Re: Netiquette
 

Well, I read this subthread slightly differently - to me it went like this

...which was obviously implied since the beginning. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

OK, then we never were on the same wavelength - and I'll agree with you on that - Mictlan definitelty needs Construction 6 before starting to summon Ice Devils without water magic on its pretender. Question closed. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

I never implied it was offensive. In mainland France, "gosses" just means "kids", and I've been told by friends who went to Québec (and made the mistake I related) it was used for something completely different here. When you say "Let me show you a photo of my kids" and they understand "let me show you a photo of my ..." (well something Tarzan has a pair of, and Jane hasn't), it's still somewhat... embarassing. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

Re: Netiquette
 

heh http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

implies an alternate line of action, not dependent upon putting W3 on your pretender http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

I prefer an F9 blessing for mictlan. It gives a bit more punch, and the benefits to your SC are definitely greater. However, it does tend to preclude the ID rush, at least if you go for a dragon. The Golden Naga in zen's mod is a nice choice for all things though... (F9 W3 A3 E3 B1 should be possible, or close to it, w/ correspondingly ****ty scales. But mictlan can survive ****ty scales, so..)


i think "sales gosses" is even more evocative ;-)

Re: Netiquette
 

You never give up, do you? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif OK, this round is yours. [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/ArrowRight.gif[/img]

So do I, actually.

Well, at least mine aren't. I go to the "douche" every morning.

Re: Netiquette
 

heh http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

back to the actualy topic, in un-modded DomII, I think my overall preference is to the Moloch, and I was wondering how others' experiences w/ him were. True, you have to put a bit of work getting around his love of fleeing, but besides that he fits the bill perfectly for me.

I put air on him, but certainly putting water on him instead seems a plausible alternative, especially if you wait to throw a ring of regen on him.

Re: Mictlan Pretenders ideas request
 

Err. tried this in one MP game as a thematic Mictlan pretender, and it turned out quite well in the long run, though it was (in retrospect) a very risky proposition as it relied on being able to expand far away from my capital to have somewhere to put my researchers and on construction to enable a Rain Priest to summon Ice Devils, which, of course, took longer time due to low initial research, which means I would have lost out in an Ice Devil rush (which did not happen in that game). It did give me a very powerful SC throughout the game and a super ritual caster, and the bless effects (though minor) were well thought of by every single Priest-Mage. Having tried it, I am not sure I would dare use such a setup in MP again as the number of things that can go wrong are large. However, when it works...

Lord of the Night
Dominion 7
Air 3
Earth 4
Astral 6
Death 4
Blood 5

Order 3
Production -3
Heat 3
Growth 1
Fortune -2
Magic -3
Mausoleum

On heat: Income takes a hit but devils like it
On magic: Research as far away from your starting point as possible and/or next to somebody with a magic scale. The best you can get is a "0" effect but that is quite enough if you buy enough of Michtlan's priests. It is also nice to get MR bonuses back home where important mages make rituals.

Re: Mictlan Pretenders ideas request
 

Whooh, thanks for all your valuable input ! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
(though it's sometimes a bit lengthy ... Nagot should be a novelist, what about writing "Dominions War & Peace" ? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif )

On my side I was thinking of a stupid Blood Fountain like B6 A4 S4 (Bloodhunt, Storm Demons & WS, Hellbind,high Blood and Astral rituals...),
Scales O3/S3/H2/G2/L2/M3,
Dom6,
WatchTower
but it's surely very poor in early game, and early game is difficult for Mictlan http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Re: Mictlan Pretenders ideas request
 

"Dominions Wake" would be more my style... although the result probably would be a weird piece of litterature! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/stupid.gif

Why Heat 2 when you can afford Heat 1?

Re: Mictlan Pretenders ideas request
 

Hmm.. either you're making fun of me, or I'm forgetting the only useful words I've ever learned in the French language http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/shock.gif

It might work well on low independent settings. I guess it also depends on whether you're using Zen's pretender mod. I like the new fountain since it gives free blood slaves each turn, but that's probably more valuable to, say, Diabolic Faith Marignon than Mictlan.

Re: Mictlan Pretenders ideas request
 

I'm not making fun of you, it's just "binouse" seems to be used in parts of France and not in others, and I had never seen or heard it before. Now that I've learned what it means... could I have another binouse please? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

Re: Mictlan Pretenders ideas request
 

In 40 years spent in France I've never heard of a "binouse", surely it's a local word/idiom ...
About Heat2 : Nagot, I just follow your advice of taking one more scale point that preferred by the nation, so overall the provinces will more tend to desired Heat-1 [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Cold.gif[/img] Did you forget it ? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif