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Suicide Junkie April 24th, 2001 03:09 PM

Re: Strategic Help required!
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Aren't you getting any help from your mines? I usually see the AI send in minesweepers and combat ships to the same spot in the same turn but rarely in the same group? Maybe you will get lucky and a mine or two will take down some shields/crew quarters<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Hehe http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif Mines don't usually cripple a ship when you've got 500 mines per sector http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif
I just get a message every two turns "9 Phong ships have been destroyed"
The enemy minesweepers will kill 105 mines each when they actually arrive.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>have you tried using LC's for capture instead of ES/FG'? Put shields on them and with the extra capture units you might not need as many as with es/fg's<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
The reason I need so many ES/FGs is cause the enemy DN has a terribly strong shield, and my accuracy at range 1 is 50%. I need that many ships just to carry DUCs so I can breach his shielding and try to kill the Self-destruct before the combat ends.
The reason why I dont plan to use LC's in that role is cause I don't have many (see first post) but I've got lots of ES/FGs sitting around from the beginning of the game. (And I don't have funds to scrap and rebuild - 102% of my minerals go to maint & mine building)

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>BTW are you fighting tactical or strategic? If you are fighting strategic, have you tried setting your tachyon ships to "point blank range"?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Tactical all the way. I just love flying my ships around and changing tactics & trying to cover a crippled ship's retreat & stuff http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Nitram Draw April 24th, 2001 03:31 PM

Re: Strategic Help required!
 
Do they always send 9 ships through? If so you could adjust the amount of mines so that maybe 1 or 2 will be crippled enough for you to easily capture. Don't try to kill them all http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif
In my current game I've gotten quite a few Cue Cappa BB's with Alligience Converters this way. The mines took out their engines and shields, all their weapons remained intact for some reason. I just went in and captured them, cost me a few small capture ships in closing but I now have a small Psychic battlegroup without the ability.

Suicide Junkie April 24th, 2001 03:43 PM

Re: Strategic Help required!
 
Problem is, they come at me so often that I'm having trouble holding the minefields up right now. When the fifth minesweeper comes through, I'll be finished.

I can't take the risk of detting my minefields...
Oh, but I could make a new minefield just in front of my existing ones to cripple somebody. I like it!

Hey, I was just looking at the scores, and the top 4 players have 100k score, while the bottom three (living) players all have 10k-20k score. The rich empires are all infighting for more territory, while me and the little guys just try to hold on to what we've got. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif


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Nitram Draw April 24th, 2001 04:05 PM

Re: Strategic Help required!
 
If you could figure out where they would go once they got through the WP you could leave a trail of mines in their path. You might have crippled DN's all over the place http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

Suicide Junkie April 24th, 2001 05:21 PM

Re: Strategic Help required!
 
The WP mines are pretty much my Last line of defence http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif I do have a few mines ni orbit of each planet, but they won't Last long. My ships are helpless right now.
Once I get the talisman, and my fleets get trained up to 20% (modded to be 1% per turn), then I might be able to dodge the occasional shot, while staying at range http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

I've set 2 mines (1200 damage total) just outside where the phong like to come in. Hopefully it won't attract a minesweeper, but I should be able to cripple some ships now. As long as they don't send a fleet over 3 ships in size, I should be able to handle the uncrippled ship with my fleet. (consisting of my entire military force except the training ESs) http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

Do you ever use a single escort in a fleet stationed over a training facil?
I've got 5 ES in their own "Training Fleet X", and then I can switch them with warships. I get a trained fleet of warships instantly & my ES starts a new fleet to train http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

Nitram Draw April 24th, 2001 06:10 PM

Re: Strategic Help required!
 
I train fleets that way a lot, build my fleet training the same place and the shipyard and begin training immediately. If you have 5 ships why not create 5 fleets and get them all up to max. Then you don't have to wait as long.
Also havuig minefields all over the place may cause his minesweepers to not be as effective or allow them to be exposed to attack. They may be chasing non existant fields.

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Suicide Junkie April 24th, 2001 06:26 PM

Re: Strategic Help required!
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>If you have 5 ships why not create 5 fleets and get them all up to max. Then you don't have to wait as long.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I though I just said that???

I have "training fleet A" through "training fleet E", in orbit of "Starfleet Academy"

Nitram Draw April 24th, 2001 06:44 PM

Re: Strategic Help required!
 
Misunderstood, thought you meant you had 5 ships in one fleet. Sorry

Suicide Junkie April 24th, 2001 07:21 PM

Re: Strategic Help required!
 
NP

mac5732 April 24th, 2001 08:55 PM

Re: Strategic Help required!
 
what does he have in the systems touching yours? Colony wise?. Could you sneak a clocked ship or small fleet in and trash his planets or refueling depots in that system. I know you said you have 2 empty ones but what about where he keeps cming thru. Anyway you could mine both sides of wormholes. This way he could get some thru the one side and hopefully some would be damaged where you could capture them on the other side. In either case, he would have to stop for the fields before he entered into your system giving you warning or chance to attack him at the wormhole or build BS on wormholes to back up mines. Can you increase your production in anyway?

just some ideas mac


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