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RetLT July 2nd, 2021 09:54 PM

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Scenario #129 Crushing the pocket

Same issue. SS units use German flags

DRG July 3rd, 2021 07:28 AM

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The SS units show German flags because that's the way it was built as there was no SS tag at the time the scenario was created.
When the SS tag was introduced, I changed a few scenarios to test it out but there was no plan or reason to change every one of them and there is no requirement to use them if someone built a new scenario using SS troops now. it's in the game as an option, but does not have to be used

RetLT July 3rd, 2021 05:32 PM

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Scenario #130 Cutting Hell's Highway

The stone bridge at 64,45 is shallow water

RetLT July 3rd, 2021 07:21 PM

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Scenario 131 Frundsberg defends Hill 112

Several of the British halftracks are labeled as Lloyd carriers

RetLT July 4th, 2021 04:41 PM

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Scenario #132 Frundsberg at Malot

British Lloyd carriers Q4 and Q4 are really halftracks.

RetLT July 7th, 2021 03:59 PM

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Scenario #133 Hohenstaufen at Hill 113

German infantry unit N0 starts on the map but is listed as loaded on on N4

DRG July 7th, 2021 04:21 PM

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And that's exactly why that feature was added to the game. It's an easy fix once the carrier vehicles is identified......unload it and the doppleganger goes away.... then reload the carrier:up:

RetLT July 9th, 2021 08:03 PM

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Scenario #134 Frundsberg at Hill 188

Hedgerow at 70,22 is clear hex

British halftracks AD4-7 are listed as Lloyd carriers

RetLT July 15th, 2021 09:54 PM

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Scenario #138 9SS PZ in the Ardennes

The building at 7,71 is really a rough hex.

DRG July 16th, 2021 08:11 AM

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That one was an easy fix. I clicked on that hex with clear terrain and it now reports the building.

RetLT August 10th, 2021 02:40 AM

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Scenario #158 The road to Kozani pass

1. The German Fahrrad units play motorized sounds instead of bicycle sounds

2. British patrol Co is set to a speed of zero.

DRG August 10th, 2021 03:55 AM

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Now corrected

Imp August 12th, 2021 09:07 AM

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Did not want to post in the other thread but man you are flying through these. Thanks for those with less time makes selecting what to play easier.

DRG August 12th, 2021 03:05 PM

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Agreed. This has got to be a big help to new ( or old ) players looking for a scenario to try.

Most of the early ones were made by CB Blackard and I might be wrong but his scenarios stopped coming around this date....

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/...ruton-blackard

I didn't know a lot about him but a couple of details fit but not all. The last scenario I have from him is timestamped June 29/ 2006 so it's still a mystery

RetLT August 12th, 2021 08:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Imp (Post 850777)
Did not want to post in the other thread but man you are flying through these. Thanks for those with less time makes selecting what to play easier.

I am retired and don't fish or golf so I have a lot of hours to fill. :D

RetLT August 12th, 2021 09:33 PM

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Scenario #162 Gliders at Crete

I landed all of my gliders together but they seemed to be demoralized by all the abandoned gliders lying around and stayed pinned or worse for the rest of the scenario.

Is there a way to stop them from getting suppression points from the gliders?

DRG August 13th, 2021 04:07 AM

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I will put it on the list to investigate. When you say you landed them all together do you mean the same LZ ?

EDIT: The first turn on landing in my test they were pinned but after that as the AA positions were neutralized I was able to rally enough of them to start taking objectives. In the end I squeaked out a draw. I don't think it's the gliders so much as it is the pounding they take from the AA positions

zovs66 August 13th, 2021 05:15 AM

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Sad news about CB, may he RIP. I think quite a few have passed on.

RetLT August 13th, 2021 10:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DRG (Post 850783)
I will put it on the list to investigate. When you say you landed them all together do you mean the same LZ ?

Yes, I landed them all at the same DZ (Far right). The only good thing was that they retreated towards the other objectives.

