.

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

Fighting a three on one war makes me a Sad Panda. :'(

Curiously does Abysia,Tien Chi, or Ermor mind if they tell me how the war south of me is going? Tien Chi seems to be a lot better off then I remember them being. :)

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

I think you need to fire your intelligence minister because our war has been...well, let's just say that it's been a challenge.

Check in with us in a few turns. We'll either be knocked out of the game or Abysia will be crying in despair.

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

Oh wow. I didn't realize Arcane Nexus is up.

Not to be the master of the obvious, but this enchant needs to be taken out pronto or Ermor will win the game.

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

Does anyone have an astral 9 pretender? I have a couple of hundred astral gems I can donate to the cause, or I can attempt to dispel it myself, but I doubt it will be enough.

If not, you guys better focus fire on Ermor. I'm not in a great position to contribute armed forces since Abysia is about to come for my throat, but I'll help you however I can.

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

I'm in the market for a Staff of Storms. If you're able and willing to craft this for me and you're not Ermor, then please let me know.

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

Hey Abysia.

You don't have private chat setup, so I'll send this publicly instead in hopes that you read it.

You're getting ready to assault my capitol, but I'm pretty sure you still don't have enough troops and I've built a lot of nice counters that I'm pretty sure will cause a lot of damage to you. You might not know it, but your army is extremely vulnerable to fire-immune thugs/scs. Even if you win against me, you'll soon lose to Ermor. Note to everyone else: this applies to you all as well.

I'm just a sub and don't mind duking it out (it will be fun to see how well my fortress defense works out), but I think you should consider turning your forces against Ermor with me. I'm sure we can gain some nice territory :)

If you agree, I'm going to need you pull away from 7, 14, and 31 so I can reclaim some lands to further my war effort. This will give you a pathway via 28 to attack into Ermor.

I'm also accepting donations to dispel Arcane Nexus. If you have extra astral gems, please send them my way. If you don't quite trust me, I think Matty would vouch for me in this game. This applies to everyone else who doesn't want to lose as well :)

One more thing. I've been trying to kill my prophet for the past couple of turns (he's mute, blind in one eye, and has a serious chest wound), but he refuses to die. He's moving into 28 this turn. Kindly put some extra PD in here so you can put him out of his misery.

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

I agree with revenant2, Ermor is doing too well, and if he can keep Arcane Nexus up he will race to victory uncontested.

The mighty nation of Kailasa cancels the non-aggression pact with Ermor right now. I suggest that everyone else also follows the same course.

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

Rev is correct. Once a nation hits a certain point, there is no stopping him. Ermor is either there or just about there. That gem and research lead combined with arcane nexus on top is a guaranteed game winner.
I'm traveling today, but later today I'll check my gem count and will be happy to contribute. I'll also be sending diplomatic notes out (I owe you one Arco and I also owe you gems in light of all this, but I might be able to get you out of the Tir mess anyway).

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

Damn, I cast a neat global enchantment, and suddenly everyone talks about pooling freaking hundreds of gems to dispel it and declaring war on me...

Anyway... as Kailasa just declared war on me and obviously intends to commit the aggressive act of dispelling my ruinously expensive enchantment this very turn, rather than respect the NAP-12, I can't say I'm too fond of the apes right now. The Senate and the People of Ermor loathe oathbreaker.


Thus, in anticipation of Kailasa's dispelling of my Arcane Nexus, I hereby wish to make the following offer to Oceania and Tir na n'Og. This offer can be considered effective from the moment on which the Nexus will be dispelled:


Let's partition Kailasa between the two of you.

Ermoran armies shall fight side by side with TNN's an Oceania's forces, and liberate the people from the monkeys' yoke. Ermor itself understands that such a war would be a much greater effort for the two smaller nations of Oceania and Tir na n'Og, and as such we would be willing to let you have all of Kailasa's provinces, even if Ermor should be the one to shatter Kailasa's armies. PM me, and we'll arrange the details.

With the utmost respect,

Senatus Populusque Ermorus

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

Nice propaganda :)

I have no intentions of dispelling your Arcane Nexus. Nor am I currently attacking you in any way. Though I shall be happy if someone else does it... Currently any spells cast will make you - the undisputed leader - even stronger.

What I have done is this: I cancelled our non-aggression pact. Whatever happens after the cooldown period will remain to be seen. I trust my fellow players, just check the score graphs and see where the game is heading.

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

It's quite obvious that you intend to do so, or at least plan to have someone else do it for you next turn. With a spell fuelled by Kailasan gems, I suspect.

And I am not blind to the strategical realities. If Ermor falls, Kailasa will win the game. It is Kailasa which has the greatest interest in forming a coalition against me. Tien Chi is about to be conquere by Abysia, and would be an utter fool to provoce Ermor's ire in addition... unless Kailasa had promised them support, leading Tien Chi to believe Ermor would be too distracted to fight them...

I do not believe the ruler of Tien Chi to be a fool.


Well, Oceania, TNN, allow me to make my counteroffer: If my Arcane Nexus is dispelled, as I've come to expect it will be, by either Kailasa or Tien Chi, I'll assume Kailasa is behind it, and help you take all their povinces. At that point you will both be in a position where you have a chance to win the game.

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

Could We have a 24 hour delay please. I'm on the road and there is much to digest in this one.

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

Added 24 hours as requested.

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

Too much diplomacy. Brain hurts. Need sleep.

(This is really fun though. I have no idea who will attack who and what will happen.)

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

Seconded. On both counts.

Good Night, everyone. I'll count the daggers in my back tomorrow morning. :p

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

Yes...I think I've been in this game about 3 turns and I've exchanged multiple diplomatic notes with everyone. Fun game..happy to see everyone so into it!

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

Braincaster, I am the ringleader behind this dispelling because you didn't even respond to my offer of massive amounts gems to order to nuke Tir Na Nog into non-existence. You should have at least said no thanks.

I am converting all of my gems into Astrals to make sure you wasted your casting of Arcane Nexus. I was only sending in my astrals to nuke you, but since you are flinging accusations and threats around, while having ignored me as potential ally I will be using the 300 hundred plus gems I offered you to nuke the hell out of you. It is time to pay for your arrogance.

You are my enemy because you are not my friend.

Kailassa and Oceania are my friends and allies, they listened when I offered gem bribes to fight my enemies. I am releasing them from any further obligation to defend me and my lands. I am only concerned with your destruction. Not for having refused me, but for ignoring me outright.

Anyway I have been slaughtering Tir Na Nog's helpless and defenseless little "geared up thugs" via seductive assassination. It is hard to use an army with no mage support.

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

And by the way, Braincaster the act of casting arcane nexus is generally considered a declaration of war against all other nations in the game. You basically nullify any oath or NAP when you cast it. Same goes for Burden of Time, Utterdark, Astral Corruption, and to a lesser extent sometimes Forge of the Ancients or Gift of Health.

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

Hey Happyfungi!

No need to throw your game away. We are all concerned about Ermor getting too powerful to stop. But let's all play to win, even if the win is an extremely remote chance.

I'll make a clear statement. Kailasa is at war with Tir na n'Og and allied with Arcoscephale. Partly because we made a deal Arcoscephale - partly because Tir na n'Og was not interested in making a hidden deal in the future against Ermor. We will use soft power to annoy the power hungry Ermor, but will not attack - for now.

I will also want to say this. I will not hold it against the player if you decide to backstab me. I think it's in the spirit of this game - there can only be one winner! I hope you all understand this. However, if anyone decides to backstab me I will of course retaliate with full force!

Good luck to all!

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

If he goes unchecked he wins, I have no chance of winning against him if he keeps up his killer global. I intend to win this game, I would not have taken on such a challenge just to lie down and give up all hope of winning, unlike my only enemy other than Ermor. Yes Tir Na Nog I am taling to you. I don't know what the last Arco player did you make you want to give up and lose the larger game just to destroy Arco. You simply don't give a damn about winning if you aren't full bore attacking Ermor with everything you have right now. I am and that is via my gem reserves.

Which would have been Ermor's had he not been so arrogant as to ignore my humble request to destroy you from afar.

Any player worth their salt knows who to attack at this stage of the game, if they really want to win. That is the player who will win if left unmolested, any player who is unwilling to work to crush Ermor is a quitter and a fool and should not be playing Dominions at all.

Winning is Everything your Pretender will die lost and forgotten if you fail to win, your goal is to achieve Supreme Godhood. If you aren't able to attack Ermor directly you should be sending crafted items and gems to those who are able to attack Ermor. If you don't like that idea you should be casting remote attack spells and province disrupting and unrest causing spells onto Ermor's lands. As long as Ermor sits upon it's lofty throne no one else can win and if you are not playing to win why are you even playing.

Ermor is playing to win. I say let the cowardly players continue to pick away at non entities since they will achieve nothing but derision and a bad name for themselves. Who would ever ally with someone who is unwilling or unable to see when the Void is Screaming their name with Ermor's lips. Let the losers who want to lose, waste their time on frivolous antics.

If the players who want to win, are able to overthrow the nightmare that is Ermor. They can all gang up without mercy on any player who didn't try from the very beginning to take to down the rogue Pretender who wanted to destroy Your Pretender. That is it He wants you ALL dead, while he may offer you lands and "partitions" what he is really selling you is your own slow humiliating death by cowardice. All I can say is "Die, cowards, Die the death of shame of having been kept around as Ermor's play toys."

I'll be converting those gems now to astral pearls to be used for Ermor killing. I can read the writing on the wall and it says" Kill Ermor or Die a Fool and a Coward."

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

Any allies I paid with gems should keep those gems and use them to fight Ermor. I will not insist that my allies Attack Tir Na Nog anymore. If you want to because of your own reasons that is up to you, you are no longer bound in anyway to feel obligated to me.

Basically if he isn't with us (us I would assume is every other player in game except for Ermor) then he is against us and I have no trouble with continuing to fight him and will work in what little ways I can with his enemies. If he isn't with us and you can't for some reason attack ermor yet I say we wipe him from the board as he will just backstab and betray to settle for second, third, or foruth in a game that has only two outcomes, Godhood or death.

If Tir Na Nog is with us, I will only ask to take back the lands adjacent to my capitol and the one lone land that is left behind my lines. I will concede all other lands I have lost to Tir Na Nog until the turn Ermor is eliminated. I vow to keep complete and total peace with Tir Na Nog and all other players until Ermor is dead. Then we can go back to doing what we all do best making our Pretenders Gods through forced conversion of the little people and the destruction of our more evenly matched enemies.

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

I'm 100% focused on going after Ermor. I don't have much of a prayer of winning this game, but I know the fastest way to lose is to let Ermor stand unchecked, so I'm going to do everything in my power to stop him.

Anyone who has a NAP with him now has a legitimate cause to immediately terminate their NAPs with him due to the game winning nature of the global, i.e., you have Casus beli.

My only question is who is going to dispel his global? I can do it, although I don't have enough gems. I'll happily give them to someone else or accept donations to do it on everyone's behalf, but let's decide who will be the caster so we can send in the gems this turn. The less turns he has to accumulate astral gems the better.

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

Great job with the astral gem donation everyone! Dispel coming next turn.

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

Just out of curiosity: How many of you guys currently ganging up on me in my very first non-duel newbie multi-player game are actually newbies?

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

This is my first multiplayer game of Dominions 3 ever!

However, I played in 3 multiplayer games of Dominions 2 like - hmm checking - 7 years ago! I never got into endgame though :( And just to record some history. I actually played in one game with that guy who had found a way to cheat in Dominions 2, can't remember the name. Was quite an incident around that time.

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

I was primarily talking about the guys who joined up as subs for the ones who left. Since I'm rather certain most of them aren't newbies.

