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Perhaps Fyron could mod this feature out and then we all could update to that Version? Seems like the most practical way to resolved the issue.

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I don't think that would work because the game wouldn't recognize the new files, we have to use the same mods or it won't run.

The leader of the ferengi has said he is trying to deal with the situation, I the leader of the breen sympathize with their plight, and vow not to attack them.(but you know the old saying, NEVER TURN YOUR BACK TO THE BREEN http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif )

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In FQM, Star Cluster systems (those with 5 stars and random movement) have this setting:

Empires Can Start In := FALSE

So, an empire can not start in one of them in a random map. You can place a starting location in them in the Map Editor though, which is what Atrocities must have done for AAST. When playing a game with a random map in FQM, you will never have a HW in one of these systems. There is no need to mod the ability out; you just have to be more careful when selecting HW locations.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes, you can change the mod the game is using. You just have to get the PBW admins to change what mod the game is set to be processed with on PBW, and it will all work fine.

[ March 18, 2003, 18:47: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

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Fyron, I am not blaming you. I simply did not know that this could occur. I am sorry if it seemed like I was blaming you. I hosted the game therefore the problem is my fault.

I simply did not know that if I had placed a player in a system that had this, that it would effect the player. To be honest, I never even considered it. I had no idea that this type of system would exsist with planets.

Had I know, or even suspected this, I would have made allowance for it.

Remember, I stated that I would edit the map so that everyone had an even starting point. That everyone would have breathing and growth room.

I had no idea that this could happen, and it simply is one of those things that you never expect to happen when it does.

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I would not be opposed to restarting with a different map, with noone in Star Cluster systems. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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[ March 18, 2003, 19:24: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

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I have no problem with deleting this cursed game and starting another one. But I would feel better if someone else hosted it.

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I will be deleting the game tonight. Thanks for playing guys.

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Hold the phone. I thought the guy decided to give it a go?

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Deleting it is rather drastic. Just restart with a better map.

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If it works, then we have hope. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Just look at the systems before you use them as a HW location. You know, edit the system to see what abilities it has. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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In retrospect; Duh.

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jep, next turn I will give a update if my colonization worked.
I have 4 colonization ships one grid from my homeworld, and two planets who are in range of my ships.
Hopes it works

sparhawk

Ferengi

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Thanks, and my offer is still good for the DOminion. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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So are we restarting or not? I think you need to make a statement by email one way or the other Atrocities. Otherwise a buynch of people may think we aren't and wont ever upload their turns.

Geoschmo

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Seriously, we need to restart. Go make a test game to see if you can get the colony ships to load population. Don't make us wait several days.

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I agree. Let's cut bait and just restart.

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I will be the third to vote on restart. The sooner the better.

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Good point Geo, A restart is fine with me as well. I think everyone can agree that being hosed at the beginning of a game ruins it for ya.

[ March 20, 2003, 01:25: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

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restart... same map... edit the home system at question

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yep, that works for me.

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Right now the concensus is that we should just go ahead and give the game
a restart. I agree with this, and would like to do it asap. I would also
like to know if you want to keep this map, ie fix the problem Sparhawk is
having, or go with a completely new map with random starting locations?

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I suggest a new map. Using the same map will give everyone extra knowledge of the map that they should not have (as I have to assume (hope?) that you used common starting points on the map, and not specific ones).

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May I make a small sugestion? If we restart, could we set the tech level for medium instead of low? It's not that much higher than low, I just don't like researching those big techs to get at armor. and the tech cost is high.

Also PBW seems to be down, it says this page can't be found when I try to go there.

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Ok, I have been trying to upload the restarted game file all night with no success. I keep getting an error that the file can not be renamed. I will try it one more time after rebooting and tweaking my dial up settings.

If that fails, I will send it to Geo and ask if he can upload it directly. Thanks again guys for being so willing to go through all of this.

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New game is uploaded. Have fun, and thank you Geo. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Lets try this from the top. I have deleted the game. I am sick and tired of restarting it. I have started an new game. If you wish to join, great, but I will not be restarting it once it is started.

The new game name is

Beyond The Frontier

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That was wholely unnecessary Atrocities.

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I was tired of dealing with that game. It was nessassary for me. That game became unenjoyable and after spending the Last half an hour trying to upload yet another restart, I got P/O'ed and desided to just can it in favor of a new game.

This way we will start on TURN 1 and not 6.

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Geo, Fryon, are you going to join ?

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I haven't decided yet.

Geoschmo

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It wouldnt be the same without the Borg.

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If Geoschmo should decide not to participate, I would like to offer to try my hand at the Borg. I like the no Intel or SM approach.

As CNCRaymond can attest to, I am new to PBW, but will endeavor to assimilate all I can. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Please....

Your a good RP'er ( Both of you )

I look forward to the interesting topics come July and August...

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You can always ask him if he is going to play or not, and if he is, you can always play another race. If not, then join up and play the Borg. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Thank you for the generous offer ... I'll e-mail him requesting to please let me know when he decides. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

(Was able to resurrect my old forum login and e-mail account, hence the split personality http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif )

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If you want to be the Borg be my guest.

Geoschmo

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Okay, thank you for your swift reply http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif , but sorry to hear you are going to sit this one out. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

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Did nobody else notice there are 2 Romulan Empires???

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sugar... i thought we were just moving our stuff over to this game......as i was playing the romulans in the other game.... sugar....

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sugar... i thought we were just moving our stuff over to this game......as i was playing the romulans in the other game.... sugar....

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why are the units set so low... I recommend you max out the units... 5000 can be filled quickly

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Hmmm, interesting ... it matters not, however, as we will add their biological and technological distinctiveness to our own, whether one empire or two.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I am hurt, but life goes on.

2 Romulans? Well, if no one else objects, why the hell not?

I can set the unit limit to `10k if that will work for everyone.

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hello all we need some players for pbw. trek vs. wars.... new dawn is the game

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Maud'dib, it might be better to create a new thread for that. I am sure there are people that have decided that reading this thread is not for them (no interest in this particular game), so they will never be able to see your post. If you make it in a new thread, more people are likely to see it.

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i will have the empire up this evening.. PBW is not working... good excuse to go to work

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AT I will play another race.... WHat is left out of the NASY ship sets...

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Nice gesture, tesco samoa ... Salute!

FWIW, looks like this game has picked up the Andorians, and does not have the Tholians or 8472 that you did in the other game. But still a few others from NASY also available.

http://galileo.spaceports.com/~william/downloads.htm

[ March 27, 2003, 02:59: Message edited by: alchemy ]

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You could be holians, or vulcans, vulcans might be good if there's romulans, make things interesting, I'm still Breen.