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LoloMo April 9th, 2007 09:33 AM

Re: Site Searching Strategy
 
Is there any chance for Capitals to have magic sites other than those you start with? In other words, do you search your capital for magic sites?

Meglobob April 9th, 2007 10:32 AM

Re: Site Searching Strategy
 
Quote:

LoloMo said:
Is there any chance for Capitals to have magic sites other than those you start with? In other words, do you search your capital for magic sites?

No and no.

But they can get a site via a random event.

Jarl May 18th, 2008 01:49 PM

Re: Site Searching Strategy
 
Can someone please make a suggestions for a new algorithm - that make a better default target for a site search spell? Then we can hope that Johan will implement it and include it in the next fix...

Make it prefer areas that:
- is'nt close to enemy borders (if possible)
- has'nt got any located sites yet
- start with terrain that will favor your capitals mages
- has been searched by other magic types, but not located any sites yet
- etc.

A better algorithm would save a lot of boring checking time, especially on large maps...

archaeolept September 29th, 2008 02:36 PM

Re: Site Searching Strategy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ballbarian (Post 502746)
Border mountain provinces count as mountains.

I'm quite sure this is incorrect; they are just plains, as to site frequency, and I believe as to allowable sites... ie. a site that could only occur in a mountain province could not occur in a border mountain province. I am not sure about the latter, though.

Edi October 1st, 2008 07:35 AM

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I think they count as mountains in terms of allowable sites. No idea if they have the same site frequency as mountains. They count as plains for movement.

archaeolept October 1st, 2008 10:15 AM

Re: Site Searching Strategy
 
border mountains, or "edgemount," is its own terrain type. If mountain allowable sites can occur there, the database should be updated with at least an annotation.

I still suspect edgemounts count as plains, though.

Lingchih October 2nd, 2008 01:42 AM

Re: Site Searching Strategy
 
Dunno. I find a lot of Earth sites in border mountains.

Crevan October 2nd, 2008 09:32 AM

Re: Site Searching Strategy
 
If province has "Mountain" mark in description - it`s mountain, sure :) If there`s mountains on map, but no "mountain" terrain type in description - you may surprise, but it`s...right, it`s NO mountain :D
Also I always check first - with any type of easy scan, which is possible to my mages (e.g. Auspex, Gnom Lore etc.), and then (late, with good gem income, which I can trade to pearls) scan with Acashic Record. Some rare and powerful locations possible to detect only with ARec - and just one site with recruitable Trolls, Crystal Castle, Loremasters or powerful magic bonus can change balance to your side in no time

thejeff October 2nd, 2008 09:47 AM

Re: Site Searching Strategy
 
There aren't be any sites only possible to detect with Akashic record.
There may be sites your nation doesn't have the paths to find without using it, but that's different.

Crevan October 2nd, 2008 10:05 AM

Re: Site Searching Strategy
 
So what I must do if my nation cannot detect those sites, or my mages have limited skills, or skilled in just 2-3 paths of magic? Strategy of searching "Cheap scan in early game > ARec in mid-game" is quite easy and effective
First you get just 2-3 types of gems, but you can use them right now. Late - with ARec you receive different types, so you can improve your own mages or hire neutral specialists (for me - now Marignon longplay MP - it`s Jade Sorceress/Enchantress for Nature and Water paths, Necromancers for Death and I`m lucky to find Silver Order so I can use Astral and Air magic)


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