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DRG December 8th, 2013 09:24 AM

Re: spob20 Yugoslavia corrections/suggestions
 
upload the photo

zastava128 December 8th, 2013 10:22 AM

Re: spob20 Yugoslavia corrections/suggestions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DRG (Post 823175)
upload the photo

Ok. There were probably only 3 such vehicles. One can be found here (this is after it was captured and disarmed by the Germans):

http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/valiant...48392?page=348

Unfortunately I don't have their specs. If it helps, they were probably based on some sort of Magirus-Deutz light truck.

Weapon was probably a Breda MG.

DRG December 8th, 2013 10:31 AM

Re: spob20 Yugoslavia corrections/suggestions
 
OK , for want of a better name we're going to call that a M-D AC and it's going to use the same specs and Icon as the Russian FAI but without a radio

DRG December 8th, 2013 06:24 PM

Re: spob20 Yugoslavia corrections/suggestions
 
OK.......... what is not clear in that link is that it is a Bundesarchive photo taken in 1941.

If you go to this link

http://www.histomil.com/viewtopic.ph...3918&start=110

and scroll down the page you will find a larger version of this photo with the Bundesarchive info ( and once you start with this archive you'll be on line for hours... ) so it may be that this AC had been around for awhile ?

Don

zastava128 December 9th, 2013 07:22 AM

Re: spob20 Yugoslavia corrections/suggestions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DRG (Post 823180)
OK.......... what is not clear in that link is that it is a Bundesarchive photo taken in 1941.

If you go to this link

http://www.histomil.com/viewtopic.ph...3918&start=110

and scroll down the page you will find a larger version of this photo with the Bundesarchive info ( and once you start with this archive you'll be on line for hours... ) so it may be that this AC had been around for awhile ?

Don

Well you just might be onto something. That photo was always labelled as mid-1942, Kozara Offensive. I'll have another look through more of the relevant literature when I find the time.

That topic you linked is amazing but yeah 403 pages...

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Edit: one more question: what's the "average" morale rating for partisans/resistance fighters supposed to be? It seems to vary a quite a bit from OOB to OOB - unlike experience, which is almost always 60-65. To illustrate:

French resistance
1942: 65
43-44: 70

Soviet partisans
41: 60
42: 65
43-44: 70

Yugoslav partisans
41-43: 60
44: 65

Italian partisans
43: 58
44: 63
45: 68

Polish AK
41: 70
42-44: 75

Polish AL (communist)
42: 50
43-44: 55

Czech:
41-45: 60

Norwegian
41-45: 65

Bulgarian:
42-44: 65

Greek:
41-43: 70
44-46: 75

DRG December 9th, 2013 07:56 AM

Re: spob20 Yugoslavia corrections/suggestions
 
The answer is..... it varies in the OOB's then the code varies it some more

DRG December 9th, 2013 08:10 AM

Re: spob20 Yugoslavia corrections/suggestions
 
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Originally Posted by zastava128 (Post 823182)

That topic you linked is amazing but yeah 403 pages...

I already had over 500 new photos in SPWW2.......then I found that resource..... ( ! )

The selection of photos I have never seen before is fantastic ( and I have been taking advantage of it...) and it's not just German stuff although that makes up a lot of it


take a look at this for example

http://www.histomil.com/viewtopic.ph...918&start=3700

scroll down to the sixth photo down...............

"Soldiers of the Carpathian Lancers Regiment (2nd 'Warsaw' Armoured Brigade, 2nd Polish Corps) posing by a destroyed German Panther Ausf G tank."

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/attac...4&d=1386591308


look at what's on the roof of the panther. Look close it's actually two plates of spaced armour. That's the first time I have seen that and it appears to be a limited modification

Don


Here's another shot of the same tank ( before it had been looted a bit ) that shows the two plates better. This may have been a field mod but if so it was a sophisticated one

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/attac...1&d=1386603481



Futher digging reveals that in a book titled "Panzer Wreaks" there are "13 pictures of Panthers from 1./Pz.Rgt. 26. Two of these modified vehicles, numbers 424 and 434, have been knocked out in the night of the 15/16 April 1945 near Sesto Imolese, Italy."

So my best guess is this is a Field mod confined to this one unit but still......... never seen this before

FURTHER EDIT

Now I'm tripping over photos of this tank. Here's another one take from a different angle at a different time


http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/attac...1&d=1386632684

zastava128 December 9th, 2013 11:13 AM

Re: spob20 Yugoslavia corrections/suggestions
 
Well now I'll have something to look through over the holidays :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRG (Post 823183)
The answer is..... it varies in the OOB's then the code varies it some more

OK, thanks. I'll post in the appropriate OOB topic if I have any more comments on this.

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Also, if I understand correctly, the AI will be able to take allies in the next version, right? I don't know how exactly that will work, but I can provide some info on Allied troops in Yugoslavia if needed (Soviet, British, pro-allied Bulgarian).

DRG December 9th, 2013 11:31 AM

Re: spob20 Yugoslavia corrections/suggestions
 
The AI's been able to take allies for years. Right now we have enough to do

zastava128 December 18th, 2013 11:23 AM

Re: spob20 Yugoslavia corrections/suggestions
 
One thing I forgot about - since I always play *as* the partisans rather than *against* them - are the rarity radio codes for the armoured vehicles.

So here's just a few suggestions on that:

073 - code 1. There were only a few M3A1 Stuarts. Basically these were rescued from Allied scrapheaps in Italy and repaired.

105 - code 2. Over 90% of the Stuarts delivered by the British were this model.

110 - code 0. There were around 6 of these... but the only other TDs were the captured ones (Hetzer, Semovente, StuG), and those were just as rare as the Stuart funnies.


I've also found a few more photos. Will upload soon.


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