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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">If an option could be made to repeat every order X times (hold, attack, fire, cast spell..) it'll be even more cool ! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">There is something to this. Currently the only way to prohibit certain spells to your Mages is to avoid that line of Research entirely. This is not ideal.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I think he meant one spellbook that is the same for *all* Mages. (A yes/no flag for any battlefield spell researched if it should be used by your Mages or not.)

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">If an option could be made to repeat every order X times (hold, attack, fire, cast spell..) it'll be even more cool ! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Too much control. I actually like that you have to work with limited options.

But there should be an option to globally "gray out" spells that you want your Mages never to use.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I believe that it is your fault http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif . IIRC mages will not attack unless told to. If the arch devil is tired and then attacks you are to blame. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">mmmh, I was speaking of indeps (so my reference to scenarios), or AI units which are not scripted too. AI should have a max fatigue limit depending on how melee-able is the caster.

edit : a max fatigue level that the AI strives to not pass.

[ January 27, 2004, 21:12: Message edited by: Pocus ]

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What I would like is the same (with some adaptations of course, like removing spellcasting, obviously, and adding a fire "single round command" on the topmost list) orders screen for units as the one for commanders.

It will use already existing implemented UI/mechanics, and alleviate a lot of problems commonly mentioned.

It will help against firendly fire (you could script your bow troops to fire-fire-fire then hide behind other troops). It will give value and flexibility to dual weapon types troops (light infantry/cavalry/poison spitters), with orders like hold-hold-fire-fire then attack closest.
It will also help "coordinate" flankers (very fast and flying units attacking without support even with hold and attacks) with slower units. Exemple : your huscarls could be set to attack closest, your vans could be hold-hold-attack rearmost, and your valkyries could be set to hold-hold-hold-hold-attack rearmost (just examples, not sure how it would work out in reality http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif ).

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Also, tactics designed to exploit the tactical combat ai should be squashed. One example I read was to attack a large army with a force of only hydras. When the hydras routed(which was planned) they would leave a trail of poison into which the enemy army would run. This evidently results in a VERY positive kill:loss ratio. Maybe, this is part of the reason Pythium is considered overpowered. I would be very disappointed if these types of engine exploits were used in a multi-player game.

Aikamun

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That is an expensive and slow way. The more prevelant and exploitive way of using the AI is against indeps (for early expansion). Their Archers/xbows/missile units are all set to fire closest. Thus you can leave a single unit with a shield in front of a mass line of archers. Most of the time if you have a decent archer brigade, the lone shield bearing lamb will surive due to the spread of arrowfire, while you incure no losses and most indeps break before they get to your line.

Another is that all normal fighting troops are on attack closest (as far as I can tell, I've never had anyone attack a flank that didn't engage them first). So you can exploit it in that fashion with spells, retreating options, etc.

Side Note: Nearly all Indeps (with the exception of some Amber Tritons, Amazonians) have only normal priests for their morale support. So you can easily use fear to cause routs without worrying about any losses.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Not sure if units should really be as flexible as commanders.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Engine exploit? Are you sure this wouldn´t work in real life? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

I think this is cute Hydra tactics, rather than an exploit. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif