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Wdll September 11th, 2020 03:49 AM

Re: Greece vs Turkey 2020-2021
 
Second part of the second battle is now live.

https://youtu.be/44wYbdRJfsA

Lots of losses early on for both sides. I don't like it.

Wdll September 13th, 2020 09:49 AM

Re: Greece vs Turkey 2020-2021
 
3rd part of the second battle is now live.
More losses for both sides. This isn't going great for me.
More annoying I can't shoot down any planes. If only my air defenses fired at the enemy even once. Perhaps next part.

https://youtu.be/YMqCEAk-5_o

Wdll September 18th, 2020 05:42 AM

Re: Greece vs Turkey 2020-2021
 
Getting hurt. What annoys me the most is that it took this long for my air defense to start firing at the enemy. Better late than never I guess.


Part 4
https://youtu.be/Yq9f-p-Eov0



is up.

Wdll October 6th, 2020 08:14 AM

Re: Greece vs Turkey 2020-2021
 
Getting the upper hand. Pretty sure.

Also, nice to see the air defenses actually firing at the enemy units for once.

Battle 2, Part 5.

https://youtu.be/rU7OaotIeAc

Wdll October 23rd, 2020 03:10 AM

Re: Greece vs Turkey 2020-2021
 
Next part is up.
I don't think we're going to have any problem winning this battle any more.

Battle 2, Part 6.
https://youtu.be/jg-9VYTdmLU

Wdll November 1st, 2020 04:36 AM

Re: Greece vs Turkey 2020-2021
 
I think we will be fine.
https://youtu.be/juSNDPLmTr4

Wdll November 22nd, 2020 06:17 AM

Re: Greece vs Turkey 2020-2021
 
It looks like the Turks have left some nasty surprises for me.
https://youtu.be/4l2GfCKYVTw

Shan December 20th, 2023 07:36 AM

Re: Greece vs Turkey 2020-2021
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mobhack (Post 848401)
I tried a few buys of the Turks to see if Leo2 came up much - and they do not, in fact they are rocking horse poo.

A couple of later upgraded M60 are in the OOB waaay down the list far beneath the leo2 MBT and have the same radio code (90, standard) - so those M60s will be the "bread and butter" buy in the MBT formations since the pick list starts with the template tank and works to the end, making choices as it goes along. It rarely loops round on reaching the end to look at slots before the template.

If you would like to see more leo2 MBT
- change unit #38 radio code to 92 (X2, very common)
- change the radio code for units #616, 617 to 91 (X1, rare)

Now buy a few AI picks of the Turks with a decent amount of points and the Leo2 will show up much more than the rocking horse dung they were before.

Test buy of the AI purchase is as usual:
- set up Turkey P1 V greece P2 in 2020 in the game option menu
- Input test points in the preference screen (say 30000 points)

- Set up test battle with ciomputer buy
- On the deplynent screen, see what the AI purchased for you
- exit
Until a few times to see different AI buys

Also not - You will not see Unit #39 Leopard 2T or #614 Altay as these are class 135 MBT not class 59 MBT and those are only available in a prototype tanks formation.

And if youj never want the AI to buy those last 2 M60 conversions, make the radio code 93 (Human only buy)...

:up: Wow, I just came across this old post by accident - I was totally unaware of the signifigance of the second digit in the radio codes - this is absolutely crucial info for all OOB modding!

DRG December 20th, 2023 10:10 AM

Re: Greece vs Turkey 2020-2021
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shan (Post 855812)
:up: Wow, I just came across this old post by accident - I was totally unaware of the signifigance of the second digit in the radio codes - this is absolutely crucial info for all OOB modding!


Yep.........and it's not just the 0 or 1 or 2 that can affect the picks, the location in the OOB list also has an effect albeit in a more limited way. Sometimes we have had to make things rare when they are further down the list just to keep those from being over picked by the AI even though they might not be "rare" in reality

It cannot be 100% predicted. You have to let the AI pick over and over to see if a pattern emerges then decide if it's worth changing and "tank heavy" or not changes the way the picks are made

It's the randoms that are built into the code to keep things from repeating and those random factors are deliberately everywhere and the pick list is one.

Suhiir December 21st, 2023 05:10 PM

Re: Greece vs Turkey 2020-2021
 
Also very useful to "weigh" the AIs election of say squads.

In the Vietnam era there's not much point in having squad AT weapons near as abundant as they'd be you were in Central Europe.


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