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Artaud said:

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Barnacle Bill said:
I think the "fog of war" on the system map is a great improvement to the operational level, and if the system size really can be modded to be significantly larger then there is a potential for a real search phase of naval battles (with an important role for fast cheap recon units, etc..).

I like the "fog of war" as well, but I think it will make SE a smaller, slower game. You'll spend more time exploring each and every individual system, and/or researching sensors, and less time expanding.

I like building ships and doing long-range exploring, not hitting the turn-finished button over and over until I research decent sensors, or sending a ship to explore every hex of a system just in case an optimal planet is there.

I think some have said you can turn off the fog of war feature by modding. It should be an option when you start the game, as is the case with most computer games I've seen that have FOW.

And bigger systems--no, I don't want this. The way it is now, when you zoom out to see the entire system, the planets look horrible and your ships look like ants, when you can see them at all.

I know it's not "realistic" to have ships that appear to be half the size of planets, but this is a game, after all. What's the point of building a navy if you can't watch your ships pass through the system?

Ultimately, it's Aaron's game, and his decision about what direction he wants to take it, so I wish him luck.

I'm still "wait and see" about SEV, but from what I've seen so far maybe this new direction for the SE franchise is not for me.

I like the fog of war
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Gandalf Parker said:
I also wonder if the 3D thing might not slow down the creation of new races which is one of the things I loved about SEIV was having something like 300 races in it.

I don't; SE4 had a rather slow buildup of ship sets... It wasn't until just a few years ago when shipset count got so high (around/after Gold). The starting community of SE5 is larger than it was for SE4, so there are bound to be more graphics people around with SE5 early days than SE4. A fair majority of original (not screen captures of SW ships or whatever) SE4 shipset authors used normal 3d apps to make their sets, not Doga. Thing is, most of them only made a few sets, so they tend to be overwhelmed in the volume of work by, say, Atrocities, who only used Doga.

Artaud said:
It should be an option when you start the game...

It is there, in the Game Options tab.

Least favorite feature has to be the tech levels. Fairly annoying that its pretty much never ending. Nice to have a top level to reach

There is a top level for all the techs, in most cases it seems to be level 100.

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LordAxel said:
Least favorite feature has to be the tech levels. Fairly annoying that its pretty much never ending. Nice to have a top level to reach

If only there was a mod that addressed this issue... hmm. Yeah, it turns out "infinite" tech is not nearly as cool as people think. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

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Gandalf Parker said:

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PDF said:

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Gandalf Parker said:
Except that Ive already bought the game (but would rather not vote that way). And there is also not one for "I think SEV went the wrong direction completely".

I was wondering if it was too soon to poll the question of whether they should be an SEV forum.

Which "wrong direction" ? SE5 is 90% SE4 concept- and gameplay-wise, do you refer to the new move to 3D ?
Although I'm not happy with the UI I still find the new graphics much better than SE4s, which looked like a spreadsheet more than a game at (numerous) times ... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/yawn.gif

And the SE5 forum is here isn't it ? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

I would rather have seen an improved SEIV game (AI, UI, modding, etc) rather than an eye-candy bloated SEV game. Thats just my opinion but I feel that the scren is full of pretty pictures which slow down the game and make it harder to play at a decent speed. I also wonder if the 3D thing might not slow down the creation of new races which is one of the things I loved about SEIV was having something like 300 races in it. And giant maps (als0 modded in later by players). The SEIV out-of-the-box was a very tiney game, almost a demo itself, compared to what the player mods turned it into.

As for the forums, thats exactly my point. I would rather that the SEIV forums NOT become the SEV forum since Im beginning to doubt whether SEIV will die off now.

And I think Shrapnel would support the creation of such a forum. The fact that this forum has traffic is not really a selling point. The load and archiving of this forum is something that just makes me more appreciative that Shrapnel keeps these things running for its ex-products.

Just a quick couple of comments-

A) I'm thinking <font color="blue">GP</font> may be onto to something here, since it seems that the lean here is towards SEV, shouldn't there be a place to discuss just SEIV if you haven't thrown in the towel on it or put it aside in favor of SEV?

B) Again, an example here of leaning against anyone not completely in favor of SEV. <font color="blue">GP</font>'s opinion is that SEV went the wrong way for his likes. HIS opinion, and as valid as anyone else's. And he's promptly corrected.

C) I disagree (just my opinion !!!) that "Gameplay-wise" the new SEV is "90%" the same as SEIV. Seems to me that nearly everything from ship design to actual on-screen game play is different. The concepts may be the same, but the actual gameplay is far different.

I think you are making a mountain out of a molehill... I do honestly think the 3d shipset thing is being blown out of proportion by some people. It isn't that big of a change for most shipset authors. It has absolutely nothing to do with "leaning on anyone not completely in favor of SE5"... In fact, if you review more of my recent postings, you will see numerous complaints. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Seriously though, if you want forums that will always be devoted to SE4, you could always use SEnet:

http://www.spaceempires.net/home/forum-c3.html
http://www.spaceempires.net/home/forum-30.html

Maybe it wasn't your intention, but that sounds a lot like 'if you don't like it you can go somewhere else', which isn't exactly a friendly thing to say.

actualy no starshadow, that was an slightly subtle plug.
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