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Re: New pretender gods

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Alneyan said:
I gather there is no way for us to script a new summoning spell, but the rest should be possible to do with a mod. Would it be possible to give the "pretender" zero hitpoints, or would the game complain? You might also want to give this pretender a few abilities; what about the Heat ability and the Fire Vulnerability one? Fire Vulnerability might be overkill though, but that should make sure the pretender won't survive the Horror attack. Too bad it wouldn't be good enough to kill this pretender outside battle.

I doubt it would work, actually. I know disease auras don't affect the individual units from which they emanate(1 apparition won't disease itself, but a group will disease each other). I imagine heat auras work the same way.

However, Lifelong Protection style imps or whatnot, on "guard commander" orders, with heat auras and an unwavering work ethic, should be more than enough to do the poor bastard in, if it ever sets foot on a battlefield.

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I like your artifact pretender, but then, I have always had something for rainbow mages (especially if they happen to be more or less useless; don't ask).

The artifact pretender wasn't my idea, I just approve wholeheartedly of it. rylen suggested it on page one, and this thread was three pages long when I happened upon it.
The incorporeal god idea is mine, and is somewhat similar, though probably inferior; it's got less going for it, stylistically, and probably isn't half as strategically interesting.
I'm also a big fan of thoroughly useless rainbow mages, by the way.

Re: New pretender gods

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Kristoffer O said:
Edit: hmm, this gremlin is looking disturbingly like some dead german leader.

[belated response] No, it does not. Grow up. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif[/belated response]

Re: New pretender gods

A shame; it would have been so amusing to see your Pretender die because of his own heat aura. *Improved* Imps (notice the irony) with the Heat aura should certainly do the trick however, especially if you happen to cut down their wings and thus make them immobile. You do not want the Imps to go away before their summoner has been completely killed; these Pretenders can be so bothering and refuse to die, even when they are about as powerful as a limp and blind dragonfly.

I guess I didn't pay enough attention to the part of the thread when artifact Pretenders were mentioned. Credits go to the original poster then. How wonderful a Rainbow mage is indeed, especially when its paths mirror your national mages strengths (I did it in Try Something New, though I managed to pick one path not already covered by my own mages at least).

Going back to the topic of Pretenders, may I have a nice Succubus as Pretender? Please? A Vampire Queen might do the trick here, but she is definitively too powerful, and so will not qualify under my tastes for "nigh useless gods, whose only purpose is to give a good casus belli to invade neighbours". It would also be one of the few Pretenders able to meddle in assassinations, and assorted pastimes.

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A thought: R'lyeh should have a mindless, permafeebleminded, obscenely huge, higher than 18 MR, 20-30% regenerating, battlefield feebleminding(MR easily negates), 200 or so points-costing, nigh-unkillable pretender. And where dragon pretenders occasionally trigger bloodslave-devouring bad events, this thing should trigger army-devouring events.

Re: New pretender gods

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Vicious Love said:
A thought: R'lyeh should have a mindless, permafeebleminded, obscenely huge, higher than 18 MR, 20-30% regenerating, battlefield feebleminding(MR easily negates), 200 or so points-costing, nigh-unkillable pretender. And where dragon pretenders occasionally trigger bloodslave-devouring bad events, this thing should trigger army-devouring events.

Thinking of Azathoth? I was wondering about this very kind of pretender this morning.

Re: New pretender gods

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Curwen said:
Thinking of Azathoth? I was wondering about this very kind of pretender this morning.

Yup.

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Of course, properly simulating capital G, singular form God, or possibly even gratuitously all-capped GOD, with his mindless but very much literal omnipotence, his raw biggosity, orders of magintude bigger than the limits of human imagination of bigdom, really so inconceivably biggious there's no point in trying to describe him, would take about a billion nation points. I suppose we could balance it out by taking away R'lyeh's water magic and Atlantean thralls.

Still, we could always go with a mini-Azathoth, one a bit smaller than the universe itself.

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Molog said:
Stumbled across this webpage, might be interresting: http://www.geocities.com/fmunoz_/dominions/

Also check out 'The Battle for Wesnoth'. Munoz made the graphics and I think he's one of the original developers. It's free and fun.

http://www.wesnoth.org/index.htm

Re: New pretender gods

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Kristoffer O said:

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Molog said:
Stumbled across this webpage, might be interresting: http://www.geocities.com/fmunoz_/dominions/

Also check out 'The Battle for Wesnoth'. Munoz made the graphics and I think he's one of the original developers. It's free and fun.

http://www.wesnoth.org/index.htm

Nice little game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
Do you know more such indy gems ?
I know one too which is quite similiar and funny too :
Vantage master
http://www.falcom.co.jp/vantage/index_e.html

Re: New pretender gods

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Kristoffer O said:
Also check out 'The Battle for Wesnoth'. Munoz made the graphics and I think he's one of the original developers. It's free and fun.

http://www.wesnoth.org/index.htm

It's more fun than WC3, has a decent storyline and, as icing on the cake, it's free. Thanks for posting the link, Kris! It's a nice diVersion for me from playing Caelum (which I've been doing to amuse myself by seeing how not-overwhelming Caelum is).

Re: New pretender gods

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Kristoffer O said

What scrying bowl have you been looking into?

Edit: hmm, this gremlin is looking disturbingly like some dead german leader.

And I thought he looked just like a certain hoburg hero http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif