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capnq March 18th, 2003 10:19 PM

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breaking treaty causes your ship to attack if it was in the same sector as his planet
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">This reminds me, am I correct that you cannot propose a "lower" treaty than you currently have, without breaking the original treaty first?

I know you can "upgrade" treaties, but I don't think you can "downgrade" them.

geoschmo March 18th, 2003 10:22 PM

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Originally posted by capnq:
This reminds me, am I correct that you cannot propose a "lower" treaty than you currently have, without breaking the original treaty first?

I know you can "upgrade" treaties, but I don't think you can "downgrade" them.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No, that is not correct. You can downgrade treaties without cancelling them. Although I never saw it happen till recently in a game. It may be something relativly new cause before that game I thought as you did.

Geoschmo
Geoschmo

Fyron March 18th, 2003 10:24 PM

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I think that you have always been able to downgrade treaties just like upgrading them. It rarely happens though, which is why you probably haven't seen it in a long time. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

sachmo March 19th, 2003 04:52 AM

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So enemy_unknown, how do you think the war should go? From your initial attack, it is obvious your game skills are going to carry the day in this war! However, it won't make a very good story if I give in to your demands. I just think if we leave it to skill on skill, it's almost a forgone conclusion! Let me know what you think!

Fyron March 19th, 2003 06:39 AM

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So do the Heru not get a response Sachmo? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Unknown_Enemy March 19th, 2003 11:48 AM

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So enemy_unknown, how do you think the war should go?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Indeed you have no hope to win. By making public my peace conditions, I gave you a way to escape annihilation. What are you waiting for to start negociations ? Christmas http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ?

Then, about the financial compensations. You had a TR treaty with me not so long ago. You know what are my resources productions. You know I do not need at all these 20k mineral..Etc.. per turn. But think about WW1. The peace treaty of WW1 seed the roots of WW2. So is the peace treaty I made for you. The peace that will come will only seed the roots of future wars. You'd better start creating alliances, especially when it is becoming obvious that the Tyreans are close allied of the Katana Imperium. These resources are just an humiliation launched at the face of your corporation.

Last : your chairman. If you really need to save him, try to create a plot, and send it to me, we could work it out if it is convincing enough.

sachmo March 19th, 2003 05:11 PM

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Well, enemy_unknown, I don't see how that would really be much fun for me to roleplay, so I guess I'll just have to play the battle out. I doubt my mega-conglomerate would surrender so easily, but it sounds like you have your storyline already.

Fyron: I read the Messages, and I wasn't clear if you were saying we are at war or not. If we are, I have no idea why, but I guess I can take your empire on too. After the war ends I can figure out why, I suppose.

Unknown_Enemy March 19th, 2003 05:47 PM

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You are wrong, I have no storyline on this part yet. These were mere suggestions. We can indeed fight it out, but it seems a bit...pointless. As you did not develop Intel, I am probably able to tople out your empire just with intel projects without sending any warship to you.

What I proposed seemed to me an interesting proposal (story wise), but...You're the one to decide, not me.

sachmo March 19th, 2003 06:29 PM

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I have some intel, but I spent most of my research on the financial aspects of the game...because I'm a megacompany! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif The unfortunate side effect of this choice is that I will indeed be crushed by someone who geared up for war.

Sorry if I misread you, but it looked like you were saying either accept these peace demands or be destroyed. Not much option for a story there, as I see things. Alas, that is the way with history sometimes!

So, do your worst, and I will survive as long as I can!

Unknown_Enemy March 19th, 2003 06:45 PM

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I did went for military research very recently, but when I did my research output was around 10 times yours. But let's put the problem differently.

The Tyrean made public their peace conditions, and are moving to a war time economy. You seem to doubt your capacity to survive. What do you do now to survive ? Find something. surprise us !

And most important, put it in the story.....

Fyron March 19th, 2003 10:36 PM

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Fyron: I read the Messages, and I wasn't clear if you were saying we are at war or not. If we are, I have no idea why, but I guess I can take your empire on too. After the war ends I can figure out why, I suppose.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Then you did not read all of them. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif I quite clearly stated that neither you nor the Tyreans would be allowed to send military vessels into or through Heru space. You have sent a large force of warships into Niobe. I warned you to turn them around immediately. We are not at war, unless you continue to abuse our neutrality in this issue.

sachmo March 20th, 2003 02:28 AM

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Wow...that intelligence stuff is rough. I have no idea how to fight back. I hope my limited PBW skills aren't ruining the game for anyone, but it looks like the Tyreans are going to be the power to beat once they are finished with me! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Unknown_Enemy March 20th, 2003 10:43 AM

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No, my intel attack are not so rough. I only steal your maps. I don't steal your ships anymore, I dont kill your pop or decrease your planet's values.

Then, be advised there are 4 superpowers in this quadrant. You know what ? The Tyreans are very far from number one.

Also, who said that the Tyreans intended to wipe out your specie ?????

We are not Invexus Corp. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

[ March 20, 2003, 09:43: Message edited by: Unknown_Enemy ]

Unknown_Enemy March 20th, 2003 01:48 PM

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Hey Sachmo, did you forget that ?

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The History of the Galaxy, Part II

You will not even be required to do a lot of intense in game role play. All we ask is that you play your empire in an intersting manner, and as consistantly as is possible for you to do. This will give those that are planning on writing story Posts monre interesting events and characters to write about. We also ask that you stick with the game as long as you can, it may be months. And that you be aware the purpose fo this game is not nessecarily to win , but to generate some interesting events for others in the game to write about.
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Fyron March 20th, 2003 08:38 PM

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Originally posted by Captain Kwok:
Yeah, I just realized intel was on...I friggin' hate intel...ugh...oh well, time to get some intel facilities.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I second that motion of the despising of the SE4 intel system. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Dead Meat March 20th, 2003 10:01 PM

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I third the "motion of the despising of the SE4 intel system".

Unknown_Enemy March 20th, 2003 10:48 PM

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I veto your motion.

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Fyron March 20th, 2003 11:16 PM

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You don't have veto powers Unknown_Enemy! In fact, no one does. And, there is no possible result of a motion of "intel sucks" being passed. So, a veto wouldn't do anything even if someone had veto power. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Krsqk March 21st, 2003 01:17 AM

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be aware the purpose fo this game is not nessecarily to win
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ugh. Are we promoting Ebonics now? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

sachmo March 21st, 2003 01:21 AM

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Originally posted by Unknown_Enemy:
Hey Sachmo, did you forget that ?

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Nope! But I was hoping that you hadn't, either. After all, you are the one who "wouldn't even have to try" to destroy my empire! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Captain Kwok March 21st, 2003 02:34 AM

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Yeah, I just realized intel was on...I friggin' hate intel...ugh...oh well, time to get some intel facilities.

[ March 20, 2003, 12:35: Message edited by: Captain Kwok ]

Unknown_Enemy March 21st, 2003 02:44 AM

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I repeat it :
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Also, who said that the Tyreans intended to wipe out your specie ?????

We are not Invexus Corp
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Then, Fyron :

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You don't have veto powers Unknown_Enemy!
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Of course, so intel must be off now. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
Trust me on that one !! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ March 21, 2003, 00:48: Message edited by: Unknown_Enemy ]

sachmo March 21st, 2003 05:32 AM

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Ok, if you must know what led me to believe that you intended to wipe out my race and take over my planets, I present to you the following quote:

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Indeed you have no hope to win. By making public my peace conditions, I gave you a way to escape annihilation. What are you waiting for to start negociations ? Christmas ?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">So, if I was reading you right, you were telling me to accept the peace offer you extended, or be destroyed by intel and my own ships. I was merely stating that if this were the case, I could not fight back, and my race would be destroyed. I guess that's where I was confused. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Unknown_Enemy March 21st, 2003 10:54 AM

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Good point.
The annihilation word was stupid. But indeed if we have to fight it out , you will not get such generous conditions.

BTW I stopped to take control of your ships because I dont want one of your former captain glassing a world just for the fun of it.

sachmo March 21st, 2003 05:38 PM

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Originally posted by Unknown_Enemy:
Good point.
The annihilation word was stupid. But indeed if we have to fight it out , you will not get such generous conditions.

BTW I stopped to take control of your ships because I dont want one of your former captain glassing a world just for the fun of it.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, I'm formulating my plotline now. I'm thinking you will get your criminals heads after all! As to the second point...you won't hear any complaints from me on that front!!!!

And the funniest thing of all is that the whole thing started with my game playing mistake! Games really can imitate life! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

sachmo March 22nd, 2003 05:51 AM

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Ok, enemy_unknown, I got the ball rolling. I think this story is going to be fun, but of course you can take it whichever direction you wish! Hooray for intrigue!!

Unknown_Enemy March 24th, 2003 04:29 PM

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Just found a computer with which I can post, I will not be able to post/play/RP until wednesday evening, I got my turns played by a friend who has strict instructions to hit "next turn" and nothing else when he has one to play.

So if you send a message, do not expect any answers fron that or these turns.

dumbluck March 25th, 2003 09:04 PM

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Great. See what happens when you go on vacation? Something actually HAPPENS! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Captain Kwok March 26th, 2003 07:36 AM

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Yeah, who's the punk *** intel-ing my ships with new orders trapped in that damn spacial anomaly?

Unknown_Enemy March 26th, 2003 06:45 PM

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Back in business.

Evil Beware !

Fyron March 26th, 2003 08:50 PM

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Originally posted by Captain Kwok:
Yeah, who's the punk *** intel-ing my ships with new orders trapped in that damn spacial anomaly?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Probably those evil Tyreans.

Unknown_Enemy March 26th, 2003 08:59 PM

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Probably those evil Tyreans.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">We will pray for you Fyron.
We will pray for you to freeze in Hell.

Captain Kwok March 26th, 2003 11:24 PM

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Captain Kwok:
Yeah, who's the punk *** intel-ing my ships with new orders trapped in that damn spacial anomaly?

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Probably those evil Tyreans.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think not, I have yet to meet them.

Fyron March 27th, 2003 12:51 AM

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Originally posted by Unknown_Enemy:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Probably those evil Tyreans.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">We will pray for you Fyron.
We will pray for you to freeze in Hell.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That's perfectly fine. Just don't take your frustrations against Fyron out on the Heru. He has nothing to do with them.

Unknown_Enemy March 27th, 2003 02:19 AM

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Anyway I acknowledge what's left of the Tyrean pop is not as nice as it used to be. So they'll pray for the soul of Fyron, then they'll come asking to the Heru tribes where is their damn explorer.

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Fyron March 27th, 2003 02:56 AM

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The explorer was unservicable. You asked the Heru to scrap it.

Unknown_Enemy March 28th, 2003 12:49 PM

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The explorer was unservicable. You asked the Heru to scrap it.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Seems we have not been able to catch the story.
Never mind.
Forget it.

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I got the ball rolling
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">So do I...

[ March 28, 2003, 10:51: Message edited by: Unknown_Enemy ]

Fyron April 14th, 2003 08:51 PM

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Well that's great. Making up excuses to be able to pick on the little guy. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

Unknown_Enemy April 15th, 2003 01:15 AM

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Who can guess what is going to happen ?

Not you.

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Fyron April 15th, 2003 02:22 AM

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I can guess that this poorly started empire is gonna get thrashed pretty soon. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Unknown_Enemy April 15th, 2003 10:12 AM

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Naaa.

Ask yourself that question : Would the Tyrean wipe out the Tribes because some hot shot blow up a famous explorer ?

Especially when you know you were not involved in it. Could it be you have been framed ?

Think.

Fyron April 18th, 2003 07:55 PM

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Originally posted by Unknown_Enemy:
Naaa.

Ask yourself that question : Would the Tyrean wipe out the Tribes because some hot shot blow up a famous explorer ?

Especially when you know you were not involved in it. Could it be you have been framed ?

Think.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, framed by you. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Unknown_Enemy April 18th, 2003 09:13 PM

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I really don't know what to do with you Fyron. I tried to create a branch of a particular story with you, but it seems we were never able to catch up. Indeed I find it difficult to RP with you.

Fyron April 19th, 2003 12:23 AM

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Well there wasn't much inspiration to start writing up an RP for me in it...

Unknown_Enemy April 19th, 2003 01:15 AM

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Storytellers, where have you gone ?
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sachmo May 28th, 2003 11:09 PM

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UK, it's about time to finish off the Board Chairman. I would like to transfer the fleet to you before the next turn, if that's possible. That is, if you recall us talking about it. It's been a while. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ May 28, 2003, 22:10: Message edited by: sachmo ]

Unknown_Enemy May 30th, 2003 02:20 AM

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Yop.
Got a special treatment for that one.

sachmo May 30th, 2003 04:17 AM

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You should be getting him this turn. Langley is a much more level headed ruler. Let's see how good he is at politics! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif


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