I barely managed a draw too.

DRG August 13th, 2021 11:18 AM

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I landed 3-4 gliders on each LZ. He may have designed it to draw for historical reasons.. IDK

DRG August 13th, 2021 11:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zovs66 (Post 850784)
Sad news about CB, may he RIP. I think quite a few have passed on.

It may have been him or not. The last timestamp on a scenario of his was 6 months after death but there are a number of reasons it might have happened that way. I did discover there is a CB Blackard III so there does seem to be 3 generations with that name and the CB who produced these scenarios may be III.... IDK it's just that the scenarios stopped coming around the same time we were deep into converting to windows and a lot of the old crew left.

We are pushing close to a quarter-century of development so yes, some of the early contributors could have passed away

Ts4EVER August 13th, 2021 12:35 PM

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I seem to remember that wreck bug also happened on one of my scenarios (with the gliders). They certainly seem to suppress infantry.

DRG August 13th, 2021 06:45 PM

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It *may* be that glider inf are picking up suppression like the crew of a destroyed tank....... BUT, landing in a glider under fire from 40mm AA is no cakewalk so added suppression from a hot LZ is not out of line and has nothing to do with the glider "wreaks"

RetLT August 13th, 2021 11:40 PM

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Glider wrecks are definitely the main cause of the suppression.

I tried and experiment where I landed all the gliders together near the top of the map and out of range of the AA guns. This took 9 turns.

On the turn after they landed the squads were all ready. The next turn they were all suppressed without being fired on or seeing an enemy unit.

DRG August 14th, 2021 09:38 AM

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I ran some tests on a newly built scenario to eliminate any chance this was something baked into a 20-year-old scenario but it's not and it's something both Andy and I thought had been sorted out ages ago

On the list to investigate and correct.

There should be some suppression from the landing but it shouldn't linger or increase when nothing is happening to cause it to go up

DRG August 14th, 2021 09:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RetLT (Post 850785)
Quote:

Originally Posted by DRG (Post 850783)
I will put it on the list to investigate. When you say you landed them all together do you mean the same LZ ?

Yes, I landed them all at the same DZ (Far right). The only good thing was that they retreated towards the other objectives.

I barely managed a draw too.

Just FYI..... this is ( I suspect.... ) why it was designed the way it was

https://nzhistory.govt.nz/war/the-ba...battle-day-1-3

Quote:

In the Galatas–Canea area, the German attack began with a glider assault. Glider-borne troops landed near Canea but were unable to achieve their main objectives – the capture of Canea and Suda – and were forced to surrender a few days later. German casualties during this operation were appalling as many of the gliders were shot down or wrecked on landing.

Mobhack August 14th, 2021 03:47 PM

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I havent looked at the scenario, but landing gliders on adverse terrain (including rough) is a recepie for hard landings (causes casualties to passengers) or outright destruction - very bad for passengers!

Invesigating the suppression issues and one factor is that the game code rates an abandoned vehicle in there with destroyed ones so may have to filter out STATUS_ABANDONED from the check for any nearby wrecks and routers. Testing continues.

DRG August 14th, 2021 07:41 PM

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FYI, I have tested the fix and it does seem to solve the problem but testing will continue

RetLT August 15th, 2021 04:28 AM

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Scenario #165 The Axis breaks

The German trucks E3-E5 use the Italian flag. They should be set as captured.

RetLT August 26th, 2021 04:59 PM

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Scenario #173 Crossing the Meuse

1.French bunkers AD1 and B1 are at the top of the map well away from the rest of their companies. B1 has no firing arc on map.

2. German PZ2 L5 uses an armed truck icon

DRG August 27th, 2021 02:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RetLT (Post 850800)
Scenario #165 The Axis breaks

The German trucks E3-E5 use the Italian flag. They should be set as captured.

I *assume* you mean I3-I5.

E3-E5 are FJg LMG

RetLT August 27th, 2021 11:23 AM

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Yes. I knew it was a vowel formation.

RetLT August 27th, 2021 11:26 AM

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Scn 174 Counter attack at Sedan

1. German PZ2s F0 and R0 use an armed truck icon. Oddly the other PZ2s use the correct one.

2. Wooden bridge hexes 95,84 and 79,44 are shallow water.

3. There is a building on the road at 94,156

RetLT August 28th, 2021 03:24 PM

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Scenario #176 DAK: KG Ponath

The British halftracks in formations G and I are labeled as Lloyd carriers

RetLT August 28th, 2021 04:56 PM

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Scenario #177 DAK: 5PZ in action

1. German PZ2 B3 uses an armored car icon
2. British halftracks are labeled Lloyd carriers

RetLT August 30th, 2021 11:57 PM

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Scenario #181 RK for Kummel

British A0 Lloyd carrier is a halftrack

RetLT September 1st, 2021 02:45 AM

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Scenario #184 Servas's cross in gold

Lloyd carriers are halftracks. Oddly the picture on the unit info screen IS a Lloyd carrier.

DRG September 1st, 2021 07:27 AM

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You are going to find a lot of that. The carriers were given the capacity to carry a full section simply because in reality, two carriers could usually carry a full section but I try to avoid things like Carriers(2) that use one Icon. Everyone accepted that until a few years ago when it was repeatedly pointed out one carrier could not carry 12 men so the "simplest" solution was to change the carrier to a HT that could carry 12. The game picks up the HT photo but scenarios allow custom photos AND NAMES to be added so the old scenarios happily show the "new" HT Icon but use the original name and in many cases, photo

Hindsight suggests perhaps simply renaming them carriers(2) would have, in the long run, saved a lot of aggravation if for no other reason than in scenarios pre 1942 ( like 181 and this one), HT's should not even be available.

In cases like this I may simply change the Icon back to being a carrier and change the name to just "Carrier" and leave it at that. Chances are you may see a lot of that in this scenario series

RetLT September 1st, 2021 03:46 PM

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All the DAK scenarios seem to have this.

DRG September 1st, 2021 11:13 PM

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It does not affect their playability so just ignore it for now and it does not affect them all

RetLT September 2nd, 2021 03:47 PM

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I will increase the dosage of my OCD meds and move on. :)

DRG September 2nd, 2021 05:10 PM

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:up::up:

You won't find it again until 191 then 198 and then not until 332

I've written an SQL to find them

RetLT September 6th, 2021 01:39 AM

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Scenario #193 Carretera de la Coruna

Player 2 can not be set to human. I have never encountered this before.

DRG September 6th, 2021 03:19 AM

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If you go to the scenario start screen and place the cursor over the Republican Player 2 button and look at the message bar you will get your answer..... It's set up as a Campaign game and in a Campaign game you cannot switch sides

Apparently, the designer really only wanted this played from the Nationalist side

RetLT September 6th, 2021 03:59 PM

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Thanks. I didn't notice that.

DRG September 6th, 2021 04:26 PM

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It is very rarely used but it is a way to ensure players only play the side it was designed for.

RetLT September 8th, 2021 10:56 PM

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Scenario #200 Operation Rosselsprung

JU-52s play jet sounds

RetLT September 18th, 2021 04:10 PM

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Scenario #222 Under the Noel trees

V hex 2,26 can not be captured by the US player. It will turn to German flag from SS flag though.

DRG September 18th, 2021 07:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RetLT (Post 851000)
Scenario #222 Under the Noel trees

V hex 2,26 can not be captured by the US player. It will turn to German flag from SS flag though.


Hmmmm..... that's weird. Will look into it

RetLT September 21st, 2021 12:23 AM

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Scenario #224 NKVD HQ Rostov

Russian units F0 and F1 are both 76.2 IGs but F0 uses an long barreled ATG icon


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