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MaxWilson January 14th, 2009 06:18 PM

Re: Searching for Blood Sites is superfluous !!
 
I happen to agree with Sombre, not because I mind site-searching but because horror marks are incredibly weak (which is why the B9 bless is awful). If your mages at some fort have a 5% chance each turn of getting +1% chance per turn of a horror attack (likely to result in a horror attack in about 70 turns), you may lose a couple of mages over the next 40 turns (gcost: 500 or so), which isn't enough to bother relocating a fort for. I made those 5%/1% numbers up but IME they're ballpark-accurate; horror marks are more frightening than deadly unless they're STRONG or you like to cast Call Horror in battle. Of course if you lose a PRETENDER (as opposed to research mages) to Horror Marks that's a different level of pain.

-Max

Ironhawk January 14th, 2009 07:18 PM

Re: Searching for Blood Sites is superfluous !!
 
< is quoting broken? I couldnt get it to work right... >

I'm with Sombre on this one too. I remember reading that line about OCD and Horror Marks and laughing and agreeing completely. A minor horror mark on a single unit is practically beneath notice. To worry about it would be like tracking each affliction that a soldier picked up in detail.

vfb January 14th, 2009 07:50 PM

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You don't track your soldier's afflictions in detail?! :shock:

You must separate the cripples out into their own squads, to prevent your lines from being messed up. That's two squads, one for cripples, one for limpers. Mutes, Chest Wound, Weakened and NHWs can be ignored and mixed in with the rest of your troops. Lost an Arm is usually okay unless it's the very first unit in an archer squad. Diseased goes straight to the front lines, as do Blind archers. If your overall morale is weak, then Battle Fright units need to be weeded out, especially for tramplers.

Who thinks it's wrong 'cos I'm splittin' and co-hittin' at. Well if you do, that's OCD and you're not down with it.

Sombre January 14th, 2009 08:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by VedalkenBear (Post 666897)
Sombre, while your own feelings on the matter of site-searching is made quite manifest in your thread, comments like 'only OCD people' care about certain things do not promote discussion. I certainly care about finding such sites, and I don't have OCD. In fact, most people would be insulted by the comparison.

Do I play multiplayer? No, but I don't think that's grounds for automatic dismissal of my comments.

What are you on about? I haven't made a thread about site searching so I don't know what you're referring to there. In this thread I didn't connect OCD and site searching at all. I said only OCD people would care about the odd random weak horror mark so much they'd make out the offchance of accidentally building a fort in a province which had a horror marking site in it to be a huge deal.

And what does whether you play MP or not have to do with anything?

Are you another one of Gandalf's secret accounts? You make about as much sense.

JimMorrison January 14th, 2009 08:10 PM

Re: Searching for Blood Sites is superfluous !!
 
Well, Gandalf DID thank him.....! Dun dun DUN!!!


You down with OCD? Yeah you know me!

<3

Sombre January 14th, 2009 08:11 PM

Re: Searching for Blood Sites is superfluous !!
 
-crip walk-

O to the C to the D to the awg!

Tifone January 15th, 2009 11:49 AM

Re: Searching for Blood Sites is superfluous !!
 
On the topic of Horror Marks... do the power of the Horror Mark spell depend on the S level of the caster? Can't find this anywhere. I've tested an Horror Marking communion and after some horror mark spells by a caster brought to S5/6 the enemy pretender was assassinated by the HoH the next turn, still I don't know if there's a correlation.

Ironhawk January 15th, 2009 01:42 PM

Re: Searching for Blood Sites is superfluous !!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vfb (Post 667080)
You don't track your soldier's afflictions in detail?! :shock:

You must separate the cripples out into their own squads, to prevent your lines from being messed up. That's two squads, one for cripples, one for limpers. Mutes, Chest Wound, Weakened and NHWs can be ignored and mixed in with the rest of your troops. Lost an Arm is usually okay unless it's the very first unit in an archer squad. Diseased goes straight to the front lines, as do Blind archers. If your overall morale is weak, then Battle Fright units need to be weeded out, especially for tramplers.

Who thinks it's wrong 'cos I'm splittin' and co-hittin' at. Well if you do, that's OCD and you're not down with it.

Hahah, nice vfb. That is some serious OCD action :) But yeah I dont pay any attention to soldiers wounds. When I need archer-decoys I do select from the injured first, but other than that I dont pay any attention to the rank and file.

Gandalf Parker January 15th, 2009 02:20 PM

Re: Searching for Blood Sites is superfluous !!
 
Really? Doesnt limping affect the speed they reach the enemy? Doesnt losing an arm or eyes affect archers and make them charge instead of fire? Not too mention too many with morale afflictions. Not checking my injuries once in awhile would seem to affect my formations effectiveness. MicroManagement maybe but as far as OCD?

Sombre January 15th, 2009 02:35 PM

Re: Searching for Blood Sites is superfluous !!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gandalf Parker (Post 667308)
Really? Doesnt limping affect the speed they reach the enemy?

On chaff, who cares? If there are too many of them behaving that way you can always just remove them. That's not the same thing as obsessively checking afflictions.

Quote:

Doesnt losing an arm or eyes affect archers and make them charge instead of fire?
Very, very, very rarely. It seems it has to be the very first archer in the unit. I've never seen it happen.


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