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Shardphoenix July 4th, 2012 06:23 AM

Re: BSoD (Newbie, LA, CBM 1.92) [Started!]
 
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Originally Posted by HoleyDooley (Post 807754)
Really interesting subject brought up though was the Utterdark being cast.

I had not thought of it in terms of hurting people you have NAPs with.

Now my mind has been awakened to this i would definitely cancel NAPs before hand.

AFAIK, all game-ender spells are considered breaking a NAP - even the ones that don`t hurt you directly, like Arcane Nexus, or Forge. Just because casting one is effectively saying "and now I gonna win this game".

parone July 4th, 2012 06:29 AM

Re: BSoD (Newbie, LA, CBM 1.92) [Started!]
 
shard-

so, say i was ulm and had a nap with you. do i have to give you three turns notice before i throw up the forge? or are you saying, i put it up, then our nap is null and void?

honestly just asking here.

HoleyDooley July 4th, 2012 07:14 AM

Re: BSoD (Newbie, LA, CBM 1.92) [Started!]
 
It has no direct negative effect on his income, gem or otherwise...so I would say no cancellation is necessary.

I believe what SP is saying (correct me if I am wrong SP)is that when you put up such globals...you put a giant target on your back.

Shardphoenix July 4th, 2012 09:31 AM

Re: BSoD (Newbie, LA, CBM 1.92) [Started!]
 
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or are you saying, i put it up, then our nap is null and void?
This. Forge, if used correctly, can promote a nation from "strong" to "unbeatable" in like 2-3 turns (and if one casts it - he, most likely, has enough gems and forging plan), so giving a 3-turn notice is a luxury that generally cannot be afforded. Same with Arcane Nexus - it can generate over 100 pearls/turn (assuming there is active endgame going), so it becomes nasty really fast.
Of course, it depends - sometimes those enchantments are more of a way to level playing field somewhat.

revenant2 July 4th, 2012 01:11 PM

Re: BSoD (Newbie, LA, CBM 1.92) [Started!]
 
This turn was crazy!

mattyburn7 July 4th, 2012 01:54 PM

Re: BSoD (Newbie, LA, CBM 1.92) [Started!]
 
How So?

revenant2 July 4th, 2012 02:57 PM

Re: BSoD (Newbie, LA, CBM 1.92) [Started!]
 
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Originally Posted by mattyburn7 (Post 807837)
How So?

We threw everything we had at Atlantis. If we had a kitchen sink we would have tossed it at him as well.

Don't worry Matty, we'll have some fun next turn ;)

mattyburn7 July 4th, 2012 03:09 PM

Re: BSoD (Newbie, LA, CBM 1.92) [Started!]
 
Yes. I saw that Army fast approaching...Fun Fun FUn!

revenant2 July 4th, 2012 03:10 PM

Re: BSoD (Newbie, LA, CBM 1.92) [Started!]
 
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Originally Posted by Russian_Comrade (Post 807793)
The main mistake that I did in game was not pressing you hard enough. After battle at your capital I had to keep pushing, even with no money to hire my troops. And I needed to buy more supply items faster, actually I had only one cauldorn when I assaulted your capital. The next turn my retreating forces mixed with reinforcments and were starved as a result.

That would have been pretty wild if you kept up the attack. I had real problems hurting your troops so you probably would have been able to cause a LOT of damage for me and possibly knock me out since I wouldn't have been able to withstand both you and Patala. However, that would have been quite a sacrifice on your part, and I'm not sure it would have helped you win the game because you would have been a sitting duck for Abysia then.

I think you made the right call, although I could tell that my dominion really messed you up economically. I was able to exploit that to a certain extent this past turn with that arouse hunger spam since most of your provinces only had 1 PD. By the way, this is one of the many reasons scouts are so dangerous: I had mapped all of our provinces defenses so I could pearl harbor your temples. I was originally going to just hit the temple provinces without fortresses, but then I realized I could hit ALL of your provinces in one turn. Don't hate me :)

By the way, who gave you that supply item? Bone Daddy would like to have a few words with your supplier :)

Russian_Comrade July 4th, 2012 03:44 PM

Re: BSoD (Newbie, LA, CBM 1.92) [Started!]
 
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I think you made the right call, although I could tell that my dominion really messed you up economically. I was able to exploit that to a certain extent this past turn with that arouse hunger spam since most of your provinces only had 1 PD. By the way, this is one of the many reasons scouts are so dangerous: I had mapped all of our provinces defenses so I could pearl harbor your temples. I was originally going to just hit the temple provinces without fortresses, but then I realized I could hit ALL of your provinces in one turn. Don't hate me
Hm. Do you realize that I was unable to even buy PD to get protection from riders before your attack due to the amusing fact that somehow last turn my money hit the zero? Same with you able to strike at my capital with plague. Pearl Harbor actually happened last turn, with my carriers sunk in the harbor as well.


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