Re: Vampires?
 

There was a lot of discussion about it. Here's some of it:

http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/thr...&Forum=f74,f82,f127&Words=cheating&Searchpage=0& Limit=100&Main=285610&Search=true&wher e=bodysub&Name=&daterange=1&newerval=5 &newertype=y&olderval=2&oldertype=y&am p;bodyprev=#Post285751

-Frank

Re: Vampires?
 

Dom II VQ was the premier chassis for pretender. Especially if you don't use CB. You get tons of free points with sloth 3, death: 3, misfortune 2. Counting the necessary Order 3, Magic: 3, that gives you 580 points, 150 less for the VQ. If you can't buff dominion and paths high enough for your VQ with 430 free points, I have no idea what you're doing with her then. That said, it is still safe to say that VQ is excessively nerfed in Dom III, but to say she was a consolation prize for Lord of the Wild is just misinformation.

Re: Vampires?
 

Just remove Immortality and add Ethereal and Recuperation for all vampires. Problem solved. No more cheap tactics.

Re: Vampires?
 

So, basically, she'd be a Ghost King with Blood Magic?

Re: Vampires?
 

Ghost king doesn't have recuperation or immortality to heal from afflictions in Dom3

Re: Vampires?
 

The queen isnt the problem. The vampires are. Its like throwing the baby with the bath water.
You have got to have ethereality to simulate immunity to normal weapon, and recuperation to simulate their self healing ability. Otherwise its not a vampire. Add 1000-3000 max age and why do you need immortality for? Immortality is thematically correct for high power vampires(like vampire lords).
Its a very simple mod in any case.

Re: Vampires?
 

But then the only real difference would be recuperation. I said basically like a Ghost King...

At any rate, I think the VQ is about as thematically sound as it gets, considering this game's world seems [b]heavilly[/i] based off the D&D campaign settings. Going by the sourcebooks there, Vampires are really resistant to normal weapons because of their regeneration ability, and flee in Gaseous Form if 'killed' by normal means. So regeneration and immortality seem just about right.

>_> And why are we talking about nerfing her even further?