Re: SeaOfInnocence - All ages newb game
 

As far as I am concerned, I am OK with the Admiral getting wings while still having his feet wet. Both nations have different geopolitics.

Re: SeaOfInnocence - All ages newb game
 

I am ok with this on one condition. Caelium is currently only separated from me by a single province (which given the nature of Caelium is really no separation at all). My condition is that there is no war between a Caelium under Admiral Aorta and myself until at least two turns after I finish off LA Atlantis (I really don't want war with Caelium at all, but that much time at least to reorganize my forces and make Admiral's knowledge of my dispositions from his time as LA Atlantis obsolete in the event of war).

Re: SeaOfInnocence - All ages newb game
 

the thing is though. You can this way postpone war forever potentially. I say if there are 2 provinces left you get 10 turns or something like that without being attacked. Otherwise you can just sit on top of a castle and thus remain in peace forever.

Re: SeaOfInnocence - All ages newb game
 

I wouldn't attack anyone until I knew exactly how stromg Caelum is,what agreements I have with my neighbors and everything else.

Re: SeaOfInnocence - All ages newb game
 

In any case, as an immediate neighbor of Caelum, I would like a decision be made quickly so that I know how to handle my relations with that nation. For the time being, I took the decision to just ignore it, but it is not a sustainable option.

Re: SeaOfInnocence - All ages newb game
 

I'm finishing him off as fast as I can. Really, Caelium isn't in a good position to wage war on me... I just don't want to fight someone who can coordinate on two fronts and already knows what my dispositions are. I don't think that is unfair. What will be the last castle is underwater, which may drag things out a couple of turns, but I've also got a fair amount of magical items that let me go underwater, so not too many.

Re: SeaOfInnocence - All ages newb game
 

yea I agree with that if you are finishing him off asap.:)

Re: SeaOfInnocence - All ages newb game
 

Well I have just one fort left underwater, so if I'm going to take control of Caelum it should probably be soon.

Re: SeaOfInnocence - All ages newb game
 

I'm fine with now if everyone else is, whether you set Atlantis to AI or not. I know you don't have much of anything in that one fort anyways... it is only a matter of me pushing troops underwater to deal with it.... it will take time, but not much time.

Re: SeaOfInnocence - All ages newb game
 

Caelum doesn't have a password set, so if there's no objection I'll take over for them.