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Imp May 22nd, 2010 10:58 PM

Re: MBT's
 
I think Pats refering to getting back on topic as in "tanks with a small commentary"

Marcello May 25th, 2010 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Imp (Post 746340)
I think Pats refering to getting back on topic as in "tanks with a small commentary"

Speaking of which the north korean P'okpoong-ho may have been unveiled at last:
http://www.military-today.com/tanks/m2002.htm

It appears to be a somewhat different beast than expected: an incremental improvement of the Ch'onma-Ho series rather than the T-72 derivative suggested by the rumor mill.
I will eventually suggest the OOB changes in the North Korea thread.

FASTBOAT TOUGH June 13th, 2010 02:13 AM

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I was trying to find some info on the Yugoslav ammo question when I came across this from the USA Vehicle Recognition (Threat Armor) as taught in November 1995 to our young Infantry Officers at Fort Benning, GA. You designers etc. might find this information very useful on the "threat" MBTs and APCs up to that point we faced. This is the most complete listing I've come across to this point, it shows all the stats, varients broken down by countries etc. and more. I hope this benefits someone!
http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...534/index.html
Got stuff coming in the next couple of days, take care!
Enjoy the rest of your weekends as I start mine!!
Regards,
Pat
P.S.
John if you read this no harm intended but, it wasn't as it was 60yrs. ago but I'll take the 1-1 tie!?!

Imp June 13th, 2010 08:08 AM

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Course I am reading but brain must be slightly adled what was the following a refrence to?
"John if you read this no harm intended but, it wasn't as it was 60yrs. ago but I'll take the 1-1 tie!?!"

FASTBOAT TOUGH June 13th, 2010 12:55 PM

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John,
Was referring to the first meeting and yesterdays World Cup match results between U.S. vs England.
And since I'm here someone had a 40th birthday this past week any guesses, he's not shy especially when pressed into service!!
Happy Birthday MERKAVA!!:birthday::cheers: So I digress.
Staying on subject, the MERKAVA 4 will replace all other IDF MBTs over the years with Israel's renewed commitment to the program (It was in jeopardy within the last few years.) This next talks about the changes to the MERKAVA 4 with up gunned
120mm main gun, armor package and TROPHY system. These are rolling off the assembly line now with fielded MER 4s to be upgraded over time.
http://www.defense-update.com/featur..._09062010.html and more on the TROPHY System:
http://www.defense-update.com/featur..._09062010.html
Some pics:
Attachment 10207 Attachment 10206 Attachment 10208
Watched the YOUTUBE video and was surprised how compact the TROPHY System is.
Regards,
Pat

Imp June 13th, 2010 09:10 PM

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Was referring to the first meeting and yesterdays World Cup match results between U.S. vs England
Hmmn yes one nation moves forward the other well erm, can you guess which is which ;)

Do think the Merk wins the tank style awards hands down:)

FASTBOAT TOUGH July 14th, 2010 12:03 PM

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Though I've been on T-95 watch as it was to be unveiled later this month, it appears the program is dead. I submit the following it gets a one obituary is this first article about midway down.
http://en.rian.ru/analysis/20100603/159294042.html,
http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs...d-2e8de47fbf49,
http://www.kommersant.ru/doc.aspx?DocsID=1350456 and
http://www.rosprom.org/news3216.html.
Regards,
Pat

Imp July 14th, 2010 12:28 PM

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One wonders what you did in the Navy if you can read cryllic or you use the translator programs of course.

Marcello July 15th, 2010 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH (Post 751830)
Though I've been on T-95 watch as it was to be unveiled later this month, it appears the program is dead. I submit the following it gets a one obituary is this first article about midway down.
http://en.rian.ru/analysis/20100603/159294042.html,
http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs...d-2e8de47fbf49,
http://www.kommersant.ru/doc.aspx?DocsID=1350456 and
http://www.rosprom.org/news3216.html.
Regards,
Pat

I would argue that considered the threats Russia can face the balance of firepower, protection, mobility, logistical footprint and pricetag offered by the late models of T-90 is perfectly adequate to satisfy current and next future russian needs.
About the only issue I can find in the T-90 line is insufficient protection of the ammunition; though I vaguely recall they may have added individual containers for the spare rounds it is still not good enough in my book, yet not enough to warrant switching to a different tank.
The T-95 is really needed only to match/exceed the latest western MBTs, otherwise it is useful for technological development and keeping something boiling on the plate in case something better is actually needed.
But most customers interested in high tech tanks and with the cash to spare either buy western (Saudi, UAE etc.) or, as increasingly is the case, develop their own (India, South Korea).
The T-80 line died in Russia. Nobody was interested in developing the Black Eagle. I can't imagine anybody forking money for the T-95, especially if not even the russian army buys it.

FASTBOAT TOUGH August 2nd, 2010 02:27 PM

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General purpose "cheat" article as already posted on the APC and MRAP threads.
http://www.army-technology.com/features/feature90405/

Regards,
Pat


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