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VaultDweller January 24th, 2005 04:59 PM

Re: Carrier Battles Mod
 
Suicide:

The more you describe your idea, the better it sounds. Can't wait to check it out.

PvK January 24th, 2005 10:10 PM

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Quote:

Suicide Junkie said:
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Added the cannon mounts. From 20mm to 100mm in 5 steps. -10% accuracy per level, variable increases in damage power up to +70% for the biggie. The biggest two get a range increase as a bonus.
Weapon size scales as radius squared, so you get the whole gamut from 2kt guns to 50kt guns.
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Hmm. Doesn't this mean that 2kT guns have much more firepower AND accuracy than the same tonnage of larger guns? Or is the 70% firepower advantage calculated per kT, so the 50kT gun actually does 50/2 x 1.7 = 42.5 times the damage of a 2kT gun?

PvK

Suicide Junkie January 24th, 2005 10:14 PM

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+70% in damage/kt/turn
Plus the fact that they're huge makes them do tons of damage

so the 2kt gun might do 2 damage, while the 50kt gun does 85 ish.

Nodachi January 24th, 2005 10:16 PM

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Don't quote me on this, but isn't that true in reality? Take a .22 caliber rifle and scale it up to a 16 inch bore and (ignoring physics) it'll outperform a 16 inch battleship gun.

ZeroAdunn January 25th, 2005 04:28 AM

Re: Carrier Battles Mod
 
So, how are missiles going to be handled?

Suicide Junkie January 25th, 2005 02:01 PM

Re: Carrier Battles Mod
 
Could you be more specific?

Atrocities January 25th, 2005 02:13 PM

Re: Carrier Battles Mod
 
Suggestions for weapons.

Rock slinger I - X gives way to
Space Bow I - X gives way to
Star Bow I - X gives way to
BB Gun I - X gives way to
Enhanced BB Gun I - X gives way to
Slug Gun I - X gives way to
Bore Gun I - X gives way to
Cannon I - X gives way to
DUC I - X gives way to
Gas Laser Gun I - X gives way to
Chemical Laser Gun I - X gives way to
Phased Energy Cannon I - X gives way to
Phasers I - X gives way to
Enhanced Phasers I - X gives way to
Poloron Beam I - X gives way to
Phased Poloron Beam I - X gives way to
Wave Motion Gun I - X

Suicide Junkie January 25th, 2005 02:58 PM

Re: Carrier Battles Mod
 
The way I see weapons is a set of advantages and disadvantages...

Eg:
DUC: average
Ripper - very short range, + high damage
Laser: + Long range, - less damage, + low supply use
Torpedo: + accuracy bonus, - less damage
and so on.
SE3 style, sort of, with it being mostly a balanced tech hedge rather than a tall tech tree.

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Missiles will be the only things with serious range, probably 20 + no fizzle.
There will probably be a comparable number of missile types to DF weapon types, with tradeoffs in:
- damage vs speed vs hitpoints vs warhead type vs reload rate vs cost and such.

Suicide Junkie January 25th, 2005 07:17 PM

Re: Carrier Battles Mod
 
I think a thickness mount for armor will be good too:
EG:
Steel Armor Plating I
size - 1
HP - 3

Then we have mounts:
1-inch plating: size x1, hp x10
2-inch plating: size x2, hp x18
3-inch plating: size x3, hp x24
4-inch plating: size x4, hp x32

The rationale being as follows:
Thicker plating is less efficient in hp/kt, however the large hp per component makes it less leaky, and also improves the performance of any leaky shields which are still operating.

For example, the 1-inch steel plating (when shields are not destroyed) will be immune to weapons of less than 30 damage per hit.
4-inch plating, on the other hand, will have 80% the structural strength of the thin armor, but will be immune to weapons of less than 96 damage.

Ed Kolis January 25th, 2005 07:33 PM

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I suggested something like this for Adamant a while back (well, I suggested standard armor and then light and heavy armor mounts) but Fyron said it would be too complicated; he only wanted 2 types of armor http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Just a silly question... why are you measuring the gun bores in millimeters but the armor in inches? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

edit: oh, and maybe it would be good to have a "default" thickness for armor - in other words, instead of your scheme where the armors have 3 HP unmounted and the mounts raise their hitpoints by factors of 10-32, have the armors 30 HP unmounted and have the mounts raise their hitpoints by factors of 1 (no raise) to 3.2. That way if you forget to use a mount on your armor you're not screwed, you just get a "default" 1-inch armor http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif


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