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Saber Cherry October 25th, 2003 02:31 AM

Re: OT: any other games?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by licker:
Wiz8 is great too, at least from the demo, but man, I got no time for that one http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The demo convinced me to get the game, very quickly. I have no idea how big the demo is because I only played it for an hour http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Wiz 8 is excellent, though I didn't beat it - only got halfway through. That's probably normal for me. It's a huge game.

Stavetor October 25th, 2003 06:12 AM

Re: OT: any other games?
 
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Originally posted by Vodalian:
Wow, I never expected to find Escape Velocity gamers here. I'm a devout follower of the series, even though the third and latest installment Nova was a disappointment to me. I would seriously suggest you to get a mac emulator and try out the two previous games. There are several guides on the net how to do it.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Or you could just get a Mac. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

You were disappointed by Nova? Really? I tried Override (the 2nd in the series) and hated it. Couldn't get it off my hard drive fast enough, to tell the truth. But for some reason I decided to give Nova a try, and I loved it. SE: Starfury looks to be more or less the same type of game, and I have a feeling that it will be better than the EV series. Time will tell.

I'm also a big fan of King of Dragon Pass and Alpha Centauri, both of which fortunately came out for the Macintosh. Other Favorites- SE4, War Engine, Age of Wonders 2, and Kohan: Ahriman's Gift. For those I've had to borrow my bro-in-law's girlfriend's Vaio, which is a drag but worth it in the end.

Pocus October 25th, 2003 07:57 AM

Re: OT: any other games?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Psitticine:
Alpha Centauri/Alien Crossfire are among my all-time Favorites. I am so hoping they'll announce development plans for a sequel some day!
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">many players still praise the games for features which are nowhere be seen in other games. The complex diplomacy/agenda features for example are really shining. You could even ask an ally to attack a specific city, and this is very cool to direct the AI.

The game is a bit too much on micro managing though. And the supply modules (dont remember their exact name) which gave you the production of a tile were too cheesy. The AI never used them by the way, so its was just a question of time before you outproduced him.

Still, it is one of my all time favourite.

Vodalian October 25th, 2003 08:12 AM

Re: OT: any other games?
 
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Originally posted by Stavetor:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Vodalian:
Wow, I never expected to find Escape Velocity gamers here. I'm a devout follower of the series, even though the third and latest installment Nova was a disappointment to me. I would seriously suggest you to get a mac emulator and try out the two previous games. There are several guides on the net how to do it.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Or you could just get a Mac. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

You were disappointed by Nova? Really? I tried Override (the 2nd in the series) and hated it. Couldn't get it off my hard drive fast enough, to tell the truth. But for some reason I decided to give Nova a try, and I loved it. SE: Starfury looks to be more or less the same type of game, and I have a feeling that it will be better than the EV series. Time will tell.

I'm also a big fan of King of Dragon Pass and Alpha Centauri, both of which fortunately came out for the Macintosh. Other Favorites- SE4, War Engine, Age of Wonders 2, and Kohan: Ahriman's Gift. For those I've had to borrow my bro-in-law's girlfriend's Vaio, which is a drag but worth it in the end.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">What hooked me to EV: Override and EV was the immersiveness of the universe. You could enter the spaceport and admire the 10 million-credit Kestrel and wonder how the hell could anyone afford it, when after 10 hours of play the largest sum of money you had held in your hands was 200,000. In EV: Nova, you could get a billion in 2 hours. One-man armies were also non-existant in the previous to games, but now all you need is a spiced up starbridge and you are ready to take over the univers. There were also some unpolishedness to EVN, which took away much of its immersiveness. And believe me, if you deleted EVO off your computer right away, you missed a lot. The Human-Voinian conflict plays only a small role in what happens in the universe. Additionally, the plug-in Frozen Heart, which beats any of the EV scenarios hands down, only appeared on EVO.

[ October 25, 2003, 07:13: Message edited by: Vodalian ]

Mortifer October 25th, 2003 12:50 PM

Re: OT: any other games?
 
Guys FYI, if any of you want to see a decent AI, try out Warlords 4. on hardest. Hats off, the AI is really kicking some ***. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

MythicalMino October 25th, 2003 02:47 PM

Re: OT: any other games?
 
hmmm....interesting....

I have unlocked the full Version of Stars! (finally got the serial number in email)....reading through the Online strat guide....pretty deep sounding at any rate....

With this and Alpha Centauri, i won't even notice the time till the demo comes out http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Mortifer October 25th, 2003 06:16 PM

Re: OT: any other games?
 
Well wow, I am really impressed by the Warlords 4. AI.
It is making excellent strategic moves.
I had an insane battle.

me + 2 AIs on the map: 1v1v1
I was on south, AI 1 on north east, AI 2 on north west. There is a very important thing. You cannot wander around and doing quest, you must attack asap when you can. [When you can: when your retinue units had arrived.]
So I attacked AI 1 when I had a small but powerful force. I had a nice battle with the AI, but thanks to my experienced units I managed to kill it. AI 2 became very strong meanwhile. I forced to gather all my armies in the middle. The battles Lasted for more than 1 hour with AI 2 in the middle. He kept coming but with a small sneak force I slowly destroyed his northern cities. [I kept defending the middle.]

Guess what. The AI launched a sneak attack on my south!..just like I did on the north! I was like WOW! This AI is really decent.
He razed 5 of my towns to the south with this sneak force.

There were more battles, but after ~1 more hours I captured his capital.

All I can say that this AI is really awesome. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

Psitticine October 26th, 2003 11:06 PM

Re: OT: any other games?
 
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Originally posted by Pocus:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Psitticine:
Alpha Centauri/Alien Crossfire are among my all-time Favorites. I am so hoping they'll announce development plans for a sequel some day!

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">many players still praise the games for features which are nowhere be seen in other games. The complex diplomacy/agenda features for example are really shining. You could even ask an ally to attack a specific city, and this is very cool to direct the AI.

The game is a bit too much on micro managing though. And the supply modules (dont remember their exact name) which gave you the production of a tile were too cheesy. The AI never used them by the way, so its was just a question of time before you outproduced him.

Still, it is one of my all time favourite.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I agree 100% about the supply pods. They always seemed a bit kludgy to me, and some of the benefits they gave were rather . . . odd. Some made sense, of course, but others were just too "magic" for a game like that.

I didn't have much problem with the micro-management, but I also preferred smaller-map games. I can see how it would be much more of a challenge keeping up with things on those huge planet maps.

My favorite part was the whole living planet concept, with the monoliths and the sentient/sleeping ecosystem. I hope that, if they ever do a sequel, it will either expand on that concept or add something equally fascinating to explore.

Fyron October 27th, 2003 03:30 AM

Re: OT: any other games?
 
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Originally posted by Stavetor:
Or you could just get a Mac. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That would be a waste of money just to play two old games. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Stavetor October 27th, 2003 05:34 AM

Re: OT: any other games?
 
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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Stavetor:
Or you could just get a Mac. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That would be a waste of money just to play two old games. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">If it's just for the purpose of playing those two games, then yeah, I suppose so. Especially since those games are now available on Windows. But then again, what price freedom from the Blue Screen of Death? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif


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