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Gregstrom February 4th, 2009 04:36 PM

Re: 3 bogarus questions
 
If Lady Midday was D/S to cast, that might work nicely. The paths may not be as appropriate as A/D, but it makes it a lot more accessible.

Wrana February 4th, 2009 06:08 PM

Re: 3 bogarus questions
 
Yes, or Air without Death.
To Chrispetersen: I'd say that summoning commanders would be too strong. Or did you mean commander birds to be able to summon Firebirds/Ladies? This, while making not great sense thematically, could be workable. (I'll look up Doves' Book in a few days - it may provide some information on these creatures).

chrispedersen February 4th, 2009 07:11 PM

Re: 3 bogarus questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wrana (Post 672244)
Yes, or Air without Death.
To Chrispetersen: I'd say that summoning commanders would be too strong. Or did you mean commander birds to be able to summon Firebirds/Ladies? This, while making not great sense thematically, could be workable. (I'll look up Doves' Book in a few days - it may provide some information on these creatures).

Commander birds summon firebirds/ladies. or similiar.

What would truly be great, would be if you could assign orders to commanders.
So instead of a single 'summon allies' you could have

Summon Firebird
Summon Ladies
Summon Rualka

Giving the Summoning unit options to summon creatures more appropriate to the need at hand, and hence greater value.

Hmmmm but changing the national spells so that they would be castable by the national unit, at no gem cost might work also.

Aezeal February 4th, 2009 09:58 PM

Re: 3 bogarus questions
 
welll that is not entirely impossible. actually for the makemonster command (which is what you are referring to since you are talking about orders) I think it can actually be done already. One thing though you can't summon the same amount of different creatures.

#makemonster1
#makemonster2
#makemonster3
....5

at least that is what I thought is was

Domsummons also come in 3 flavours. and regular (free, no command needed) summons atleast in 1 and 5.. maybe those in between too.

Aezeal February 4th, 2009 10:00 PM

Re: 3 bogarus questions
 
Not having played bogarus I've got a question.. is it based on same mythologie as "The Witcher" (which is a great game, need to post that in that rpg thread) the creatures seems familiar to me.

Festin February 4th, 2009 10:40 PM

Re: 3 bogarus questions
 
Bogarus is based primarily on Russian folklore. "Bogarus" is a somewhat inaccurate translation of "God's Rus". "The Witcher" is based on novels by Polish writer Andrzej Sapkowski, so the mythology is different, but there may be a common East European feel here and there.

chrispedersen February 4th, 2009 10:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Aezeal (Post 672295)
welll that is not entirely impossible. actually for the makemonster command (which is what you are referring to since you are talking about orders) I think it can actually be done already. One thing though you can't summon the same amount of different creatures.

#makemonster1
#makemonster2
#makemonster3
....5

at least that is what I thought is was

Domsummons also come in 3 flavours. and regular (free, no command needed) summons atleast in 1 and 5.. maybe those in between too.

Well generically Aezeal, I really like the idea of extending the game engine.

So I would like the ability to add a command to a unit, perhaps which would run a code snippet. Not that I could actually program the code snippet, mind you = ).

But yes, the ability to have a command:
Summon Wolf
Summon Rats
Summon Bats..

For a vampire for example.. would be a useful extension.

lch February 5th, 2009 05:00 AM

Re: 3 bogarus questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chrispedersen (Post 672302)
So I would like the ability to add a command to a unit, perhaps which would run a code snippet. Not that I could actually program the code snippet, mind you = ).

Likely too complex and too much work to make it in a senseful way. Then either Dom3 has to become a totally open game engine, or open source. Not gonna happen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrispedersen (Post 672302)
But yes, the ability to have a command:
Summon Wolf
Summon Rats
Summon Bats..

For a vampire for example.. would be a useful extension.

No, it wouldn't be a useful extension, it would be a singular subjective preference. As you already wrote yourself, this can be emulated well enough by national spells.

Wrana February 5th, 2009 05:25 AM

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To Chrispetersen:
Rusalka is a commander and mage. And as for summon allies - in Bogarus case, at least, we have different commander birds, so they could summon different allies. I would think that castable (by lower mages) spells would be quite enough - these are useful units, it's just that Staretz can be used more effectively.

Kuritza February 5th, 2009 09:12 AM

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There is absolutely no connection between magical birds and all these firebirds etc. So giving birds a freespawn ability would be completely unreasonable.


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