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Matrix Revolutions

Last night was opening night for this movie. The theater was totally packed and there was a long long lineup. I could only make it in to the very late show, so by the time I got home it was almost 2 am. Didn't get much sleep. Anyway...

**** WARNING: SPOILERS ****
If anyone figures out what is going on in this movie, and what really went on in the previous movie, please explain! I was hoping that the mysterious stuff from Reloaded would be all cleared up in the third movie, but no, the questions are not answered. I still have no clue what is happening. I must say, the first Matrix movie was better than either of the two sequels.

OK, so the machines drill through the ground and finally make it to the Last human city of Zion deep in the earth. There's a big battle where the humans try to defend the city, but they're losing. In the matrix, Agent Smith has zillions of duplicates and is becoming really powerful. They don't really explain why Smith has this ability or why he's so special. Neo is in a sort of coma but his mind is in a strange reality which is not the matrix but not the real world either, and he's trapped there. The place looks like a train station and he can't leave without the cooperation of a A.I. guy named the Train Man or something like that, who is one of the bad guys, and Neo gets beaten up by him. Morpheous and Trinity visit the Oracle, who looks like a different person now, and she tells them to make a deal with the powerful French A.I. guy from the Last movie, to free Neo. So Morpheous and Trinity go and fight their way into the French guy's hideout and after a lot of making threats and pointing guns at each other, he agrees to free Neo. So Neo is able to get back into the real world. Then he decides to fly one of the ships to the Machine City to try to stop the war. The guy on the ship who was taken over by Agent Smith's mind gets up and kills one of the crew. So Neo and Trinity go on Niobe's ship, while everybody else (Morpheous, the captain and crew of the other ship, Niobe, Linx, and so on) are on the other ship, and they try to get back into Zion by flying through a narrow shaft that is very difficult to pilot through. So Niobe's flying the ship, and sentinels attack them, and to make a long story short, they get back to Zion and use the EMP pulse to kill a bunch of the machines that were attacking the city. But more machines attack and it is obvious that the humans are doomed. On Neo's ship, the guy who is possessed by Agent Smith attacks Trinity and Neo, and Neo manages to kill him but Neo's eyes are burned and he's blinded. However, for some reason he has developed a new power and he can see. On the way to the Machine City, the ship is attacked but Neo can blow up the sentinels with his mind, and they manage to get there, but Trinity is killed. They don't explain why Neo has all these new powers in the real world. In the Matrix, Agent Smith has absorbed the Oracle and he's now able to fly, just like Neo. In the Machine City, Neo makes a deal with the machines, saying that he will stop Agent Smith if the machines agree to stop the war with Zion. So Neo goes into the Matrix and there's a big battle between Smith and Neo. In the end, Neo seems to lose, and Smith absorbs Neo, but then all the Smiths explode. The machines stop attacking Zion and they leave. Neo is lying on the platform in the machine city, but it's not clear whether he's alive or dead. The people in Zion are all cheering and happy that they made it. Then in the Matrix, there's a brief conversation betwen the Architect and the Oracle. The End.

What???? There are so many unanswered questions.
Why is Neo able to destroy machines in the real world?
Why is Neo able to see when he's blind?
Was Zion really destroyed and rebuilt many times?
What's all this cryptic stuff about balancing the equation and unbalancing it, and the One being a manifestation of the imbalance or something like that?
Why is Agent Smith able to duplicate himself? What's so special about him?
Where there really many 'Ones' before Neo, and what happened to the previous Ones?
Why did Neo come back to life near the end of the first movie?
etc.

They said that the story of the Matrix is over and there will be no more sequels. The first movie was very good, but in the sequels they introduced way too much weird stuff...

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You got home at 2am?
I hope you thought of all us Ozzies who watched the premier at 1am.
And when I say "us Ozzies" I mean that people who went to it, which I might have before my 'fatherhood' days.
I'll see it in about 2 weeks time and watch the conclusion of the triology, mind you, I already suppect where it is heading.

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Matrix 3

SPOILER

WTF happend here? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif I actually like the movie despite its lame *** ...... You have to see it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

DO NOT READ PAST THIS POINT IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THE MOVIE, IT WILL RUIN IT FOR YOU.


