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I've seen them get the affliction but they don't seem to be affected by it. The corporeal undead, I can understand that with. Dead flesh can certainly harbor a microbe or two. I don't quite get it with the ethereal types, however.

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[quote]Originally posted by Graeme Dice:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Argitoth:

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Originally posted by Zen: They would be distracted by the undead and then fatigued and STAY fatigued after rigor mortis. TRUST MEH!!

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">What undead? Wind rided commanders are the attackers, defenders get the first move. A lightning bolt can hit him in turn 1. Not to mention what a wither bones would do to him. Your script has no raise skeletons either. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Must I explain every detail? *shakes head in disappointment*.

Arrite, there's a good chance the lightning bolts will miss since I would put him in the back of the field. And if WR makes him go to the middle then there's still a good chance of survival. Ok, that solves the dieing first round problem

Next problem is wither bones. One time it was about 15 mages VS a single vampire queen. Each one was scripted to cast eagle eyes and wither bones. For some damn reason, every single mage missed the vampire. Now remember, the vampire can fly, so the vampire was POINT BLANK to my mages. The vampire attacked the skeletons my mages had summoned and my 15 mages casted wither bones again, each one missing when the damn queen was point blank... So I'm assuming that this will happen again with my pretender and note the undead horde will be very distracting.

Ok, now you say I didn't script any raise skeletons. First of all the spell "Undead Horde" takes 1 gem and summons 12+ effects. With a lvl 8 death mage that should be 16 undead a casting. Now about the scripting. Telling my pretender to "Cast Spells" does the job for me. When you got a lvl 8 pretender with 30 death gems, you seriously don't need to script anything. The AI is damn good about choosing spells when you got lvl 8 alteration and lvl 6 enchantment. (all of the best spells for an undead commander)

Oh yeah, and most air-oriented nations cannot cast wither bones, if any. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

[ February 23, 2004, 05:18: Message edited by: Argitoth ]

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Well if you have all those researched. I'm sure having Astral Fires is no problem. So he'll just cast that, and your poor undead all die.

Boo-hoo. ;P

Or maybe he has a JMC on a guy with an Eye of Precision. They are fairly accurate even across the entire map.

Or maybe, all they do is cast Paralyze with someone with 4+ in Astral, and paralyze you even with 24 MR.

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Which air nations are those, Caelum with Harab Elders? Pythium who don't even need Lightning? Or Vanheim with Svarts?

And most get at least 1 in Death, all they need to do is cast Dust to Dust and your Saurolich is going to be dying.

Undead are some of the easiest things to kill. All they need is a swarm of spring hawks on you with attack rear as their first orders, and your saurolich goes poof.

But I guess if they can cast Wind Ride they wouldn't even try casting Spring Hawks.

There are plenty of ways to stop getting your pretender wind ride'd but unless the person is a complete moron they will more than likely kill you.

[ February 23, 2004, 05:29: Message edited by: Zen ]

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Have you ever seen lots of spring hawks and swarms attacking a lvl 8 death pretender with 30 death gems?

One casting of bone grinding and 70% of all of them die. The spring hawks route while pretty much every single swarm-bug dies, and don't forget I have pulled off 5 bone grindings in a single battle EVEN when my pretender was in melee combat. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif Oh yeah and sauroliches have a great 17 protection. really helps.

But anyway, if you prepare ahead of time for my pretender, there's a chance you could kill it if you have smart mages... Oh shoot I just remembered -7 dominion makes saurolich have like 10 hitpoints or something.

[ February 23, 2004, 16:46: Message edited by: Argitoth ]

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Spring hawks no, but I have seen about 20 eagle warriors do it. They did it twice actually.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Spring Hawks do not rout. They are mindless, ethereal creatures, the same as the other Seasonal Spirits. You're thinking Black Hawks.

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OHHH damn that's right.

I was thinking spring hawks were regular hawks.

Are those etheral? Ethereal beings rarely are effecting by bone grinding. So spring hawks would kill me... that is if I was dumb enough not to very EASILY forge a ring of protection from lightning. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif Problem solved.

But my pretender would still die due to the high dominion, not to mention he might kill himself with bone grinding. Usually I have a 1 astral sacrificial shaman cast body etheral on my pretender. (usually the shaman is effected by etheral too)

[ February 24, 2004, 03:36: Message edited by: Argitoth ]

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Since you live in the U.S.A, I'll go ahead and say this: the correct root word to use is "affect", not "effect". "Effect" is a noun. "Affect" is a verb. You are using the word as a verb. So you should have said "affected by bone grinding", and "affected by ethereal".

That's the English lesson for the day. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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omg... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif