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StarShadow September 16th, 2006 09:38 PM

Re: SE V demo Interface
 
In my opinion the UI needs an overhaul, so many things are either completely unintuitive, or takes more 'work' to do. Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but retro-fitting seems to be a prime example. It seems to be impossible to retrofit multiple ships at the same time, also.

Suicide Junkie September 16th, 2006 10:16 PM

Re: SE V demo Interface
 
It is definitely not just you.

Santiago September 16th, 2006 11:11 PM

Re: SE V demo Interface
 
I agree it needs an early overhaul already.

If looking at the entire system- you can barely see ships.

Way too much clicking everywhere.

The windows at the bottom seem to be taking up too much screen real estate.

Being able to lock the rotate and zoom with the mouse would be most helpful and also it does not seem to be much of a zoom as it is moving in and out.

Atrocities September 17th, 2006 12:38 AM

Re: SE V demo Interface
 
You won't find one person amoung the "group" that will disagree with you regarding UI issues. The focus has been on bug fixes and getting the features to work, and balance, not UI improvments. However now that the Demo is out and the Fan feed back is coming in, perhaps the focus will now be shifted a bit toward improving the UI and its functionality.

AMF September 17th, 2006 02:33 AM

Re: SE V demo Interface
 
Having had an entire night and much of today at work to think about the game, I have come to a painful conclusion:

There are a lot of little problems. Most of them I could probably power through and just be constantly annoyed by. There are, however, two overwhelming problems that I can't get past:

1) The main window UI needs to be fixed.
2) The ship design UI needs to be fixed.

I can go into detail on what I mean, if needed. But until these UI issues are fixed, the game is, to me, not viable and I WILL NOT be buying it.

If those things are fixed, then I'll buy the game immediately (and then, being an annoyingly critical S0B, I'll press for all the other problems to be fixed...)

I really can't see playing it with the UI as is.

Thanks,

AMF

Mephisto September 17th, 2006 09:13 AM

Re: SE V demo Interface
 
AMF, I think it is save to say that us beta testers are not surprised by this conclusion. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/fear.gif

Gandalf Parker September 17th, 2006 11:19 AM

Re: SE V demo Interface
 
Im just generally unhappy. Im forcing myself to continue playing the SEV demo to try and give it a fair chance but I feel pulled back to my SEIV game. So far Im really wanting an SE 4.5 with 4's graphics and some of 5's features.

StarShadow September 17th, 2006 11:45 AM

Re: SE V demo Interface
 
As much as I really, really like some of the new stuff in SEV, like the much improved diplomacy, there are just too many other problems that really ruin it for me. All in all, this demo certainly does not present the game in a good light. Which is to be expected when the beta testers are ignored. Unless the full version fixes a lot of the issues presented (and we get a patched demo to prove it), I just don't see me wasting my money on another Moo3..

Artaud September 17th, 2006 12:10 PM

Re: SE V demo Interface
 
Quote:

Gandalf Parker said:
Im just generally unhappy. Im forcing myself to continue playing the SEV demo to try and give it a fair chance but I feel pulled back to my SEIV game. So far Im really wanting an SE 4.5 with 4's graphics and some of 5's features.

I'm sorry to say that I feel the same way you do. I spent a lot of time with the SEV demo on Friday night, and also played it for most of Saturday. I wanted to post what you and some others have posted late last night, but held off because I wondered if maybe it's "just me." I can see that it isn't.

I won't be buying SEV. The many issues with the UI just kill the game for me.

Ragnarok-X September 17th, 2006 12:24 PM

Re: SE V demo Interface
 
Unfortunally i agree with the two of us. Im very sorry to hear myself saying that since i was expecting so much from SEV. I remember months ago when we had rumours in the boards that the game is bugged etc. The testers said something like "the game is enjoyable etc". At this point, im not enjoying it.


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