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WingedDog January 8th, 2009 08:42 PM

Re: What do you like to do when you're not dead yet?
 
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Originally Posted by vfb (Post 665234)
Maybe it was the way WingedDog phrased it. Or maybe I don't understand what you mean by "second part"? Here's how Sheap put it:

Tip 2: Code of in-game conduct.
1) Don't make any agreements prior to the start of the game.
2) Don't bring alliances or enemies from one game into the next.
3) Don't trade things in one game for things in another game, or use position in one game as leverage to bargain in another one.
...

I perfectly agree with everything Sheap said, and think he's post rally needs to be sticked.

Executor January 8th, 2009 08:43 PM

Re: What do you like to do when you're not dead yet?
 
I'm saying, if you've made good friend and allies in one game, it's more likely you'll befriend them in another also. Therefor there will be better diplomacy. You can say whatever you like, but that's how it works, at least from my experience.
I'm not saying you'll be in league with them from the start, but less likely to attack each others. But if it does happen, hey what the hell, it's only a game.
I sometimes make deals with some players, the first one to go down gives everything he has to the other.

EDIT: WingedDog, if someone screwed me over several times, you bet your ars I'll keep an eye on him. That doesn't mean I'll attack him in all other games of course. If that were the cast I'd never win a game. It means just what it says, I'll keep a watch on him, and prepare myself.

vfb January 8th, 2009 09:27 PM

Re: What do you like to do when you're not dead yet?
 
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Originally Posted by Executor (Post 665239)
I'm saying, if you've made good friend and allies in one game, it's more likely you'll befriend them in another also. Therefor there will be better diplomacy. You can say whatever you like, but that's how it works, at least from my experience.

Yeah, I admit that I remember how people played in previous games, and it'll have some influence on my actions towards them. Unless the previous game was a explicit "anything goes and your actions or betrayals do not count towards future games" game: in this case, even if horrible betrayed and backstabbed I would not expect the same in a normal game.

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I'm not saying you'll be in league with them from the start, but less likely to attack each others. But if it does happen, hey what the hell, it's only a game.
Or more likely, depending on the situation. :)

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I sometimes make deals with some players, the first one to go down gives everything he has to the other.
I only think this is okay as an agreement between nations that have become allied during the course of the game. Not okay if it's an agreement prior to the game starting.


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EDIT: WingedDog, if someone screwed me over several times, you bet your ars I'll keep an eye on him. That doesn't mean I'll attack him in all other games of course. If that were the cast I'd never win a game. It means just what it says, I'll keep a watch on him, and prepare myself.
This is completely reasonable.

vfb January 8th, 2009 09:28 PM

Re: What do you like to do when you're not dead yet?
 
Thanks for fixing the quotes Gandalf! Sorry for the angry-face icon. :)

thejeff January 8th, 2009 10:27 PM

Re: What do you like to do when you're not dead yet?
 
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Originally Posted by Gandalf Parker (Post 665197)
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Originally Posted by JimMorrison (Post 665176)
I suppose due to the wording, there is the slight chance that a stealthy pretender could survive beyond this exact point, as long as they were physically alive - but other than the Lord of Night (sic?), are there any others?

I was using Lord of the Wild which is one of my favorites.
Ghost King, Vampire Queen, Master Druid are all standard to all nations I think.

I just ran a quick test game with Helheim, taking no provinces and letting the AI take my capital, while sneaking all my commanders and troops off into his lands.

As soon as I lost the capital, it was game over.

As far as I can tell, you need to hold one province at all times.

Sombre January 9th, 2009 07:18 AM

Re: What do you like to do when you're not dead yet?
 
Yeah I figured Gandalf was wrong. He must have had a province somewhere.

Juffos January 9th, 2009 07:53 AM

Re: What do you like to do when you're not dead yet?
 
I like to go away with a boom. That means utterdark, burden of time, foul of air, armageddon, astral corruption and such nicey things that stir the game up a bit. The death throes of a dying god.

Wokeye January 9th, 2009 07:59 AM

Re: What do you like to do when you're not dead yet?
 
I'll tend to fight on while trying new things plus helping any allies as much as possible.

I think MP Dom3 teaches you how to lose - well, at least they've taught me how to. :) Reminds me of the Dwarf Fortress 'Losing is fun' motto.

Zeldor January 9th, 2009 11:11 AM

Re: What do you like to do when you're not dead yet?
 
I totally agree with doncorazon. I have no problem with losing wars, but enemy should prove that he deserves it. I prefer VP games, with VPs at caps, and taking caps can be really really tough job [I still remember that battle in Alexandria :)], especially with nice spells researched. Recently I got a sub position for a nation and got into 1:3 war, situation was very good, pretty much lose and go AI after few turns, but as I didn't want to give any free lands I decided to try and fight. After over 10 turns one enemy signed peace and remaining 2 cannot make decisive blows.

lch January 9th, 2009 11:36 AM

Re: What do you like to do when you're not dead yet?
 
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Originally Posted by vfb (Post 665212)
There's the excellent Sheap's rules post, but it never got stickied:

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=32050

It always was in the Strategy Index sticky, though.


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