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Alneyan May 29th, 2004 09:59 AM

Re: Rated Challenges Thread
 
Same as Primitive here, I would merely like to know if the Talisman is welcomed here or not. I gather that if is it on, both teams will go for it, and as quickly as possible. (I haven't made any calculation about how many turns you need, but my wild guess would be somewhere between turn 30 and turn 40)

As for openers, I do believe you could have three such ships running as early as turn 30. (And possibly before) You merely need 350,000 research points to have SM II, and then you have about 10 turns to get SM III for 450,000 research points (not much with three homeworlds). The main problem will obviously be to get the resources needed for the retrofitting part, so you might need one or two more turns. If you are really doing well, it might even be possible to reach SM IV in time (for an additional 800,000 research points), but don't quote me on that.

So I would be strongly against Warp Openers (and Warp Closers, as closing all wormholes would be quite a problem), but I don't have a strong opinion on the Talisman as long as both teams agree either to take it or to forget it. It wouldn't do if only one team had this device for example, while the other decided to invest in Organics Extraction. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Why Slynky, I need to get even for this certain KOTH game, but in the light of our recent games, I will be benevolent towards your people. Well, I will not put them in the same kind of thrall as Parabolize's subjects, if you get my meaning. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif (Am I too confident? It could be the aforementioned propaganda that is showing up)

Mark the Merciful May 29th, 2004 10:53 AM

Re: Rated Challenges Thread
 
I obviously hadn't been clear enough in my earlier edit. I had actually accepted a veto of Opener tech several Posts ago http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

So here is my proposed game:

The Grudge-Match of Doom
Mark/Slynky vs Primitive/Alneyan

Medium spiral (with teams together on their own side of the map)
3 Good planets
100000 starting resources
Yes to Intel
No to Ancient Race
No to Warp openers (by agreement, leaving all other stellar manip tech available)
Max ships
Max units
All other settings as default (so Religious is available)

Are we sufficiently agreed? Who can set up the game for us?

Mark

[ May 29, 2004, 09:55: Message edited by: Mark the Merciful ]

Slynky May 29th, 2004 02:42 PM

Re: Rated Challenges Thread
 
The Grudge-Match of Doom
Mark/Slynky vs Primitive/Alneyan

Add "no ruins"

Also, not that it's a big thing, but I get tired of warpholes always being at the edge...I like the danger of not knowing where they are, so how about "warp points located anywhere"?

And isn't there a setting for "limit Primitive's ship count to 25"? We should turn that one on, too.

As to game setter-uppers, Geo might be reading and put aside his school books for a moment. The Baron has assisted in this before but I know he said his time has become limited. Same for Tesco. Considering it's a game with quite a few high rankings at stake, Asmala might step in and get us started.

Whoever does it, should generate (with ruins turned off) a medium spiral map that "looks good" for a team game and one that leans toward the large size (I've noticed that the size of the maps generated with medium can sometimes be kind of small).

primitive May 29th, 2004 04:40 PM

Re: Rated Challenges Thread
 
Or you could host it yourself Slynky. We have faith in you http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Slynky May 29th, 2004 04:44 PM

Re: Rated Challenges Thread
 
Quote:

Originally posted by primitive:
Or you could host it yourself Slynky. We have faith in you http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yeah, as IF!

If you are serious, though, I could be honest about it BUT editing the map to make player placement would be an unfair advantage...what with my photographic memory and all http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif .

primitive May 29th, 2004 05:17 PM

Re: Rated Challenges Thread
 
I'm serious, but maybe would be better to set out a call for a mapmaker. What about starting a separate thread for the grudge-match since I believe few people read the challenge thread every day (should help keep Gandalph P happy too http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif )

Could also be fun to post some updates (and a bit of trashtalk) during the game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Slynky May 29th, 2004 06:03 PM

Re: Rated Challenges Thread
 
Quote:

Originally posted by primitive:
I'm serious, but maybe would be better to set out a call for a mapmaker. What about starting a separate thread for the grudge-match since I believe few people read the challenge thread every day (should help keep Gandalph P happy too http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif )

Could also be fun to post some updates (and a bit of trashtalk) during the game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Nothing wrong with a bit of fun, I suppose...though I expect we will be tromped so fast there won't be any need for writing except for the epitaph.

I don't think Mark would mind a new thread...and I sent a PM to Asmala. I think he gets off work soon. Or course, he might be busy with something else.

Joachim May 30th, 2004 01:06 AM

Re: Rated Challenges Thread
 
Heh guys, I can host it for you if you are willing to risk a complete newb in the case of setting up a game and map and the like....

primitive May 30th, 2004 01:21 AM

Re: Rated Challenges Thread
 
Fine by me. Gotta be a first time for everyting http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Thanks, BTW

Mark the Merciful May 30th, 2004 02:20 AM

Re: Rated Challenges Thread
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Joachim:
Heh guys, I can host it for you if you are willing to risk a complete newb in the case of setting up a game and map and the like....
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Thanks Joachim. Go for it.


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