Re: SE5 bad reviews and problems.
 

agreed.

Re: SE5 bad reviews and problems.
 

"What you describe is spyware; software that logs users online behavior &c."

Um, I didn't say it logs user's online behaviour. I said it *doesn't* do that. It simply sends your IP address one time when you first start the game, which is destroyed immediately.

The in-game ads is a different issue altogether, but I just wanted to make clear that this is neither adware nor spyware, especially as they are upfront with it in the first place with the leaflet inside the game box.

Re: SE5 bad reviews and problems.
 

The last thing I want to see when I am playing a game is an adverstisement for SHRAPNEL GAMES, popping up on some build board in the game. (No offense Shrap, but your site is like the only site I regularly visit so... it would be the site that might pop up.)

They are doing this because it is what google and now AOL do with email and web searches. YOu get an email message from someone asking you about say the Star Trek Mod and on the side I get all these advertisement about Star Trek.. WTF! If I want to search for something like that I will do it on my own. I hate the fact that my email, and now my games, are being data mined in order to force feed me advertisment. If that is the way things are going, kinda like paid tv has gone, then I WANT TO BE PAID to play!

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Note:
Just because they admit it is adware dosen't make it not adware.

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"No offense Shrap, but your site is like the only site I regularly visit so... it would be the site that might pop up."

It's like I'm talking to a wall. I said it *doesn't* log the sites you visit. How many times can I say the same thing over and over again http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

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Do you have verifiable source of evidence, or is that an anti-rumor rumor?

Even if it doesn't track sites you visit, it is still a despicable practice (ad banners in products you explicitly paid for).

Re: SE5 bad reviews and problems.
 

LOL, I like the "Play on Words."

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Tracking sites you visit has no bearing on whether it is adware or not. It is the simple fact of having Ads built in.

Ads + software = Adware

Re: SE5 bad reviews and problems.
 

"Do you have verifiable source of evidence, or is that an anti-rumor rumor?"

Like I said, I work at EA so I did my own little investigation when the game was released. I didn't want to be associated with a company that installs adware or spyware. There are also articles on Gamespot and IGN that distill the incorrect rumour as just that, a rumour.

"Even if it doesn't track sites you visit, it is still a despicable practice (ad banners in products you explicitly paid for)."

Actually it's not. Think about it. World of Warcraft charges you what, $10 a month? The Battlefield franchise charges you a one-time fee of $50, in which you can play *forever* without another cost. EA has to pay to keep their servers on, and given there is almost 100,000 players logging on every DAY, you can imagine that this gets expensive.

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Sorry for the double post:

"On the 2142 note how can it make relevant in-game ads without tracking what you are doing on the internet. If it doesn't do that then it must just generate generic ads for everyone, if so then why does it need to do anything outside of run the game?

Exactly it does moniter what you are doing."

It bases the ads on your country based on your IP. It doesn't give you ads based on your interests. I don't even know why I'm defending the game, as I don't even like online FPS' http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif