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PvK January 2nd, 2004 02:46 AM

Re: Do you like Klingons?
 
Yes, and I've seen several conjectures to that effect, most saying that the Klingons got the BOPs from the Romulans.

PvK

Atrocities January 2nd, 2004 02:53 AM

Re: Do you like Klingons?
 
http://www.astmod.com/startrek/stmim...vort2bport.PNG

This would be interesting as a Romulan ship. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif I would say the Klingons got the better end of this deal. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

narf poit chez BOOM January 2nd, 2004 03:41 AM

Re: Do you like Klingons?
 
which brings up the question of why the romulans and the klingons would use a human idiom to name their ships... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Fyron January 2nd, 2004 06:32 AM

Re: Do you like Klingons?
 
Well that is just how you say bird of prey in english... surely there are birds on Romulus, and then there are hunting birds...

narf poit chez BOOM January 2nd, 2004 07:09 AM

Re: Do you like Klingons?
 
but still, my point stands. they might have 'birds of prey', but there's a good chance they wouldn't call them 'birds of prey'.

and i would vastly perfer it if everything in the world didn't get anglicized.

- Narf, who wrote up two much more angry Posts before going with this. rants, actually. why must humans be any greater than the aliens in the books? why are humans almost always portrayed as greater?

Atrocities January 2nd, 2004 08:38 AM

Re: Do you like Klingons?
 
Narf, I don't know if you know this but Star Trek was created by a human.

Star Trek is not real.

I make the models based on other movie and television work I have seen. I like the designs, and enjoy using these images in my game.

As to the names of things, well that gets back to who wrote the episode or came up with the name for the class of ship. Again human writers and model builders.

Additionally, if you look at things as if Star Trek were real, then it could be argued that the name Bird of Prey is in fact a human translation of a Romulan/klingon phrase.

Kamog January 2nd, 2004 08:45 AM

Re: Do you like Klingons?
 
I remember watching that Original Series episode where they encounter the Romulan ship, and it looks like a Klingon ship.

"That's a Klingon ship!"
"But it couldn't be, not in this area."
"Intelligence reports Romulans now using Klingon design."

My friend and I joked about this. We thought this is what happened when they were filming the episode:
...
Gene Roddenberry: "OK, now let's show the Romulan ship on the main screen, approaching the Enterprise."

*William Shatner accidentally knocks the model Romulan ship onto the floor, smashing it.*

William Shatner: "Ooops!"

Gene Roddenberry: "Hey, that's our ONLY Romulan ship model! What are we going to do?!"

Leonard Nimoy: "Um, we have this Klingon ship model. Let's just use that and say that the Romulans got the design in a trade agreement with the Klingons."

Gene Roddenberry: "All right, I guess we have no choice, we'll do that."

*William Shatner accidentally drops the Klingon model ship and wrecks it*

William Shatner: "Ooops!"

Gene Roddenberry: "Oh, no! NOW what do we do?"
...
So in the episode.... "Sir, the Romulans are now using Federation design!..."

Atrocities January 2nd, 2004 08:52 AM

Re: Do you like Klingons?
 
Please keep in mind that these are just prototype images only. I am still working on them all. The Romulan image is just something I threw in for sport. All images are 1024 x 768

Romulan Bird of Prey (Prototype)

Vort'Cha

Klingon BOP

Klingon D - 16 Battle Cruiser

narf poit chez BOOM January 2nd, 2004 08:58 AM

Re: Do you like Klingons?
 
yeah, i know there made by humans. i am a human. and i don't see why earth has to be the center of the universe in most sci-fi. it wasn't a comment on the ships you make, just a semi-random outburst.

Fyron January 2nd, 2004 09:12 AM

Re: Do you like Klingons?
 
Simple: the shows are made by humans and for humans, so making shows about humans makes the most money.


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