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shilka77 September 21st, 2009 05:51 PM

Re: winspmbt 5.0 ghost wish
 
I found another nation that has been upgrading its armed forces to new standards in 2009 scenarios. Syria has updated its tanks.

T-55/55MV (2150) Modernization Level Of T-64BM Bulat
T-62M/K (1000) Modernization Level Of T-72BM
T-72/72M (1600) Modernization Level Of T-90S
T-80UK (320)

This can be verified at this link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Army

Hope it helps :)

shilka77

shilka77 September 21st, 2009 06:35 PM

Re: winspmbt 5.0 ghost wish
 
A link for the T-64 Bulat Main Battle Tank

http://www.military-today.com/tanks/t64bm_bulat.htm

T-72B(M) T-72B obr.1989g - T-72B equipped with advanced Kontakt-5 explosive reactive armour, composite armour in sides of turret as well. Often called T-72BM or T-72B(M) but this is not correct. NATO code: SMT M1990. This may very well fall under T-72BM "Rogatka" programme hard to tell when it comes to T-72s they come in so many different shapes and colours. Why downgrade their fleet of T72AV to standard BM?

An old link for T-72BM standard

http://fofanov.armor.kiev.ua/

A link for the T-90S Main Battle Tank

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/t90/

A link with for the T-80UK Command Tank

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/t80/

I were to slow 30M had expired to update the message. :eek:

Anyway additional information ;)

Wdll September 22nd, 2009 01:47 AM

Re: winspmbt 5.0 ghost wish
 
Eh, a wiki link where it doesn't even back it up?

Mobhack September 22nd, 2009 04:31 AM

Re: winspmbt 5.0 ghost wish
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shilka77 (Post 711477)
A link for the T-64 Bulat Main Battle Tank

http://www.military-today.com/tanks/t64bm_bulat.htm

T-72B(M) T-72B obr.1989g - T-72B equipped with advanced Kontakt-5 explosive reactive armour, composite armour in sides of turret as well. Often called T-72BM or T-72B(M) but this is not correct. NATO code: SMT M1990. This may very well fall under T-72BM "Rogatka" programme hard to tell when it comes to T-72s they come in so many different shapes and colours. Why downgrade their fleet of T72AV to standard BM?

An old link for T-72BM standard

http://fofanov.armor.kiev.ua/

A link for the T-90S Main Battle Tank

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/t90/

A link with for the T-80UK Command Tank

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/t80/

I were to slow 30M had expired to update the message. :eek:

Anyway additional information ;)

If you have any issues with the OOB data, then please post it in the TO&E forum. After firstly reading the error reporting sticky post in there, of course.


Andy

dacis2 September 23rd, 2009 05:56 AM

Re: winspmbt 5.0 ghost wish
 
Top on my wishlist would be a Singaporean OOB. Indonesia and Malaysia get one, I don't see why we shouldn't.

Marcello September 25th, 2009 11:02 AM

Re: winspmbt 5.0 ghost wish
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shilka77 (Post 711471)
I found another nation that has been upgrading its armed forces to new standards in 2009 scenarios. Syria has updated its tanks.

T-55/55MV (2150) Modernization Level Of T-64BM Bulat
T-62M/K (1000) Modernization Level Of T-72BM
T-72/72M (1600) Modernization Level Of T-90S
T-80UK (320)

This can be verified at this link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Army

Hope it helps :)

shilka77

Actually the above article is a perfect example of why wikipedia is the butt of so many jokes. Now, I am not perfectly up to date when it comes to syrian army but rest assured they don't have 320 T-80UK. That's simply more than the total number ever built.
Nor are their T-55/T-72 modernization (I don't know if they even bothered with the T-62s) as effective or widespread as implied.

Marek_Tucan September 29th, 2009 01:22 AM

Re: winspmbt 5.0 ghost wish
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcello (Post 712013)

Actually the above article is a perfect example of why wikipedia is the butt of so many jokes. Now, I am not perfectly up to date when it comes to syrian army but rest assured they don't have 320 T-80UK. That's simply more than the total number ever built.
Nor are their T-55/T-72 modernization (I don't know if they even bothered with the T-62s) as effective or widespread as implied.

Yep, making T-72M1 with TURMS-T variant, light ERA and if you are lucky, few ATGMs an equal to T-90 is a stretch... As is any T-62 modernisation "equal to T-72BM". It simply cannot be done.

Mobhack September 29th, 2009 04:39 AM

Re: winspmbt 5.0 ghost wish
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marek_Tucan (Post 712458)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcello (Post 712013)

Actually the above article is a perfect example of why wikipedia is the butt of so many jokes. Now, I am not perfectly up to date when it comes to syrian army but rest assured they don't have 320 T-80UK. That's simply more than the total number ever built.
Nor are their T-55/T-72 modernization (I don't know if they even bothered with the T-62s) as effective or widespread as implied.

Yep, making T-72M1 with TURMS-T variant, light ERA and if you are lucky, few ATGMs an equal to T-90 is a stretch... As is any T-62 modernisation "equal to T-72BM". It simply cannot be done.

This is drifting off the original topic - if you need to discuss T-72 variants then it would be better to start a new thread in the TO&E section.

Cheers
Andy


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