This movie made a lot of sense even though I missed the first 15 minutes of it because of traffic. (oh well, thats what I get for buying my tick on Fandango.) All most all of the questions from the first two movies were answered. You just have to listen for them. Basically put, Neo is able to exsist in both the machine world (Matix) and the real world. He is a product of both and therefore can manipulate both. In the Matrix he can manipulate physics, in the real world he can control the machines, partly. Zion had indeed been destroyed many times and rebuilt, kinda like Vade is Lukes father. You just have to wait for it to be explained better in the next triliogy. Oh ya, there will be a sequal, that you can count on.

Well lets talk about the movie now. The movie explains that Neo has gained the ability to control the machines much like the programs in the matrix have gained the ability to reproduce. Neo begins to understand that the Matrix is as much a living breathing things now as any human. He is advised by the new Oricle to follow his path and that he already knows his path and the answers to his questions. The answer is he is the balancer in the unstable equation that is Agent Smith.

The Machines do indeed breech into Zion, and this leads to one of the best battle scense I have seen since the Original Star Wars. Very impressive and I look forward to seeing it agian.

Trinity dies and Neo sacarfices his freedom, and possibly his life to bring the war between the humans and the Machines to an end. Neo travels to the Machine city and confronts the Machine lord who agrees to end the war if Neo can defeat the rogue virus program that calls itself Agent Smith. Agent smith has infected everything in the Matrix including the Oricle and when Neo arrives to fight him he beats him. Neo is defeated and allows Smith to convert him into a likeness of himself as he had done with all of the other programs in the Matrix. This proved to be Smiths undoing as it balanced the matrix and cancled him out. The movie ends with the Machines pulling away from Zion, Neo being hauled away by the Machines, and The matrix restored with the agreement that any human that wishes to leave may.

Lame ending to an otherwise ok movie. For the Zion battle scenes, I recommend this movie be seen at the theater. Best time Matenee, but worth the $10.00 prime time showing as well.

Remember I also thought Pearl Harbor was ok as well. So take my recommendations with a grain of salt.

[ November 07, 2003, 05:53: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

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MATRIX 3

SPOILER

DO NOT READ
5 minutes into the movie you make a decision. Do i try to figure it out or just watch the movie. I just watched the movie. What happened.
easy. the 7th reset happened.

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SPOILER

Well put, the seventh reset. That would have been the better name for the movie. The Matrix - The Seventh Reset.

I think that they had no idea how to direct this monster they have created and opted to go for the money. You know with an ending like that there is going to be a sequal or three.

Follow the money - forget the story line, just follow the money.

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MILD SPOILER

Whats Seventh Reset? Anyhow, i enjoyed the movie. One of the reasons was i had very low expectations of it, but it was okay. i didnt enjoy the cheesy cheesy dying scene (you know whats that), and the Last 20 minutes of the movie... the fighting was lame, and so was the end, but the movie was okay. A couple of cheap tricks and dead-end mysteries, but its okay. As i said, i liked the movie and i'd recommend it to everyone.

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The architecht guy in the 2nd movie belaboured that point.
There were 6 previous incarnations of The One, which would make Neo the 7th.
Mr Architect implied that all 6 went through with the reset (Zion gets wiped out, pick X-many people to repopulate and start from scratch)

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*Spoiler ahead*
My problem with the film is that it did not make me care about the characters in the movie. You know that the fight between Neo and Smith will decide the outcome so where is the point of the long battle in Zion? Nothing that happens in Zion makes a difference and we know this from the very beginning of the film. Did the love between Trinity and Neo make any difference? Was the destruction of Smith all there is to Neo? How sad. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

[ November 09, 2003, 21:38: Message edited by: Mephisto ]

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I agree mephisto, but put a SPOILER on your post. But still, I agree, this is what the movie was lacking - some identification with the characters, and feeling of importance of what is being done. Well said.

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A spoiler is kind of redundant... of course everything in here is a spoiler of some sort! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

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Overall I liked Matrix: Revolutions, but here's the ending I was hoping for:

PARTIAL OBLIGATORY SPOILER ALERT! WHOOP! WHOOP! WHOOP! AROOOOOOGA!

Agent Smith is defeated and the Machines in the Real World begin to leave Zion as per their agreement with Neo. As Morpheus looks upon the Machines leaving and realizes the War is over; and as that kid (can't remember his name, the one whom Neo freed from the Matrix in one of the Animatrix Shorts) runs into the Temple and announces to everyone in Zion that the War is over, one of the Sentiles leaving Zion stops in mid-air and flips open it's radio antennae/dish to recieve a message. Suddenly all the Sentiles turn around and in one tidal wave they rush into Zion and into the Temple, killing every man, woman, and child in Zion.

