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Tuskerlove June 8th, 2004 09:23 PM

Re: OT: Flowers for the grave of MoM.
 
Does anyone know how I can get Windows XP Professional to play MoM? I have a brand new MoM disc sitting in my office a thome but I can't load it on XP. I was was actually going to buy a Windows 98 computer so I could play it again.

Sorry if this is a ignorant question ~ I tried playing the game in an emulation mode but it still crashed. Any advice would be appeciated.

I've had this problem on some of my other software as well.

June 8th, 2004 09:29 PM

Re: OT: Flowers for the grave of MoM.
 
Try using DosBox. Some people can get XP to work for them on XP by just using the memory functions of XP for individual exes, but for myself, Dosbox is the only thing that has worked.

You can find it here

http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/news.php?show_news=1

There is a specific help area on the forums of Dosbox for MoM. It also tells you to probably use the Speed up Function in Dosbox if MoM is crawling for you.

Edit: Dosbox will also run most sound cards. So you get the old school music running in the background. A must for old fans. Also there was, at one time, a hex-balance for some things, (including settlers having water movement) to counter some of the AI stupidity.

[ June 08, 2004, 22:10: Message edited by: Zen ]

Scott Hebert June 8th, 2004 11:05 PM

Re: OT: Flowers for the grave of MoM.
 
Well, I don't know about any problems you might be having, Zen, but I'm able to run MoM on my XP Professional machine just fine. Tuskerlove, what I did was edit the properties of the magic.exe file. I run it in Win95 compatibility mode, with all memory settings set to Auto, and the HMA box under Extended Memory checked. This gets it to run, for me. Now, I don't know how to set the sound options to get it to recognize my sound card, but that's secondary.

Hope this helps. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Scott

spirokeat June 8th, 2004 11:06 PM

Re: OT: Flowers for the grave of MoM.
 
In relation to Chaos Overlords.

To be honest, I trust reviewers about as much as I trust a crack addict with my Tele. CO was a fantastic game, amazingly bug free, easy to play and get into and SHONE in MP.

As a theme style player (sandboxer?) I loved the detail on the gangs and how you had to set them up, street level gangs out causing chaos to extort you cash and your hitech merc gangs and Monk orders patrolling your borders taking out rivals and expanding terrirtory.

It was very stylish, equiping your Metal Moshers gang with shades and ghetto bLasters to cause hassle and generate cash. My fave, the Neck Kickers a melee gang that specialised in kicking people in the neck !!

Your right though, it was less about robbery etc than a conceptual representation of it via chaos and control. The rest was empire and research to keep your gangs equiped and in the game.

The one innovative thing was you could create MP games where everyone was annoymous in terms of the real player...I dont recall the exact mechanics of it, but you could play so only the server sys knew who the other players were RL. One classic game myself and housemate whos puter was next to mine, posed as 2 of the other 6 friends in the game, no one knew if it was the real people playing themselves as a ruse or one of the others imitating and which ones anyway ! was a hoot !.

Still, back to MoM, Someone mentioned the intro....how classic was that....Its still a bit of a chant amongst my friends, 'OLD MAN !!!!!! YOU SEEK !!! Etc. hehe.

Who liked the diplomacy in Moo ? it was kinda good and kinda bad at the same time at least you could attempt to divert a nation by making offerings etc which was good and you could also manipulate the higher tech races into trading **** with you.

One thing with DOM is that once you attack be it by accident as you both go for an Inde, you are at war and they single mindedly go for you.

Spiro.

Tuskerlove June 9th, 2004 01:23 AM

Re: OT: Flowers for the grave of MoM.
 
Thanks guys - I can't wait to play it again its been too long! Unfortunately, it is going to wait a couple more days though as I'm addicted to the game I'm playing. I did d/l DosBox and I'll try it this weekend ~ thank again!

Masters of Orion II was awesome an awesome game btw!

E. Albright June 10th, 2004 08:34 PM

Re: OT: Flowers for the grave of MoM.
 
[Edit: EFS discussion]
Quote:

Originally posted by PrinzMegaherz:
[...] The AI is much to hard and builds insane amounts of everything even on the easiest difficulty level.

By the time I got my first dreadnought the AI had several of them orbiting nearly every planet.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Bah. Torpedo bombers. Dreads are naught but high-priced artillery...

(Oh, and like Dom, difficulty affects a player's initial setup, not how the AI plays.)

[ June 10, 2004, 19:59: Message edited by: E. Albright ]

Aetius June 11th, 2004 05:23 AM

Re: OT: Flowers for the grave of MoM.
 
Wow! My favorite games of all time in one thread, Dom II, MoM, and EFS. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Lunaticus June 11th, 2004 08:03 AM

Re: OT: Flowers for the grave of MoM.
 
Does anyone have an url for the patches for EFS?
Thanks in advance.
Lunaticus

Gandalf Parker June 11th, 2004 04:45 PM

Re: OT: Flowers for the grave of MoM.
 
It would be best if someone uses the "private message" button, or emails you a link. If its a patch site it might be OK but a link where you can get the game is frowned on here. (it is a forum owned by a game company after all) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ June 11, 2004, 15:46: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]

Pirateiam June 11th, 2004 04:56 PM

Re: OT: Flowers for the grave of MoM.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Anglachel:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by PDF:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Anglachel:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by FadingSuns:
MoM alone caused me to upgrade my computer. The animation for the nodes brought my 486 to a stuttering standstill. I loved the game enough to sink cash into a new system just to get that one part to run smoothly.
Dom2 might do the same for me now. I can run the battles smoothly with the 'world' hidden, but where's the fun with that? Lush battle graphics deserve to be seen!
MoM is still going to be #1 for me, at least until I start being able to stomp some races in Dom2. Gotta love the Myrror world!

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Oh Wow! Your name just reminded me of a game that I really liked that I would love to find a copy of if there is one around. Empire of the Fading Sun. Flawed as it was, I loved that game and its flavor. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The mods -much better than the original- are also still floating around. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
I still have everything installed, but have difficulty playing MoM and EoFS with my new Athlon2400xp rig - still in W98SE but my old mem settings with emm386 don't work anymore ... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Thanks for the heads up http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I have a Anthlon XP system running MOM using Abandon loader. To get around the problem with expanded memory just open up your config.sys with notepad and remove the NOEMS in the Device code line. Should work fine. If you are confused I can e-mail you the edited config.sys file. Good luck.


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