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WBWilder September 24th, 2005 01:12 PM

Re: About Patch or Version 2.0
 
IN THE MEANTIME! Instead of waiting, I am playing. I was playing it before the first patch and I'm playing and designing in it now.

And if another patch never comes out I'll still be playing it and designing scenarios for it.

I really am looking forward to the section that assures me that AI units will observe the reaction turns and waypoints. I still have AI units that just won't do that in this version, even when following "protocol" for making it happen. This little bit of control of the AI is VERY helpful in designing scenarios.

WB

Artur September 24th, 2005 03:07 PM

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Quite right Bill http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif. I am working hard on a campaign for the contest announced at SZO http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif.

Artur.

Nightblade September 24th, 2005 04:33 PM

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Quote:

Instead of waiting, I am playing. I was playing it before the first patch and I'm playing and designing in it now.
And if another patch never comes out I'll still be playing it and designing scenarios for it.

Right on the point.

I am very glad to The Camo Workshop for the upcoming patch, but i am even more glad to them for allowing me to play WinSP:MBT .

Pepper September 24th, 2005 06:41 PM

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Quote:

markgame said:
People might consider that it would be appropriate just to behave nicely to one another! Sadly, like bad drivers, anonymity breeds boorishness. If we were talking face to face we'd be buying each other beers and commiserating about last minute gotchas in our lives, too.

I too have been waiting and checking for the patch, but if it's not ready tonight, so be it. I'll just check back and see who remains boorish http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

best post on this topic yet.

as you all know from your own lives, crap happens. when we focus on the crap it just takes an unfortunate situation and makes it even worse.

with that, I think I'll go have a beer and play some battlefield 2....

Artur September 26th, 2005 05:47 AM

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Is there a new official date for the patch? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Artur.

Pyros September 26th, 2005 06:29 AM

Re: About Patch or Version 2.0
 
Artur,

The patch will be released when it is ready.
As you already know, the patch was scheduled for release during the period of the weekend, but a last moment issue has postponed the release.

From my personal knowledge this particular problem is already solved so (perhaps) the time of release should be shortly announced.

cheers,
Pyros

p.s Just a small note: If neither Don or Andy had mentioned anything specific about the release of a patch, then no one would ever request an exact release date. You must understand that everyone and each of you receive amazing technical support from both Don G. and Andy G. and this is something very rare in the gaming industry. From my point of view whenever you don't hear news from a developer it is because he is totally devoted in the development of his project.
Please understand that these people have been working countless hours during a very big period of time for providing you with an excellent game.
Don't be so demanding, for something that doesn't really matter (few days of justified delay in the release of a patch).

Listy September 26th, 2005 06:29 AM

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I've tested a few games and campaigns for the SP series. I would like to make some observations.

1. Most of the people who playtest and design are not employed, but are volunteers. We have our own lives to look after.

2. Bugs show up and need to be fixed, then tested. Wild Bill will probably remember the release date Overshoot that happened to lost victories Mega campaign for SPWAW. IIRC it was several months.

3. The game will arive, but how would you like to DL a second rate patch with huge bugs in it? Sounds like a microsoft product.. needs updating every two weeks as a new Issue is found... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Artur September 26th, 2005 07:21 AM

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Pyros said:
...
Don't be so demanding, for something that doesn't really matter (few days of justified delay in the release of a patch).

I am very sorry Pyros BUT i was not demanding anything _just_ asking very nicely. I fully understand if there will be no more deadlines set, I have no problem with that. But if you make people being afraid to ask about things that is something else...

Artur.

Pyros September 26th, 2005 08:37 AM

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Artur,

Not only your contribution inside the SP community is remarkable but you are also a very nice person.
You are always welcome to ask whatever you wish but please keep in mind that the best questions to ask are the ones related with the "Why" and "How" (on the other hand the more stressing are the ones related with the "When exactly")... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

Anyway, I don't know the "When exactly" and I don't care to ask for it, because I know very well that all the persons involved in this task (release) are doing their best to provide you with a great patch as soon as possible.

Friendly yours,
Pyros

WBWilder September 26th, 2005 12:38 PM

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For those who have not done a "patch," (I have in a number of games), remember that it requires research and testing... LOTS http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/rant.gif of testing.

Sometimes when you fix one problem, you cause another. You won't know that until you test it thoroughly. A patch is not a "quick fix." Its a rather complicated, long process.

Keep that in mind. I've been involved in efforts where a patch was sent out prematurely only to require another patch to fix the former one.

I remember one instance working with a now defunct gaming company where test patches were being sent out every day to the patch testers. It nearly drove me crazy...or should I say crazier. I finally just decided to download the test patches once a week and work with them.

I'm sure SP-Camo (and you!) do not want one patch, then another patch, then another.

It will come, just like the game came. I reiterate, keep playing the game. Enjoy it. When the patch does come, enjoy it and the changes it will make hopefully for the better.

There are lots of scenarios and some nice campaigns to keep us occupied in the meantime.

Wild Bill


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