Back in the Matrix, the Matrix begins to repair itself. The Architect walks up to the Oracle, who is sitting on a bench and looking none-too pleased. Looking at the Oracle, the Architect states coldly "now we start over", and the movie ends.

Had they done an ending like this, it would have left things just as open as the real ending did, but without the sappy ridding-into-the-sunset ending we did get.

But I still like the movie overall.

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The bitter sad truth about this Matrix movie is that we all had high hope, low expectations. The frist Matrix movie was wonder to behold, the second a formula and the third the second part of the second.

We were given a glimps of something great, and like the matrix being changed, it was taken from us leaving only the sence of dajavo.

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This site sums it up quite nicely IMHO and it is a fan site. Beware, MAJOR spoilers ahead:

http://www.matrix-explained.com/

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Good link. This is almost exactly how I felt about the movie, or at least what prevented me from feeling satisfied about it.

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just saw t3. don't know what the complaints are about. sure, it was a gun-packed action-fest with a little philosophy on the side, but that's what 1 and 2 where. and the T-X might not have looked as dangerous as the T-101, but they don't have as much practice making women look dangerous. all in all, good action flick.

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I liked T3 mainly because T-X was really pretty. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Has anybody seen that Tom Cruise samurai movie, I forget the title. Is it any good?

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The problems I saw with T-3 where mainly detail issues regarding shot angles and such. The T101 runs the T X down with a pickup truck and crashes here through a wall at the vet office, the car explodes for no reason, and the building he crashed her into was in the wrong spot given the fact that the girl ran out and to the side of her truck, directly infront of the vet clinic, yet the boy was in a cage in the very room that the T X was buired in after being ran through the wall by the T101.

Then there was the crane issue. The TX ran the T101 through a building whick conviently had exploding colums. That was very hockie.

To top it off, the father tells them to go through the super conductor thingy and it takes them a while to get to the plane, even with the TX following the, yet the T101 just happens to show up in the hanger, via a differant route, at the exact time as the two humans. I don't know.......

Then again, look at Tomb Raider 2, and all the plot details lost in that movie. Like what happend to her jet ski after she met up with the guys on the boat, and how can someone hold their breath and decompress after a long dive like that all the time riding on the back of a shark?

These days movies are going more for effect, less on plot. T3 was ok, but not great. Tomb Raider was ok, but not at all good.

Now for a good movie, see Pirates of the Carrabian. Goooood Movie.

And ya, the Tx was one very attractive peace of hardware. But not a girl you would take home to meet momma. (She just might off terminate your momma.)

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ok, but don't most action movie's have problems? and, as i just thought, in T3 they remembered to run out of amunition and reload.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">*agrees*

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Ya, that is always a nice thing to see in a movie. Too bad they never show how a true gun on auto climbs. If you have ever shot one, and I have many, you would know that you don't shoot a gun and not get recoil, unless its a 22 or something. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Still, they did do a nice job on a lot of the movie, and I think it is worth a rental or dvd cost. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Has any one seen master and commander yet? Or how about Missing?

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The main problem as I see it is that T2 broke new ground. The T-1000 was cool, deadly and the effects looked really, really good and smooth (remember the T-1000 being crystallized and smashed only to reform? remember it melding with the chequered floor? remember the cool moves it made in combat by changing its shape?). T3 looks like a throwback by comparison, with bad acting, cheap-looking effects and the much-touted TX was simply unconvincing and weak-seeming.

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Yes, saw Master and Commander Last week. I really liked it but not sure it will appeal to everyone's tastes. It is a period that I am particularly interested and it was very well done IMO. The action scenes were excellent, but if you are expecting 24 hours of action you will be dissapointeed. Probably 2/3 of the movie is slower, though none the less enjoyable _if_ you are interested in that period of history. Crowe and the rest of the cast do a fine job.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The main problem as I see it is that T2 broke new ground. The T-1000 was cool, deadly and the effects looked really, really good and smooth (remember the T-1000 being crystallized and smashed only to reform? remember it melding with the chequered floor? remember the cool moves it made in combat by changing its shape?). T3 looks like a throwback by comparison, with bad acting, cheap-looking effects and the much-touted TX was simply unconvincing and weak-seeming. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The main problem with T3 is that James Cameron had nothing to do with the film. I think Gale Anne Hurd got the rights to the Terminator franchise after she divorced James Cameron. so therefore, the storyline was probably like nothing Cameron would have come up with. After T2, I would have like them to explore the future and see how John Conner became the legend that made Skynet want to kill him in the past. The movie itself was ok. I liked the Terminatrix, but if you read the T2 trilogy of books by S.M. Stirling, there was a much better villainess in those books (and a much better storyline, IMO). Hopefully, if another sequel is made, Cameron will have more of an influence in its production.