As for you, I suppose you should be congratulated for doing so well in your first game (I suppose I should be congratulated too :)). Did you do a lot of reading on the forums beforehand?

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

Congratulations for you too! And yes, I did do lots of reading. That's what I always do. When I get excited about something - usually some game or another - I spend my all spare moments at home (and at work...) thinking and reading about the subject. If I ever would have get so excited about my studies. sigh..

I suppose this is how most strategy game players operate. My main hobby btw is the game of go, any other go-players in the game?

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

Oceania's intentions are still murky. We have played a number of mp games but have not been close to winning any yet.

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

Some people seem to have to trouble remembering who is who playing, so just as reminder here is the current cast:

TimeLegend Tir Na n'Og
Brain_Caster Ermor
Happyfungi Arcoscephale
revenant2 Tien Chi
Trumelunki Kailasa
GoodKnight Abysia
mattyburn7 Oceania

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

The dispel failed.

We used 482 astral gems (see below). After the game is over, I'd be curious to know how many gems BC used to power AN.

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Ht7yZ6S.jpg[/IMG]

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

I would like to say this to Brain_Caster, that I would indeed take him on that offer if for no other reason then Kailasa is already quite well going for my throat as it is.

As for you Kailasa *Does a graceful bow* I shall personal welcome the visiting god to my humble home.

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

I've only completed four MP games, so I still consider myself fairly inexperienced. However, I won three out of those four, so I don't really consider a newbie either :)

I didn't realize this was a newbie game until after I subbed or I probably would have stayed away. Honestly, I was expecting to be absolutely crushed when I joined (that's one of the reasons I subbed actually), but I ended up surviving somehow. I still have no hope of winning, but I figure I'll learn a few things in the process.

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

Hah, well played Brain_Caster! You did not take chances with Arcane Nexus. It really was a declaration of victory.

There is not much to say. Kailasa declares war on Ermor. Tir has already declared for Ermor. Anyone who is not against Ermor and Tir will be considered an enemy.

Good luck to all!

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

Is it considered " gamely" to attack an allies pd with " sickle whose crop is pain" and then retreat to get death gems and do it over and over?

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

Naah - maybe more like smart play? Just proves my hunch. Tir and Ermor had an alliance from long time back.

The game looks difficult for sure. I think removing Tir na n'Og as fast as possible would not be a bad move. Maybe Abysia might help there?

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

Well that depends.. Tir do we have an NAP?
I'm not in the habit of breaking thous..
If we do ummm.. Consider it null and void :D

I'll set myself on trying to figure out if we do have one in place.
If you happen to know please PM me or something :D

GL!

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

O and Ermor! I want my gems back!
lol you never responded to my PM on Desura..

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

I know some folks do, although it's subjective.

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

We do it was a NAP-3...

But why I thought we were friends? :'(

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

Well we are a fire nation.. And as such we must consume fuel..

So you have now been relabeled to fuel :D
Also you didn't join the attack on Ermor? I think?

It's kind of hard to follow the deplo in this game because the PM system is really crap on shrapnel..
In Desura you can have group PMs.. here you can send 1 PM to a group of people but the response is to one person..

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

Nope. Tir na appears to be a vassal

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

Of course they are kicking my butt right now!!

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

Huh? Is Ermor fighting you now?

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

No. I meant you are kicking my butt..though it has been just a few skirmishes. That one guy of yours is tough!

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

Can you delay 24 hours please?

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

Done.

Re: Furious Noobs -EA- (Newbie Game, 10/10, Running)
 

GoodKnight, I just checked my account on desura, and you never wrote me anything... or at least whatever you wrote didn't arrive. :(

(For that matter, did you receive my message on desura? Specifically the one were I offered to bomb TC's capital for you before you declared war on me?)

As for the gems... hmm, you just gave those to me, without condition. Am I obligated by the rules of the game to pay them back? If I'm not, then obviously I'm not going to, since you already declared war on me.