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Two more movies I saw lately were both child related. Saw Looney Tunes: Back in Action and Cat in the Hat. both were ok, and made me laugh, even as an adult. Of the two, though, Cat in the Hat was much better. To tell you the truth, I don't ever remember reading the book, so I don't know how faithful it was, but Mike Myers is still showing how versatile he is in his acting and the number of voices he can produce. Give it a try. It is pretty funny.

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I agree Master and Commander was a good movie.It had its holes in the story but a good one none the less.If you like to read I'm enjoying the novel and recommend it.I think I'll read the series.Its been a while since I seen a good movie in the theater.X-men 2 and Finding Nemo are the first ones I saw this year. The next one is Return of the King http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif SWEET!

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ROTK

*drools*

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Just wondering if anyone else saw Kill Bill. I thought it was pretty OK, some of the fight sequences were a little hard to believe (Uma out samauri-swords about 100 Japanese guys in a restaurant), but blood, gore, martial arts & hot women plus the standard Tarentino time-skip sequencing made it entertaining nonetheless.

[ December 03, 2003, 19:59: Message edited by: kalthalior ]

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Like most movies coming out this season, I'll probably only get to see them when they come out on DVD. The only movie I KNOW!!! I'm going to see when it comes out is Lord of teh Rings: The Return of the King. But I definitely will try to see Kill Bill. I've heard about the goree(?) sequences. It has made me curious, and I will try to go see it before it's too late.

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Cat In The Hat: very, very wacky movie. funny enough to sit through with your kids. they'll find it side-splittingly hilarious, no doubt. you'll love the delicious little tidbits of "grown-up stuff" that mr. myers throws your way. this one gets http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

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Dec 17 - today is the day ROTK goes into wide release.

Dec 3 - the Last time anyone posted on this thread...

{winds up foot, aims...)

KER-BUMP!!!

That's better. Let the reviews begin!

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whoever made this thread, mark it spoily, for those of us who won't see it right away. it's going to be.

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this thread

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Saw LOTR:ROTK yesterday, and it's a great movie. Go see it if you can. Don't know if I'll be able to see any more films this year, unless we get a babysitter (aka grandma or my sister-in-law).

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I saw Return of the King Last night. I agree that it is a great movie. I am still awestruck and have to watch it at least a second time to fully appreciate it and voice any strong opinions about it.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I agree. It's worth a second or third viewing. Unfortunately, my wife doesn't agree with that opinion. She doesn't comprehend why someone would pay to go see a movie more than once. Heck, I saw Empire Strikes Back 8 times during the summer of 1980, when I was 17 and had nothing else to do. I even saw Star Trek: The Motion Picture 5 times when it came out (not because it was a great movie, but it was STAR TREK!!! and I had been watching the reruns for years before that).

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Kill Bill (part one) is a very well done intentionally-campy/darkly-humorous action flick, for those who like that sort of thing, and I do.

I liked Master & Commander too. I feel sorry for people who say it was slow, but perhaps they mean that it's not a constant action fest, which is true. I could quibble about some things, but I won't - I didn't think it was brilliant, but I thought it was well done and enjoyable. It had some very good ship battle scenes.

PvK

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I'll probably see Return of the King sometime by the end of the year. I'll have some days off after Christmas, so I'm thinking of going then. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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ROTK was an excellent movie. In fact the entire trilogy was, correction, is why we have movies. Together they are epic.

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just saw lord of the rings. it was great.

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Every once in a while you come acrossed a movie that you know is just going to be a good movie from the first frame. Movies like the Lord of The Rings, The fellowship of the Ring, Shawshank Redemptions, Silence of the Lambs, The Lion King, Star Wars, and so on.

If you have not seen Seabiscuit yet, I recommend it. Now its not the greatest movie ever, nor is it the best I have seen, but it is by far on of the most heart inspiring movies that I have seen. I wish my sister were alive to have seen this movie. A well done movie that is both enjoyable to watch as any I have seen in many years.

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seabiscut was nowhere near as depressing as the true story was. the jockey ended up as a shoe shining drunk, and i think the horse went to the glue factory. the real tale was a true tear jerker.

I liked the LotR movies alot, but the book was alot better. they most people will complain about things they left out, which is not so bad for me. things are bound to be missing, and the extended edditions fixed alot of the problems i had with them. what i dont like, are the parts they hammed up and spend to long playing out. too many long homoerotic scenes, too many long slow-motion scenes of frodo being injured (in every movie - which was okay, because he was sort of a ***** in the books too).

ah well.. it would be boring if it was a perfect world. the previews for that wierd rocket-man style 1930s sci-fi movie look REALLY COOL, and the trailers for hellboy and the sequel to pitch black (the original was poop) look entertaining, too.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Unfortunately, Atrocities, I read the book after I watched the movie, and I became very, very disappointed in the movie. I know there's some give and take in "historical" movies when it comes to the truth, but they really butchered all of the facts when they made this movie. And I can't believe the author had anything to do with the movie, but her name was in the credits. I know the movie was inspirational, and I felt good about it up to the point when I picked up the book. I'm just so bummed about it I'm not even thinking about buying the dvd.

And Puke, according to the book, Seabiscuit had a heart attack when he was about 14, which is about half the lifespan of a horse according to the book. Also, what rocketman type trailer have you seen? Sounds interesting, but I haven't seen anything like that. The only trailer I've seen that's got me stroked is the one for Troy. Can't wait to see that movie.

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The horse died in 1947 and was buried on the Howard ranch in an undisclosed location. I don't know about the rider Red, but the story was more about the horse in my opinion than anything else. In his career Seabiscuit won over $400k in prize money and was ranked 25th for the century. That is not a bad accomplishment for the way the horse was raised. Our of 83 starts he wond 33 of them and just as many seconds.

I guess you have to be a horse lover to appreciate the animal and the spirit thay posess. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I don't know about that Puke, everyone I know who saw the movie thought it was a great movie. In fact you are the first person in over two years to say its poop. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif But hey, everyone has their tastes. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I did not know that they were making a sequal. I don't know about sequals as they usually really muck up the pooch.

EDIT: Sorry Guys, wrong name.

[ December 31, 2003, 00:42: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">wasn't me. *points Atrocities head at Puke* you want to talk to him.

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Sorry guys. Fixed

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I don't know about that Puke, everyone I know who saw the movie thought it was a great movie. In fact you are the first person in over two years to say its poop. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif But hey, everyone has their tastes. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I did not know that they were making a sequal. I don't know about sequals as they usually really muck up the pooch.

EDIT: Sorry Guys, wrong name. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">First of all, I'm probably the only one who still hasn't seen Pitch Black. I want to, especially now that Vin Diesel is such a big star, but just haven't gotten around to getting the dvd. I haven't heard anything about a sequel, and it probably wouldn't star Diesel, as he's probably making the sequel to XXX right now.

As far as sequels go, I'm with Atrocities. Most of them shouldn't have been made, or they should have gotten the original writer to do the script. I think the most disappointed sequel I've seen was Highlander 2. Talking about atrocities (sorry, Atrocities, but it's the only fitting word I can think of to describe that expreience). The only sequels I can think of that surpassed the original was Empire Strikes Back and Star Trek II.

[ December 31, 2003, 15:35: Message edited by: gregebowman ]

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no I think Vin is in it - I hear the reason they couldn't get him for 2fast2furious (god, that looked bad) was that he was making this. it wasnt called Pitch Black 2, but had a different name. Looked more action and less horror, like Aliens 2 to Alien. Looked really cool, and even some alien sculpture stuff that looked alot like Giger's work.

The rocketman sytle movie (filmed all graney and technocolor) was Sky Captain and the Armies of the Future, or something like that. This guy in a WWII era fighter plane fighting swarms of ornithopters and giant robots that are attacking a sprawling new-york / metropolis type city. Looked very cool.

and yes, Troy looks like it will be a bLast.

Anyone seen Master and Commander? Any opinions?

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yeah, Empire Strikes Back is my favorite out of the original 3 Star Wars movies.
And Wrath of Khan is definitely the best Star Trek movie.

I also like Terminator 2 better than the first movie.
Shanghai Knights was better than Shanghai Noon.